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My GPA is horribly low, but there is nothing I can do about it at this point (I finished my undergrad a long time ago). I have done better in the meantime (3.5 GPA for my masters, and I will finish up my doctorate soon with a GPA of 3.85), but we all know that doesn't really matter.

Here are the schools I plan to apply to for this cycle (Note: I plan to retake in October, but for now 161 is the number).

UNC
Wake
Campbell
NCCU
Richmond
New Mexico
Maine
Denver

These are all places I have been and would be willing to live and practice in. I am also considering Illinois schools.

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Look for splitter friendly schools, but even splitter friendly schools might not take a 2.0. You need to get your LSAT to a 170+ to have a chance at attending a law school worth going to. It might just be that law school will never be a worthwhile option for you because of your 2.0. That might suck but it is what it is.

bk187 wrote:http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Look for splitter friendly schools, but even splitter friendly schools might not take a 2.0. You need to get your LSAT to a 170+ to have a chance at attending a law school worth going to. It might just be that law school will never be a worthwhile option for you because of your 2.0. That might suck but it is what it is.

I have already been accepted to one T2 school (in the 80's, not in NC), and I am wondering if that might be as good as it gets. I am waiting to apply for the next cycle (instead of taking the current acceptance) so hopefully I can improve my LSAT in Oct (which I think is completely doable since the only section I have problems with is the LG, and I have been studying the Manhattan guide and doing MUCH better on practices LGs with its help).

lookingtorebound wrote:I have already been accepted to one T2 school, and I am wondering if that might be as good as it gets.

Maybe, maybe not. There are so few 2.0 people applying that it's hard to say. I recall that a 2.2-2.3/17X with good work experience got into NU ED a cycle or two ago.

There is no way you'll get Duke, UNC, or Wake Forest. Even if you get a 175+, Duke and UNC are probably still out, and there's only the slimmest of chances at Wake Forest.

Get a 170+, and look for splitter-friendly schools, like WUSTL, IU-B, Illinois, Minnesota, and NU (if you have WE). Otherwise, forget law school altogether, because even if you get into one, it's not worth going.

Verity wrote:There is no way you'll get Duke, UNC, or Wake Forest. Even if you get a 175+, Duke and UNC are probably still out, and there's only the slimmest of chances at Wake Forest.

Get a 170+, and look for splitter-friendly schools, like WUSTL, IU-B, Illinois, Minnesota, and NU (if you have WE). Otherwise, forget law school altogether, because even if you get into one, it's not worth going.

That is what I was figuring, but not what I wanted to hear. That being said, I will try for the 170+, but I can still consider Campbell and NCCU.

I do have WE by the way (about 7 years of university teaching).

a 2.0 is the lowest gpa you can have to even apply to law school, and a 3.5 as a master's is not terrible.

it's impressive you broke a t-2 with a 2.0 and 161 - congrats.

a 170 will give you a shot at UNC, which in your case is a good idea. duke won't happen even w a 180

flexityflex86 wrote:a 2.0 is the lowest gpa you can have to even apply to law school, and a 3.5 as a master's is not terrible.

it's impressive you broke a t-2 with a 2.0 and 161 - congrats.

a 170 will give you a shot at UNC, which in your case is a good idea. duke won't happen even w a 180

Yeah, unc is really what I want more than anything else anyways. I am an nc resident, and the costs would be great. I am not going to go to the t2 and instead try for next cycle after a retake, I justbhope I don't end up regretting that decision.

UNC isn't happening, even with a 170+. Look at their graphs on LSN.

kalvano wrote:UNC isn't happening, even with a 170+. Look at their graphs on LSN.

You are a downer.

But seriously, I will try and see, what's the worst that can happen.

Like I said before there is always nccu or Campbell (although I would probably choose nccu because of costs). What about wfu?

Guesses at elon, Campbell, nccu?

it just seems dumb to go into a field coming from a school where employment is soooo hard.

are you good looking, charismatic, quick on your feet and do well with people or are you just some pimply socially awkward guy who banged out a 161? this might influence how you interview or your ability to go solo.

if you aren't great at 3 of those 4, don't go if you can't break 170 with that GPA.

flexityflex86 wrote:it just seems dumb to go into a field coming from a school where employment is soooo hard.

are you good looking, charismatic, quick on your feet and do well with people or are you just some pimply socially awkward guy who banged out a 161? this might influence how you interview or your ability to go solo.

if you aren't great at 3 of those 4, don't go if you can't break 170 with that GPA.

3 out of 4, and I am sure I can improve on the score as well.

lookingtorebound wrote:

flexityflex86 wrote:it just seems dumb to go into a field coming from a school where employment is soooo hard.

are you good looking, charismatic, quick on your feet and do well with people or are you just some pimply socially awkward guy who banged out a 161? this might influence how you interview or your ability to go solo.

if you aren't great at 3 of those 4, don't go if you can't break 170 with that GPA.

3 out of 4, and I am sure I can improve on the score as well.

is this objective?

flexityflex86 wrote:

lookingtorebound wrote:

flexityflex86 wrote:it just seems dumb to go into a field coming from a school where employment is soooo hard.

are you good looking, charismatic, quick on your feet and do well with people or are you just some pimply socially awkward guy who banged out a 161? this might influence how you interview or your ability to go solo.

if you aren't great at 3 of those 4, don't go if you can't break 170 with that GPA.

3 out of 4, and I am sure I can improve on the score as well.

is this objective?

It is. My current job depends on these things, and I am good at my job.

might want to stay put then.

flexityflex86 wrote:might want to stay put then.

Yeah, but being good at your job and being satisfied with it are not the same thing.

lookingtorebound wrote:

flexityflex86 wrote:might want to stay put then.

Yeah, but being good at your job and being satisfied with it are not the same thing.

jobs aren't about satisfaction. love, friendship and hobbies are about satisfaction. jobs are about not being homeless.

with a 170+ and all of your w/e and education, i can't imagine that 2.0 would really be that heavy of a factor. It seems kinda up in the air to me though, just based on how 2.x usually do and how little info there is on applicants with doctorates. with a masters and phd, why are you considering law school?

flexityflex86 wrote:

lookingtorebound wrote:

flexityflex86 wrote:might want to stay put then.

Yeah, but being good at your job and being satisfied with it are not the same thing.

jobs aren't about satisfaction. love, friendship and hobbies are about satisfaction. jobs are about not being homeless.

My hope is that the two things are not mutually exclusive.

That being said, I am not planning to give up what I have without good reason, which is why I am trying to gather information first.

mattviphky wrote:with a 170+ and all of your w/e and education, i can't imagine that 2.0 would really be that heavy of a factor. It seems kinda up in the air to me though, just based on how 2.x usually do and how little info there is on applicants with doctorates. with a masters and phd, why are you considering law school?

Yeah, honesty the numbers don't really tell the story, and I am just hoping for a miracle. Honestly, by the numbers I should not have gotten into the T2 I did either, and I did (which a small amount of $ to boot).

mattviphky wrote:with a 170+ and all of your w/e and education, i can't imagine that 2.0 would really be that heavy of a factor. It seems kinda up in the air to me though, just based on how 2.x usually do and how little info there is on applicants with doctorates. with a masters and phd, why are you considering law school?

A 2.0 is always a heavy factor. I'm not saying it's logical or it makes sense but that is how law schools do it.

LOL @ OPs schools. Duke/UNC/etc.

Snowball's chance in the 7th circle of hell

2.0/170+ would have a shot at Wake I would think. They would jump at an LSAT like that. Agreed out at Carolina pretty much no matter what.

flexityflex86 wrote:

lookingtorebound wrote:

flexityflex86 wrote:might want to stay put then.

Yeah, but being good at your job and being satisfied with it are not the same thing.

jobs aren't about satisfaction. love, friendship and hobbies are about satisfaction. jobs are about not being homeless.

You moonlight as a bumper sticker writer?