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Hey, I guess I'm probably the first to post a thread from what I am sure will be a rush from the June LSATers getting their scores right now.

Anyway, I just got a 166, UG GPA: 3.495. I graduated UG in 2007 and have been working as a newspaper writer since then.

My PT average was 169.5 over 30 PTs with a high of 174 and a low of 163. I'm kind of disappointed in my score, but I guess it could have been worse.

So, I guess I'm looking for feedback on whether I'd have a legitimate shot at BC or BU. My reach has been Michigan.

Also, retake? I'm thinking I'm going to apply early in the cycle and then take the October and update after that. But, really, if I am likely to make it into BU/BC then I'd rather not go through the trials of taking another LSAT.

I think you'd have a legitmate shot at BU/BC based on my own cycle (my numbers were similar/slightly higher).

If you have a high of 174, you should not be satisfied with a 166. Come back in October.

Oh hey there's this wonderful website for people with questions like yours:

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Enjoy.

bk187 wrote:Oh hey there's this wonderful website for people with questions like yours:

http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com

Enjoy.

What this shows me is that people with my exact numbers can go either way.

cinephile wrote:I think you'd have a legitmate shot at BU/BC based on my own cycle (my numbers were similar/slightly higher).

That's good to hear. Checking LSN and LSP has just made me feel more unsure. LSP seems to tell me I'd get a "Weak Consider" - "Consider" at BU.

I'm thinking a retake would be the wisest move.

thelong wrote:What this shows me is that people with my exact numbers can go either way.

So you have a 50/50 shot.

Actually I looked at it and I think you're being way too generous by saying it could "go either way." I'd say you're pretty solidly out with a 3.5/166 at both of them. You need either .1-.2 higher on your GPA or 1-2 points on your LSAT. Which also means you probably shouldn't put too much stock in having a similar cycle to cinephile since you are right on the cusp of getting in and cinephile's higher numbers means that you really can't extrapolate from how their cycle went.

ETA: Yeah, cinephile has a 3.6/167 which looks far different than 3.5/166 when you look at the LSN graph.

bk187 wrote:

thelong wrote:What this shows me is that people with my exact numbers can go either way.

So you have a 50/50 shot.

Actually I looked at it and I think you're being way too generous by saying it could "go either way." I'd say you're pretty solidly out with a 3.5/166 at both of them. You need either .1-.2 higher on your GPA or 1-2 points on your LSAT. Which also means you probably shouldn't put too much stock in having a similar cycle to cinephile since you are right on the cusp of getting in and cinephile's higher numbers means that you really can't extrapolate from how their cycle went.

ETA: Yeah, cinephile has a 3.6/167 which looks far different than 3.5/166 when you look at the LSN graph.

This basically confirms what I'm afraid of.

The best part about this news is that it removes all question from the retake/not retake debate. Definitely going to retake in October.

Best of luck in October

cinephile wrote:Best of luck in October

Thanks. I just need to figure out how to reboot my studying I guess and get my PT into the mid-170s to increase my odds on test day. I didn't feel stressed and actually really felt in the zone, but going over my scores now the questions I missed were intensely obvious.

What I think I need to do is stop making dumb mistakes.