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Great question, wish I had an answer for you. I feel like FIA means that these stats must be available somewhere...

I wonder if they'd tell me if I called and asked? I've got a 3.47 and haven't taken the LSAT yet. Wondering what I need to be competetive at UVA...

If they can't give you specific answers, they should at least be able to tell you where to look for the info. Can't hurt to call!

any luck finding out uva in-state medians?

Geneva wrote:any luck finding out uva in-state medians?

Just sent this email to them:

Greetings,

I am interested in applying to UVA Law for the fall 2013 admissions cycle and am seeking some clarification of your admissions statistics. I see on your website that the overall GPA and LSAT median and 25th/75th percentile range have been made public, but the numbers would seem to be very different for in-state versus out of state applicants. For example, your website states that, for the 2009-2010 application cycle, 678 Virginia residents competed for about 140 seats, which would yield an acceptance rate of approximately 20.6%, which is almost twice as high as the overall acceptance rate (this is not counting offers of admission made to Virginia residents who ultimately decline to matriculate--if there were any such cases this would yield an even higher acceptance rate).

Is it permissible for the GPA and LSAT statistics specifically of in-state applicants who were offered admission to be released? This information would greatly help me as I decide where to apply.

Very Respectfully,

William A Washburn, LT USN


Fingers crossed. In any case, the numbers don't lie: when 678 people compete for 140 spots, they have a decidedly easier time than the 7,204 other people who competed for the 213 other spots.

I'd be willing to bet that the discrepancy is so great that they will be unwilling to release the actual numbers.

You're never going to get them to admit that they accept lower numbers from in-state kids, let alone specific medians.

5ky wrote:You're never going to get them to admit that they accept lower numbers from in-state kids, let alone specific medians.

I'm pretty sure you're right. And the numbers I posted above do kind of speak for themselves.

If you hit the LSAT median with a low gpa, you will be in with money. I don't think they look at in-staters like normal applicants but with an expectation of 2 LSAT points and .2 gpa lower as much as they look at the fact that if someone helps fulfill their instate quota and has one number that helps or maintains, they are basically auto-admit.

Damn that was fast:

Lt. Washburn - Thanks for your email. We do not break out the stats for in-state vs. out-of-state, but the qualifications we're looking for in each pool are the same. As you observe, however, the chances of admission for an in-state applicant are much greater than an out-of-state applicant due to the fact that we aim to reserve roughly a third of our seats for VA Residents.

Jason Dugas
Director of Admissions
University of Virginia School of Law
434-924-6024


He even offered me a fee waiver if I wanted to apply this cycle and gave me the code.

willwash wrote:Damn that was fast:

Lt. Washburn - Thanks for your email. We do not break out the stats for in-state vs. out-of-state, but the qualifications we're looking for in each pool are the same. As you observe, however, the chances of admission for an in-state applicant are much greater than an out-of-state applicant due to the fact that we aim to reserve roughly a third of our seats for VA Residents.

Jason Dugas
Director of Admissions
University of Virginia School of Law
434-924-6024


He even offered me a fee waiver if I wanted to apply this cycle and gave me the code.

Wow, that's awesome. My hat's off to Mr. Dugas.

Nice! Unfortunately, I wonder how that bodes for applicants slightly below both medians...

JamMasterJ wrote:If you hit the LSAT median with a low gpa, you will be in with money. I don't think they look at in-staters like normal applicants but with an expectation of 2 LSAT points and .2 gpa lower as much as they look at the fact that if someone helps fulfill their instate quota and has one number that helps or maintains, they are basically auto-admit.

Is there any empirical data from LSN to support this notion?