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I would've thought I'd have a better shot at MVP than a school like Duke...bhan87 wrote:HYSCCN, B, and probably MVP are out. NU is in if you have WE. Chance at Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown.
If you're going to ED, ED to one of MVP.
You would, that was mistaken advice. Duke is know for their focus on gpa. The only low gpa applicants that have gotten in are off the waitlist. Your best shot RD is gulc, cornell and mich. I think you get UVA ed. I wouldn't count on mich on way or another since they seem to not take too many splitters below 3.4x.Badgers2012 wrote:I would've thought I'd have a better shot at MVP than a school like Duke...bhan87 wrote:HYSCCN, B, and probably MVP are out. NU is in if you have WE. Chance at Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown.
If you're going to ED, ED to one of MVP.
You are going to be lower T14 at best, IMO. Personally I would seriously consider taking a full ride at a lower ranked school over paying sticker at a place like Georgetown considering what I have heard about employment prospects there.Badgers2012 wrote:Non URM. I would be ok paying sticker for T14
Yeah I really have to think about it because I might like to go to a place like that for free. Or even WUSTL for close to full. But I really like UVA and will have to weigh options. The difference in employment prospects from UVA to T20 is actually substantial from what I can gather. Plus benefits such as potential clerkshipsfiremed wrote:You are going to be lower T14 at best, IMO. Personally I would seriously consider taking a full ride at a lower ranked school over paying sticker at a place like Georgetown considering what I have heard about employment prospects there.Badgers2012 wrote:Non URM. I would be ok paying sticker for T14
Sure, employment prospects would be lower, but hey, you wouldn't have any debt graduating from- for instance- UI-Urbana-Champaign. They were giving full rides this last cycle to people with your numbers.
Whoops, my bad. Didn't realize Duke had such a strict GPA cutoffdabbadon8 wrote:You would, that was mistaken advice. Duke is know for their focus on gpa. The only low gpa applicants that have gotten in are off the waitlist. Your best shot RD is gulc, cornell and mich. I think you get UVA ed. I wouldn't count on mich on way or another since they seem to not take too many splitters below 3.4x.Badgers2012 wrote:I would've thought I'd have a better shot at MVP than a school like Duke...bhan87 wrote:HYSCCN, B, and probably MVP are out. NU is in if you have WE. Chance at Duke, Cornell, and Georgetown.
If you're going to ED, ED to one of MVP.
If I were in your shoes and truly didn't mind paying sticker (take from now till september to think on that) I would ed to uva and call it a cycle. You are going to probably pay sticker now matter what in the t-14 and it be great to have a 15 day cycle.
Look at LSN for people with similar numbers to yours. If you don't see them getting accepted to schools you considering, don't count on you getting accepted. LSN tends to be pretty accurate. Plan your cycle accordingly.Badgers2012 wrote:Any other ideas or opinions?
That's the best you think? I have similar numbers and am hoping for maybe an ED to UVA. I would be happy about UT/USCLA/Vandy with some money but I have been hearing they won't bite on a 3.1-3.2ish app (maybe off WL idk)stylishlaw wrote:Your cycle will look like this:
Lock at WUSTL with $$$
Possibility of Texas/UCLA/Vandy/USC biting and giving $
Possibility of Cornell/Georgetown/Northwestern(if you have WE) at sticker
A 3.17 is probably not getting UT/UCLA/USC since they are such GPA whores. Maybe Vandy as Vandy has dipped pretty low in GPA this cycle which they never used to do. If this cycle hadn't happened yet I would have said Vandy is probably out too.ArtVandalay wrote:That's the best you think? I have similar numbers and am hoping for maybe an ED to UVA. I would be happy about UT/USCLA/Vandy with some money but I have been hearing they won't bite on a 3.1-3.2ish app (maybe off WL idk)stylishlaw wrote:Your cycle will look like this:
Lock at WUSTL with $$$
Possibility of Texas/UCLA/Vandy/USC biting and giving $
Possibility of Cornell/Georgetown/Northwestern(if you have WE) at sticker
If, after you've considered everything, you decide you're still ok with paying sticker for a T14, I think you have a pretty good shot at UVA if you ED.Badgers2012 wrote:Yeah I really have to think about it because I might like to go to a place like that for free. Or even WUSTL for close to full. But I really like UVA and will have to weigh options. The difference in employment prospects from UVA to T20 is actually substantial from what I can gather. Plus benefits such as potential clerkshipsfiremed wrote:You are going to be lower T14 at best, IMO. Personally I would seriously consider taking a full ride at a lower ranked school over paying sticker at a place like Georgetown considering what I have heard about employment prospects there.Badgers2012 wrote:Non URM. I would be ok paying sticker for T14
Sure, employment prospects would be lower, but hey, you wouldn't have any debt graduating from- for instance- UI-Urbana-Champaign. They were giving full rides this last cycle to people with your numbers.
+1. If you do go the UVA route (the best option in my opinion), there's no reason not to get your app in right when applications open.sanetruth wrote:The advice ITT is terrible. Especially the guy who said throw apps to 51-100? With that LSAT, even if you're not looking to pay sticker, you'll get a full ride in somewhere in the T50. Don't even bother with 51-100.
UVA is a lock with an ED before mid november.
Penn/Michigan will depend on a solid app/good softs/luck. They are more holistic so don't listen to anyone who says there is a wall that you're under. Mich waitlisted a guy this year with a 173/3.3 but let in someone with 169/3.1, both not URMs. If you really think you have a good app, an ED to one of them gives you a good shot.
Berekeley is out, duke is out.
Northwestern is in RD if you have WE.
Cornell could go either way. I wouldn't call them holistic, but they have no consistent acceptance methodology from cycle to cycle.
Georgetown is good.
UCLA and USC are out, they like GPAs. Vanderbilt is up or down, and from there on down you're pretty good, most often with $$
can't ed to cornell; it's a non-binding ealawyerwannabe wrote:It looks like you could gain acceptance to Georgetown RD and and Northwestern RD if you have WE.
If you are looking to ED, UVA is your best bet. UMich and UPenn appear to not be as lenient in regards to accepting applicants in your GPA range. Cornell could also be a law school where an ED application could do the trick (if you prefer Ithaca).
HYSCCNBD are out because of your GPA.
Best of luck.
dresden doll wrote:ED to MVP, then.
He'd know.MC Southstar wrote:dresden doll wrote:ED to MVP, then.
First off, a lot of the advice in this thread is quite good. Second off:sanetruth wrote:The advice ITT is terrible. Especially the guy who said throw apps to 51-100? With that LSAT, even if you're not looking to pay sticker, you'll get a full ride in somewhere in the T50. Don't even bother with 51-100.
This is an excellent plan.buckilaw wrote:If you don't mind paying sticker at T14 - which I think you should seriously consider since USC, UCLA, UT, and Vandy are unlikely to throw money at you - ED to UVA the day apps become available. There is a good chance that they will admit you. If they do not admit you ED, you will know within like two weeks, giving you plenty of time to send another ED app to Michigan.
If you have some money to burn on applications apply RD from MVP through the top 20 or so plus BU and BC. Do this only if you don't get into UVA. You could also look at some solid regional schools where you have ties/want to practice.