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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if some of you could chance me and/or offer advice regarding where I should be applying to. I did my undergrad at UCI, enjoyed my experience and would love to go there for law school. Chances of acceptance there? Possible scholly? I am also curious about my chances at receiving an acceptance to a Top 50? I would obviously take the best opportunity given to me, however I'd prefer to go to a school in Socal, Chicago, Detroit-Ann Arbor, or New York region.

URM Female - AA & NA (however, not registered with a tribe)
171 LSAT
3.0 LSDAS GPA
Will be applying as early as possible in the next cycle
Strong softs; don't want to reveal for privacy
Worked at a law firm as a file clerk for a little over a year

Thanks!

You're aiming too low if you're thinking T50. I would definitely bet you will get some T14 acceptances (maybe some lower ones with a bit of money).

Honestly, I would only apply to the T14. T20 if you want full schollys, though I'm sure you have a strong chance of a full ride at UVA.

HYS is probably out with that GPA. Your strongest shot is at H, but still, URMs with your stats have been WLed in the past.

CCN - Probably in if you put together a strong application. At the very least WLed.

T7-14 - In with $$$.

Good luck

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Honestly, I would only apply to the T14. T20 if you want full schollys, though I'm sure you have a strong chance of a full ride at UVA.

HYS is probably out with that GPA. Your strongest shot is at H, but still, URMs with your stats have been WLed in the past.

CCN - Probably in if you put together a strong application. At the very least WLed.

T7-14 - In with $$$.

Good luck

I have a question for you GAIA. According to lawschoolpredictor, those numbers (with URM) are flat reject at the T8 and "consider" through the rest of the T14. But I'm much more inclined to believe you than an automated predictor. In your view, is lawschoolpredictor overly pessimistic for URM? Or what accounts for the difference between what you say and lawschool predictor?

anteater7 wrote:Hi everyone,

I was wondering if some of you could chance me and/or offer advice regarding where I should be applying to. I did my undergrad at UCI, enjoyed my experience and would love to go there for law school. Chances of acceptance there? Possible scholly? I am also curious about my chances at receiving an acceptance to a Top 50? I would obviously take the best opportunity given to me, however I'd prefer to go to a school in Socal, Chicago, Detroit-Ann Arbor, or New York region.

URM Female - AA & NA (however, not registered with a tribe)
171 LSAT
3.0 LSDAS GPA
Will be applying as early as possible in the next cycle
Strong softs; don't want to reveal for privacy
Worked as a law clerk for a little over a year

Thanks!

I'd recommend that a person with your profile apply exclusively to T20 schools. Best wishes on crafting a top notch application.

horrorbusiness wrote:

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Honestly, I would only apply to the T14. T20 if you want full schollys, though I'm sure you have a strong chance of a full ride at UVA.

HYS is probably out with that GPA. Your strongest shot is at H, but still, URMs with your stats have been WLed in the past.

CCN - Probably in if you put together a strong application. At the very least WLed.

T7-14 - In with $$$.

Good luck

I have a question for you GAIA. According to lawschoolpredictor, those numbers (with URM) are flat reject at the T8 and "consider" through the rest of the T14. But I'm much more inclined to believe you than an automated predictor. In your view, is lawschoolpredictor overly pessimistic for URM? Or what accounts for the difference between what you say and lawschool predictor?

Yes. LSP is overly pessimistic for URMs. I know a 160/ 3.69 URM female in the T6 and I'm sure if you plug those numbers into LSP, it would give that applicant little to no chance of acceptance. The fact is, URM cycles are quite unpredictable at times, especially for AA males, and one should still choose to apply to certain schools even if LSP tells you otherwise.

horrorbusiness wrote:

GAIAtheCHEERLEADER wrote:Honestly, I would only apply to the T14. T20 if you want full schollys, though I'm sure you have a strong chance of a full ride at UVA.

HYS is probably out with that GPA. Your strongest shot is at H, but still, URMs with your stats have been WLed in the past.

CCN - Probably in if you put together a strong application. At the very least WLed.

T7-14 - In with $$$.

Good luck

I have a question for you GAIA. According to lawschoolpredictor, those numbers (with URM) are flat reject at the T8 and "consider" through the rest of the T14. But I'm much more inclined to believe you than an automated predictor. In your view, is lawschoolpredictor overly pessimistic for URM? Or what accounts for the difference between what you say and lawschool predictor?

I think lsp is overly pessimistic to major splitters such as yourself. I think I read somewhere on tls about how it is pessimistic with chances for splitters in order to make it more accurate for the majority or something like that... I would say to check out lawschoolnumbers but I've done that and there really aren't that many URM splitters graphed (I've obsessively looked). I'd say to apply to several "reach" schools because you really never know when you're a splitter *and* URM.

Thank you for your replies everyone. I was unaware of lawschoolpredictor's pessimistic results for URMs and splitters which is why I was assuming T30 would be a reach. I would absolutely take any acceptance to a T14 but would like to know which ones favor splitters or URMs? Or both? I heard Northwestern does, however you must have significant work experience. Also, I heard California schools love high GPAs, so that rules out Boalt, Stanford, UCLA and USC, but what about UCI? Thanks again!

Definitely in at UCI. You really need to be applying to schools MVP and below also. Some T14s should bite.

Thanks again everyone. Just heard that UCI's law school received provisional accreditation this month and that based off the LSAT scores and GPA ranges it is to be ranked in the top 25. How does this affect my chances of getting into UCI law now?

anteater7 wrote:Thanks again everyone. Just heard that UCI's law school received provisional accredidation this month and that based off the LSAT scores and GPA ranges it is to be ranked in the top 25. How does this affect my chances of getting into UCI law now?

Doesn't change much. It'll be harder to get in of course, but you'll be sitting pretty with that 170.

Hi again.

Recalculated my LSDAS GPA...it's a 3.14 if that helps any. I also visited some law schools this summer to get a feel for them and I absolutely fell in love with Michigan Law. I have strong ties to the region - my mother is a Michigan native, my grandparents still live there, and a couple of my relatives went there for undergrad. Assuming I write a decent personal statement, a diversity statement, a "Why Michigan" (I'm really interested in their International Law curriculum as well as their emphasis on public interest), and an addendum explaining the illness that impacted my GPA, what are my chances of being accepted if I apply very early?

Michigan is my number one choice right now, but I intend on applying to Harvard, Columbia, Penn, Chicago, NYU, UVA, Northwestern, Cornell, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Boalt (why not?), GWU, Wash U, Boston, Fordham, UCD, and UCI. Chances at these schools with my updated GPA? Should I write "Why X" for all of them?

Note: I am not applying this cycle. I'm currently working and traveling, but will be applying in the 2012-13 cycle.

anteater7 wrote:Hi again.

Recalculated my LSDAS GPA...it's a 3.14 if that helps any. I also visited some law schools this summer to get a feel for them and I absolutely fell in love with Michigan Law. I have strong ties to the region - my mother is a Michigan native, my grandparents still live there, and a couple of my relatives went there for undergrad. Assuming I write a decent personal statement, a diversity statement, a "Why Michigan" (I'm really interested in their International Law curriculum as well as their emphasis on public interest), and an addendum explaining the illness that impacted my GPA, what are my chances of being accepted if I very early?

Michigan is my number one choice right now, but I intend on applying to Harvard, Columbia, Penn, Chicago, NYU, UVA, Northwestern, Cornell, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Boalt (why not?), GWU, Wash U, Boston, Fordham, UCD, and UCI. Chances at these schools with my updated GPA? Should I write "Why X" for all of them?

Note: I am not applying this cycle. I'm currently working and traveling, but will be applying in the 2012-13 cycle.

If Michigan says no, I'd be astounded.

Definitely ED if it's your $1 choice since their financial aid is given out regardless of ED.

LawSchoolChampion wrote:

anteater7 wrote:Hi again.

Recalculated my LSDAS GPA...it's a 3.14 if that helps any. I also visited some law schools this summer to get a feel for them and I absolutely fell in love with Michigan Law. I have strong ties to the region - my mother is a Michigan native, my grandparents still live there, and a couple of my relatives went there for undergrad. Assuming I write a decent personal statement, a diversity statement, a "Why Michigan" (I'm really interested in their International Law curriculum as well as their emphasis on public interest), and an addendum explaining the illness that impacted my GPA, what are my chances of being accepted if I very early?

Michigan is my number one choice right now, but I intend on applying to Harvard, Columbia, Penn, Chicago, NYU, UVA, Northwestern, Cornell, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Boalt (why not?), GWU, Wash U, Boston, Fordham, UCD, and UCI. Chances at these schools with my updated GPA? Should I write "Why X" for all of them?

Note: I am not applying this cycle. I'm currently working and traveling, but will be applying in the 2012-13 cycle.

If Michigan says no, I'd be astounded.

Definitely ED if it's your $1 choice since their financial aid is given out regardless of ED.

So I can still receive scholarship money if I apply ED? Would it be a decent amount?

Don't ED. Yes Michigan could give you a decent scholarship but by foregoing all of your other options you won't be able to negotiate it up at all. An unpredictable cycle means some great stuff could be on it's way, and you'd be giving it all up for Michigan.

Thanks Tiago for your response. I don't want to be locked in a position that may limit my options. Curious as to what my chances are for the other schools I listed, as well as the potential for scholarship money at those schools. Anyone?