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doesnt matter

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:51 pm
by Bigred2008
Doesn't matter

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:52 pm
by FiveSermon
Apply everywhere/anywhere you want to.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:13 pm
by JamMasterJ
Any school is possible as a black male with that kind of LSAT score. The most likely way you could get dinged would be as a result of gpa floors (though I am not sure that those apply to URMs)
Obv make sure you write about your parents in a diversity essay.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:18 pm
by YourCaptain
You will end up at NYU, bumping this in a year.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:59 am
by DreamsInDigital
I'm going with Chicago.

OP - with a well written application, I think you are in almost everywhere you apply. HYS are always a toss up but I think you can get into the T6 and probably get good money from T14.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:03 am
by NikaneOkie
JamMasterJ wrote:Any school is possible as a black male with that kind of LSAT score. The most likely way you could get dinged would be as a result of gpa floors (though I am not sure that those apply to URMs)
Obv make sure you write about your parents in a diversity essay.
GPA floors apply to everyone.
YHS are all out. But, you should think of applying, and being ready to ride out some WLs, at all other schools.
Also, if at all possible, take online or summer courses and pad your GPA.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:21 am
by DreamsInDigital
NikaneOkie wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:Any school is possible as a black male with that kind of LSAT score. The most likely way you could get dinged would be as a result of gpa floors (though I am not sure that those apply to URMs)
Obv make sure you write about your parents in a diversity essay.
GPA floors apply to everyone.
YHS are all out. But, you should think of applying, and being ready to ride out some WLs, at all other schools.
Also, if at all possible, take online or summer courses and pad your GPA.
While it is good to give people realistic expectations, I think Yale and Stanford at least can and do take extraordinary applicants. They are at the level of prestige where a couple ridiculous gpa's and lsat's don't matter to them.

If the OP has a compelling addendum (which from the original post I think is very likely), work experience that demonstrates proven leadership ability while shouldering a lot of responsibility, and can articulate a strong reason for wanting to attend law school, anything is possible.

It seems that Harvard is more numbers based, so I'd leave that out. But since op is likely to get a lot of fee waivers because of the lsat, it would be worth it to throw apps at Yale and Stanford.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:27 am
by NikaneOkie
DreamsInDigital wrote:
NikaneOkie wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:Any school is possible as a black male with that kind of LSAT score. The most likely way you could get dinged would be as a result of gpa floors (though I am not sure that those apply to URMs)
Obv make sure you write about your parents in a diversity essay.
GPA floors apply to everyone.
YHS are all out. But, you should think of applying, and being ready to ride out some WLs, at all other schools.
Also, if at all possible, take online or summer courses and pad your GPA.
While it is good to give people realistic expectations, I think Yale and Stanford at least can and do take extraordinary applicants. They are at the level of prestige where a couple ridiculous gpa's and lsat's don't matter to them.

If the OP has a compelling addendum (which from the original post I think is very likely), work experience that demonstrates proven leadership ability while shouldering a lot of responsibility, and can articulate a strong reason for wanting to attend law school, anything is possible.

It seems that Harvard is more numbers based, so I'd leave that out. But since op is likely to get a lot of fee waivers because of the lsat, it would be worth it to throw apps at Yale and Stanford.
Fee waivers make all applications worthwhile (I applied to Yale for that reason).
It is a fact though, that the lowest GPA Yale accepted last year was a 3.38. That includes URM candidates.

I'm a 180, 3.4 URM that was rejected from Yale, so I have that experiential data to offer to OP with a GPA a full 1.0 below mine. AA males have the best "bump" per se, but certain data demonstrates that floors do exist.

I think HYS are very likely out. I think that Georgetown, or UVA ED would be a very good idea for this candidate; people on TLS tend do overestimate URM bump, and I don't want OP to miss out on an awesome T-14 school simply because OP was given overly positive estimates of his/her chances.
I'm just trying to look out for OP.

Re: URM Chances 173 LSAT

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:42 am
by DreamsInDigital
NikaneOkie wrote:
DreamsInDigital wrote:
NikaneOkie wrote:
JamMasterJ wrote:
GPA floors apply to everyone.
YHS are all out. But, you should think of applying, and being ready to ride out some WLs, at all other schools.
Also, if at all possible, take online or summer courses and pad your GPA.
While it is good to give people realistic expectations, I think Yale and Stanford at least can and do take extraordinary applicants...
Fee waivers make all applications worthwhile (I applied to Yale for that reason).
It is a fact though, that the lowest GPA Yale accepted last year was a 3.38. That includes URM candidates.
Legit. I think we agree, It is pretty unlikely that OP will get into Yale or Stanford, but since he probably won't pay for most of his other applications the 200 dollars for YS would be worth it.