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Any input on my chances T14? 169 LSAT, ~3.6, and TFA. I know TFA doesn't mean that much in this process besides free applications. I did not join TFA to boost my credentials - I have simply found that I do not belong in a classroom long-term - so please spare any lectures.

I'd love to be in Chicago (UChicago is a reach, Northwestern more possible). I'd like to end up at a Top 25 school. If anyone has any input on my chances, I'd appreciate the input.

I imagine you will snag at least one lower t14 and youll probably get a large scholarship to at least one t25... I don't really knoqw that much about how much TFA helps..

Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

Cornell is the only t14 I think you have a decent shot at, but you will definitely snag some of 15-25.

Edit: maybe michigan?

paulinaporizkova wrote:Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

seriously?

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

seriously?

i'd say so, LSAT is 1 pt below median and GPA is average, and NU has a pretty average GPA median IIRC. i think it's a go if the app is in early enough, and EDing (if you want) would make it more of a lock. no?

paulinaporizkova wrote:

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

seriously?

i'd say so, LSAT is 1 pt below median and GPA is average, and NU has a pretty average GPA median IIRC. i think it's a go if the app is in early enough, and EDing (if you want) would make it more of a lock. no?

I actually have no idea what median GPA is at NU, if she's at it then maybe.

edit: website says median is 3.8

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

seriously?

i'd say so, LSAT is 1 pt below median and GPA is average, and NU has a pretty average GPA median IIRC. i think it's a go if the app is in early enough, and EDing (if you want) would make it more of a lock. no?

I actually have no idea what median GPA is at NU, if she's at it then maybe.

middle 50 is 3.4-3.8 (just looked)

paulinaporizkova wrote:middle 50 is 3.4-3.8 (just looked)

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/
says the median gpa is 3.8 for the class entering in 2010. Middle 50 is not really relevant if he/she is below both medians and didn't cure cancer...

paulinaporizkova wrote:

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

seriously?

i'd say so, LSAT is 1 pt below median and GPA is average, and NU has a pretty average GPA median IIRC. i think it's a go if the app is in early enough, and EDing (if you want) would make it more of a lock. no?

Median is 3.8 at NU, OP has a very slim chance of getting in even with ED.

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/

alright i stand corrected. maybe i am just underestimating the difference between a 169 and a 170 (which, i guess i realize now, is a BFD at most lower t14s)

NU's median GPA is 3.8. Below both medians is going to be a stretch at any top school for a non-URM. Michigan and Cornell are probably the best shots in the t13 unless they raise their median LSAT score to 170. Vandy/Texas/UCLA would be a go I think.

paulinaporizkova wrote:alright i stand corrected. maybe i am just underestimating the difference between a 169 and a 170 (which, i guess i realize now, is a BFD at most lower t14s)

Aren't you going to UVA? They're like the BEST example of this!

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:alright i stand corrected. maybe i am just underestimating the difference between a 169 and a 170 (which, i guess i realize now, is a BFD at most lower t14s)

Aren't you going to UVA? They're like the BEST example of this!

you know, i knew it was a big deal at UVa but i didn't realize it was as big of a deal at NU. maybe because i didn't apply to NU in the first place so i never really thought/learned much about it.

Thanks everyone for the input. My plan is to ED Northwestern and see what happens. I applied before doing TFA in case I wanted to defer any acceptance I liked. WL at NU and rejected at UChicago (expected). Hopefully I'll have better luck this time around.

What would you say my chances are at Cornell, GULC, and Vanderbilt? I'm considering a PhD/JD program. I don't know if that has any bearing on acceptances or not.

initech wrote:Thanks everyone for the input. My plan is to ED Northwestern and see what happens. I applied before doing TFA in case I wanted to defer any acceptance I liked. WL at NU and rejected at UChicago (expected). Hopefully I'll have better luck this time around.

What would you say my chances are at Cornell, GULC, and Vanderbilt? I'm considering a PhD/JD program. I don't know if that has any bearing on acceptances or not.

I got into Cornell and GULC with similar stats (gpa closer to 3.7, but no work experience). I'd say you're a safe bet at Cornell. GULC is a toss up.

You have no chance at Northwestern. They have a strict 170 wall for lower GPAs -- even for those with WE. I would say that you have a decent shot at Cornell, but not a less than decent chance at any other T14. A point extra would make a world of difference. As for the T25, you will get $$$.

Just putting it out there, I think TFA gave me a big boost in a lot of ways.
Good luck and reach despite low chances.

3.4, 169 engineer here. There is a 170 wall at a lot of places, including GTown and Northwestern.

Your best bets in the T14 are Cornell and Michigan
Outside of that, you have good chances at UCLA/UT/Vandy/USC (UT has a 3.5 gpa floor, so who knows)
In at WUSTL with a lot of $$$

Good luck with Cornell... I think you could get G-town too, or possibly lucky at some other T14s.

ED to michigan on september 1st with a compelling "why mich"

My plan will be to ED at Northwestern early in the application cycle. How much does EDing really help? I know my chances at Northwestern are slim, but that's where I would like to be. This topic has probably been covered on here somewhere, but I'd rather not go searching.

bdubs wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:

hipstermafia wrote:

paulinaporizkova wrote:Northwestern is probably a go, Chicago not so much

seriously?

i'd say so, LSAT is 1 pt below median and GPA is average, and NU has a pretty average GPA median IIRC. i think it's a go if the app is in early enough, and EDing (if you want) would make it more of a lock. no?

Median is 3.8 at NU, OP has a very slim chance of getting in even with ED.

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/profile/

I know someone with similar stats who did get in ED, and NU seems like TFA. If the OP wants NU, she should consider applying ED. I don't think she'll get in otherwise, and still probably won't.

NU is fairly generous with their ED apps.

You should definitely apply to Michigan early, and with good apps, and a good Why Michigan. Also Cornell is a good target too. Boalt is a long shot. Maybe if you went to a school that has grade deflation.

initech wrote:My plan will be to ED at Northwestern early in the application cycle. How much does EDing really help? I know my chances at Northwestern are slim, but that's where I would like to be. This topic has probably been covered on here somewhere, but I'd rather not go searching.

http://northwestern.lawschoolnumbers.co ... =3&type=jd

Judging based on last cycle, you certainly have a shot. Certainly not a lock, but probably not too bad odds.

I will also be able to add a Master's Degree and a 4.0 graduate school GPA. Will these factors give much of a boost? My number one choice will be at Northwestern, ED.