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Retake? That wasn't the question, but I wouldn't disagree, especially since it's OP's first score.splitmuch wrote:Do I have to be the first to say it?
hooma wrote:Retake? That wasn't the question, but I wouldn't disagree, especially since it's OP's first score.splitmuch wrote:Do I have to be the first to say it?
This is a strange post.hooma wrote:I predict that you'll get money from Georgetown, and you're in at UVa and Penn.
as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
almost nothing will give you 2 points of an lsat boost except 2 more points on the lsat. seriously though.sapien wrote:I'm sorry to the OP for intruding, but I was wondering if a 3.93 (from a top 50 undergrad) and a 168 and 171 faces the same odds as OP.. Would this be seen as a 171 or a 170 at HYSCCN? Also, would another retake be more likely to hurt than to help?MaxWeber wrote:as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
FWIW: from my back of the envelope tally during SLS admit student weekend and from the subsequent "introduce yourself" listserv chain, about 60% of SLS 2014 went to a ivy/top10 UG (or top 5 LAC), about 30% went to a top 25 school, and 10% from another T1 school.
Hell, they are worth the hail mary anyway. Especially Stanford if you have something interesting to talk about in your PS.TheFactor wrote:This is a strange post.hooma wrote:I predict that you'll get money from Georgetown, and you're in at UVa and Penn.
OP, you're in with $$$ everywhere outside of the top 6 and Boalt. Apply from Chicago on down and enjoy a great cycle. If you could find another 2 or 3 points on a retake, YHS might be in play.
Of course a 3.93 at a prestigious school is better than a 3.93 at a non-prestigious school. It also matters more in the range of the T3/T6 as well. But my point was more that a 3.9 at state is better than a 3.8 at an Ivy.MaxWeber wrote:as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
FWIW: from my back of the envelope tally during SLS admit student weekend and from the subsequent "introduce yourself" listserv chain, about 60% of SLS 2014 went to a ivy/top10 UG (or top 5 LAC), about 30% went to a top 25 school, and 10% from another T1 school.
sapien wrote:I'm sorry to the OP for intruding, but I was wondering if a 3.93 (from a top 50 undergrad) and a 168 and 171 faces the same odds as OP.. Would this be seen as a 171 or a 170 at HYSCCN? Also, would another retake be more likely to hurt than to help?MaxWeber wrote:as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
FWIW: from my back of the envelope tally during SLS admit student weekend and from the subsequent "introduce yourself" listserv chain, about 60% of SLS 2014 went to a ivy/top10 UG (or top 5 LAC), about 30% went to a top 25 school, and 10% from another T1 school.
search for the multi LSAT threads for more, but from experience: harvard and columbia average unless there is a very statistically significant jump (7 pts or more according to columbia); stanford and yale "will look at both" (which i took to mean that they'd see which score "fits" better with your application, and more likely the higher score); berkeley looks at higher score only.Kronk wrote:Better chances than the OP. 171 > 170. A first, lower score will hurt you on in that if you are looking at two identical candidates it might be a tiebreaker. For example if you were 168, 170 I might say the OP has a slight edge on you. But highest score is really what matters.sapien wrote:I'm sorry to the OP for intruding, but I was wondering if a 3.93 (from a top 50 undergrad) and a 168 and 171 faces the same odds as OP.. Would this be seen as a 171 or a 170 at HYSCCN? Also, would another retake be more likely to hurt than to help?MaxWeber wrote:as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
FWIW: from my back of the envelope tally during SLS admit student weekend and from the subsequent "introduce yourself" listserv chain, about 60% of SLS 2014 went to a ivy/top10 UG (or top 5 LAC), about 30% went to a top 25 school, and 10% from another T1 school.
Some schools say they average, but from my experience they certainly don't.
Yeah, all other things being exactly equal, an ivy ug will beat me, an average lib arts ug, but if my app had something else that was higher, I doubt anyone would give a shit about this "boost"bk187 wrote:Of course a 3.93 at a prestigious school is better than a 3.93 at a non-prestigious school. It also matters more in the range of the T3/T6 as well. But my point was more that a 3.9 at state is better than a 3.8 at an Ivy.MaxWeber wrote:as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
FWIW: from my back of the envelope tally during SLS admit student weekend and from the subsequent "introduce yourself" listserv chain, about 60% of SLS 2014 went to a ivy/top10 UG (or top 5 LAC), about 30% went to a top 25 school, and 10% from another T1 school.
Another thing is that adcomms are fairly notorious for not being entirely truthful. I mean they don't lie, but they say things like "softs really do matter" when the reality is that of course they matter but they are very very secondary to numbers.
All those sound good and it is all about how well you talk them up. You will have things to talk about which is better than most applicants. But, even though all these softs may make a difference and help you out or get a little more $, numbers are all important. And your number count as great for mvp and average for ccn. Take money at mvp or sticker at ccn (maybe some $). congrats.jungminnee wrote:Wow, thanks for the input!
I'll clarify more about my current status.
1) In terms of undergrad education - I'm at UPenn.
2) Extracurriculars - Intern at LA District Attorney's office; president of one of school's humanitarian groups (also started the group); some summer work experience (tutoring).
3) Unique points - Cancer survivor (not really sure if that really matters, but will most likely write on it somewhere within my apps).
4) URM - Nope.
5) Preferences - I'd love (extremely) SCCNMVPB. I'll probably still apply to HY, but my hopes are not too high for those.
Questions:
1) With these details, are there any changes (in your opinions) regarding my chances?
2) Does ED help?
Thanks!
That's what they say, but it's not what they do.MaxWeber wrote:search for the multi LSAT threads for more, but from experience: harvard and columbia average unless there is a very statistically significant jump (7 pts or more according to columbia); stanford and yale "will look at both" (which i took to mean that they'd see which score "fits" better with your application, and more likely the higher score); berkeley looks at higher score only.
Did you get in at H down?glitched wrote:almost nothing will give you 2 points of an lsat boost except 2 more points on the lsat. seriously though.sapien wrote:I'm sorry to the OP for intruding, but I was wondering if a 3.93 (from a top 50 undergrad) and a 168 and 171 faces the same odds as OP.. Would this be seen as a 171 or a 170 at HYSCCN? Also, would another retake be more likely to hurt than to help?MaxWeber wrote:as one who regularly asked this question of admit officers during my cycle when they would come to visit my school, it reportedly does at T6, especially at Y/S....a 3.93 at an ivy > a 3.93 at a T50 > 3.93 T1, etc...
FWIW: from my back of the envelope tally during SLS admit student weekend and from the subsequent "introduce yourself" listserv chain, about 60% of SLS 2014 went to a ivy/top10 UG (or top 5 LAC), about 30% went to a top 25 school, and 10% from another T1 school.
3.89 with a 170 here and i applied H down.