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AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:40 pm
by kcirdor01
Took the LSAT last month....should I try my luck at UVA or take the test again????

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:42 pm
by Cavalier
Retake. You can get in with those numbers, but it's unlikely.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:59 pm
by BruceWayne
Cavalier wrote:Retake. You can get in with those numbers, but it's unlikely.
I agree that he should retake, but he's quite likely to get in with those numbers. The reason he should retake is because no AA male with a 3.8 and 160 LSAT should be settling for UVA; he should be aiming for HYS. OP retake, get a 164+ and get into at least Harvard/Stanford. The economy is far too poor for you to be settling for a non HYS school with your profile.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:16 am
by kcirdor01
Thanks for the advice

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:18 am
by 20121109
BruceWayne wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Retake. You can get in with those numbers, but it's unlikely.
I agree that he should retake, but he's quite likely to get in with those numbers. The reason he should retake is because no AA male with a 3.8 and 160 LSAT should be settling for UVA; he should be aiming for HYS. OP retake, get a 164+ and get into at least Harvard/Stanford. The economy is far too poor for you to be settling for a non HYS school with your profile.
This.

OP is easily in at UVA.

AA URMs have gotten into H off the WL with those numbers.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:19 am
by JamMasterJ
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
BruceWayne wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Retake. You can get in with those numbers, but it's unlikely.
I agree that he should retake, but he's quite likely to get in with those numbers. The reason he should retake is because no AA male with a 3.8 and 160 LSAT should be settling for UVA; he should be aiming for HYS. OP retake, get a 164+ and get into at least Harvard/Stanford. The economy is far too poor for you to be settling for a non HYS school with your profile.
This.

OP is easily in at UVA.

AA URMs have gotten into H off the WL with those numbers.
Especially damn unicorn AA males.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:50 pm
by saito816
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
BruceWayne wrote:
Cavalier wrote:Retake. You can get in with those numbers, but it's unlikely.
I agree that he should retake, but he's quite likely to get in with those numbers. The reason he should retake is because no AA male with a 3.8 and 160 LSAT should be settling for UVA; he should be aiming for HYS. OP retake, get a 164+ and get into at least Harvard/Stanford. The economy is far too poor for you to be settling for a non HYS school with your profile.
This.

OP is easily in at UVA.

AA URMs have gotten into H off the WL with those numbers.
The UVA part is not necessarily true. I got waitlisted at UVA with those exact numbers, but thankfully I'm also one of those "damn unicorns" who got into H off the waitlist. :)

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:17 pm
by Glock
URM is slightly harder to predict than non-URM. There is simply less data available. If I am you I retake. Shores up my chances and scholarships at the lower T14 and even a 165 makes gives you a decent shot at HY. You can do a 5 point bounce. Pretty much anybody can if they focus.

Retaking can give you a better school or a lot more money.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:00 pm
by dkt4
take it again, if you really want to go to UVA after you see your options that's cool

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:21 am
by afitouri
I don't know why people are acting like you're locked in for UVA with those numbers.

http://uva.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats

A LOT of URMs are rejected to UVA with similar and better numbers than his. A few are accepted with similar or worse numbers. He has a chance, but from looking at the numbers on that chart its 50/50 or worse.

Retake the LSAT, it looks like 163 3.8 is a shoo-in. 161 is also border-line shoo-in. But lol I guess UVA is picky about that 1 point difference.

Browse it for yourself. A decent chance, but why not re-take and go to a better school, or raise your chances with UVA like the other posters suggest?

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:29 am
by wolverinelove11
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Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:17 pm
by kcirdor01
I know Harvard is legit bro, but would you take a full ride at UVA, GTown, or GW over paying full freight at YHS?

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:41 pm
by BruceWayne
kcirdor01 wrote:I know Harvard is legit bro, but would you take a full ride at UVA, GTown, or GW over paying full freight at YHS?
The only people who pay full freight at HYS make enough money for full freight not to be a problem. And not to be stereotypical, but if he's a URM the likelihood is very slim that he makes enough money (or his parents) for him to have to pay full freight at HYS.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:32 am
by dkt4
i don't want to stereotype, but i'm going to anyway.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:38 am
by BruceWayne
dkt4 wrote:i don't want to stereotype, but i'm going to anyway.
Stereotype really wasn't the right word. I should have said assume. But honestly, your post was totally useless to the topic at hand either way.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:12 am
by Blessedassurance
afitouri wrote:A LOT of URMs are rejected to UVA with similar and better numbers than his. A few are accepted with similar or worse numbers. He has a chance, but from looking at the numbers on that chart its 50/50 or worse.

Retake the LSAT, it looks like 163 3.8 is a shoo-in. 161 is also border-line shoo-in. But lol I guess UVA is picky about that 1 point difference.

Browse it for yourself. A decent chance, but why not re-take and go to a better school, or raise your chances with UVA like the other posters suggest?
While I agree with the fact that he isn't a lock at Virginia, you can't cite urm-ness in its entirety to prove your point. There are different kinds of URMS with different boosts. Furthermore, some people who are urm's for other purposes aren't the kind of urm's that receive significant boosts in Law School admissions. For example, the guy that thinks he's a light-skinned AA because his ancestors are from Lybia, inter alia.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:54 am
by dkt4
BruceWayne wrote:
dkt4 wrote:i don't want to stereotype, but i'm going to anyway.
Stereotype really wasn't the right word. I should have said assume. But honestly, your post was totally useless to the topic at hand either way.
ouch brah

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:58 pm
by kcirdor01
What are everyone's thoughts on GWs ED program? Is it worth applying to?

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/apply ... early.aspx

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:59 pm
by 20121109
kcirdor01 wrote:What are everyone's thoughts on GWs ED program? Is it worth applying to?

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/apply ... early.aspx
Don't ED anywhere.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:06 pm
by TheFactor
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
kcirdor01 wrote:What are everyone's thoughts on GWs ED program? Is it worth applying to?

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/apply ... early.aspx
Don't ED anywhere.

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:17 pm
by kcirdor01
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
kcirdor01 wrote:What are everyone's thoughts on GWs ED program? Is it worth applying to?

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/apply ... early.aspx
Don't ED anywhere.
Even w/ the guarantee of a full tuition scholarship???

Re: AA Male 160/3.8 realistic chances at UVA

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:11 pm
by Corwin
kcirdor01 wrote:
GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:
kcirdor01 wrote:What are everyone's thoughts on GWs ED program? Is it worth applying to?

http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/apply ... early.aspx
Don't ED anywhere.
Even w/ the guarantee of a full tuition scholarship???
You can get a full tuition scholarship at a better school.