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Any work experience or straight through?

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I think you should work for a year or two if you really want HYS. Even H is not guaranteed since you are at LSAT median, below GPA median, and have no WE (average student has WE).

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Shawh wrote:Well, YHS would be a great dream. But I would be perfectly happy -- extremely happy -- with CCN as well.

Probably in at all 3, but Columbia can be strange some times. Don't apply late!

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Shawh wrote:

bdubs wrote:

Shawh wrote:Well, YHS would be a great dream. But I would be perfectly happy -- extremely happy -- with CCN as well.

Probably in at all 3, but Columbia can be strange some times. Don't apply late!

Alright, sounds good! Think I'll get any money from CCN?

Yup, plan to apply in Sep/Oct!

Chicago seemed the most generous of the 3 this year. NYU will probably give you something too, and if you have a special interest you might be competitive for one of their full rides if you write a good essay. I don't think you're in the range for named scholarships at Columbia, but you might get some unnamed merit money.

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Shawh wrote:Sounds great!

Any point in sending apps to schools other than YHSCCN?

Always a good idea to have safeties and use money at lower ranked schools for leverage when it comes time to negotiate schollys. But just make sure you do any supplemental essays to make sure you don't get YPed anywhere.

Good luck and congrats on your score!!!

Shawh wrote:Sounds great!

Any point in sending apps to schools other than YHSCCN?

Does debt bother you? You're not very likely to get a full ride, and probably not even likely to get a half-ride at any of the T6. If you want the option to potentially get a full ride you should throw apps to the rest of the T14 that give you fee waivers, but that is just a shot not a guarantee.

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Shawh wrote:

bdubs wrote:

Shawh wrote:Sounds great!

Any point in sending apps to schools other than YHSCCN?

Does debt bother you? You're not very likely to get a full ride, and probably not even likely to get a half-ride at any of the T6. If you want the option to potentially get a full ride you should throw apps to the rest of the T14 that give you fee waivers, but that is just a shot not a guarantee.

I would be willing to pay sticker at any of the T6. And I'd rather go to a T6 than something else in the T14, to be honest.

I'd probably check out LSN for your next top choice and make sure that >9/10 people with your numbers get in. If so just send in an app to that school as a safety. I'd probably throw out Penn as a good safety for you, but you'd have to write the extra essay.

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Y/S probably not. H, again I'd say probably not because H seems to have made a push for more work exp and your numbers aren't spectacular for H.

It's worth applying to the lower T14 (in addition to the T6, you should at least apply) even if you would most likely take CCN over the lower T14 because you can sometimes use lower T14 money as leverage with CCN.

Penn has a few options for their extra essay. I honestly think they are just trying to make sure you're not using them as a safety

bdubs wrote:

Shawh wrote:Well, YHS would be a great dream. But I would be perfectly happy -- extremely happy -- with CCN as well.

Probably in at all 3, but Columbia can be strange some times. Don't apply late!

Super true. Definitely apply to MVP and look for money (and one of them might be a better fit!), and Chicago has more $$ freed up because of the Rubenstein scholarships, so that's good news too

But definitely write Why Xs. They are SO helpful.

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I went almost straight through, had a 173 and a 3.89 LSAC, and got rejected at Stanford, waitlisted at Yale and Harvard, in everywhere else. Big money at Chicago, UVa, Duke, didn't apply to schollys at Penn, withdrew before decision at Columbia.

Kronk wrote:I went almost straight through, had a 173 and a 3.89 LSAC, and got rejected at Stanford, waitlisted at Yale and Harvard, in everywhere else. Big money at Chicago, UVa, Duke, didn't apply to schollys at Penn, withdrew before decision at Columbia.

172( retake)/3.88.Still in undergrad when applied. Dinged at Harvard,waitlisted at Stanford, didn't apply to Yale and received between $75,000 to $150,00 at Chicago,UVa,Duke and UPenn. Also $30,000 at CLS.Definitely write "why" essays and leverage schollys from one school to another. Apply early. Good luck

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Shawh wrote:This may be a really stupid idea, but I thought I'd float it out there anyway.

Would EDing to Columbia be wise at all, if that increased my chances?

Or would it be wiser to RD and hope for the best and see if Chicago/NYU gave me any sort of money?

I considered EDing Columbia. They seem to hold a lot of people in the 3.86 / 173 range, oddly enough. I think you will get in RD eventually though, and you're definitely good for money from Chicago. Maybe NYU.

I think the consideration would be: would you rather attend Columbia at sticker than another T10 school (like Chicago) with $$? If so, definitely ED. If not, definitely don't. With a well crafted PS, maybe a Why Columbia?, etc. you'll be in at Columbia, and not EDing gives you the chance to see if you might get Harvard or something, as well as getting you money at other places. Once you have money at Chicago, who knows, you may be able to squeeze something out of CLS.

bellamy wrote:172( retake)/3.88.Still in undergrad when applied. Dinged at Harvard,waitlisted at Stanford, didn't apply to Yale and received between $75,000 to $150,00 at Chicago,UVa,Duke and UPenn. Also $30,000 at CLS.Definitely write "why" essays and leverage schollys from one school to another. Apply early. Good luck

I think with the opportunity for money like this, it doesn't make sense to ED to Columbia unless you will be super, amazingly, awfully unhappy attending anywhere BUT Columbia. Because your #s will get you good money at a LOT of places, and ED is basically committing yourself to paying sticker (with which NYC COL factored in, is like $215k over three years)