3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot Forum
- Cavgirl
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3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Need honest advice on what to shoot for regarding my LSAT score to have a chance at T14. Obviously, I will be aiming for 180, but need some thoughts on a respectable score. Taking the LSAT in June and applying for 2012.
Some info: (I figure some might be held against me, i.e. age.)
3.87GPA (poli sci maj/chem minor)
ROTC
37 yo female
Combat veteran / helo pilot
Bronze Star
Air Medal
Purple Heart
disabled husband
two kids
Took LSAT in 2005 and got a 168 but can honestly say, I didn't study for it as I was in the process of my discharge and having severe medical issues at the time. Not an excuse, just the truth.
Also, I assume some schools are more vet-friendly than others. Any insights?
Your time is much appreciated.
Some info: (I figure some might be held against me, i.e. age.)
3.87GPA (poli sci maj/chem minor)
ROTC
37 yo female
Combat veteran / helo pilot
Bronze Star
Air Medal
Purple Heart
disabled husband
two kids
Took LSAT in 2005 and got a 168 but can honestly say, I didn't study for it as I was in the process of my discharge and having severe medical issues at the time. Not an excuse, just the truth.
Also, I assume some schools are more vet-friendly than others. Any insights?
Your time is much appreciated.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
you're clearly a non-traditional applicant so it's hard to say.
military experience is, according to TLS, a pretty solid soft. but then again also a soft. but if you were to say that your age is held against you, i would say that your military ex washes that away
i suggest finding others who are older w/ military ex and see what they have to say. also peruse lawschoolnumbers.com for similar situations.
a 168 starting is solid. i say just do the best you can--if you can break 172, you're pretty definite in getting T14
military experience is, according to TLS, a pretty solid soft. but then again also a soft. but if you were to say that your age is held against you, i would say that your military ex washes that away
i suggest finding others who are older w/ military ex and see what they have to say. also peruse lawschoolnumbers.com for similar situations.
a 168 starting is solid. i say just do the best you can--if you can break 172, you're pretty definite in getting T14
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
170+ to get in to multiple T-14 schools. 173+ for the opportunity to get substantial scholarships. Best of luck.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Honestly, with a 168 and that GPA + softs you could probably crack the T14 (Cornell, maybe Mich), but a 170 would put you in really good shape for scholarships at the bottom T14. I would shoot as high as you can. If you got a 168 with little studying, you can probably kill it with solid studying.
Thanks for your service and good luck!
Thanks for your service and good luck!
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Cornell should be no problem with your current stats. Increase the LSAT and Cornell will become your safety and you should have no problem with the T10.
I can't speak for the other T14, but Cornell is veteran friendly, even though there are not that many of us here (2 1Ls, 1 2L, and a couple 3Ls). Last Veterans Day, the vets were given a bar tab to hang out and tell old stories. Also, the school does full Yellow Ribbon so if you are eligible for Chapter 33 benefits, you should be able to get all expenses covered from that alone.
I can't speak for the other T14, but Cornell is veteran friendly, even though there are not that many of us here (2 1Ls, 1 2L, and a couple 3Ls). Last Veterans Day, the vets were given a bar tab to hang out and tell old stories. Also, the school does full Yellow Ribbon so if you are eligible for Chapter 33 benefits, you should be able to get all expenses covered from that alone.
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- jtemp320
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
I think with your softs you will crack the lower T14 with what you have now (certainly Cornell, maybe Michigan, UVA if you ED) but if you break 170 you will get multiple T14. But do the best you can above 172 you will probably get CCN and $ at lower T14tourdeforcex wrote:you're clearly a non-traditional applicant so it's hard to say.
military experience is, according to TLS, a pretty solid soft. but then again also a soft. but if you were to say that your age is held against you, i would say that your military ex washes that away
i suggest finding others who are older w/ military ex and see what they have to say. also peruse lawschoolnumbers.com for similar situations.
a 168 starting is solid. i say just do the best you can--if you can break 172, you're pretty definite in getting T14
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Good to know. Definitely eligible for Yellow Ribbon and Chapt 33 as I am rated 100% disabled, permanent, service-connected. Wherever I am lucky enough to go, it will be great to come out of law school debt-free. I am a California resident, so if I can get into Boalt, free ride with Chapt 33 alone.CyLaw wrote:Cornell should be no problem with your current stats. Increase the LSAT and Cornell will become your safety and you should have no problem with the T10.
I can't speak for the other T14, but Cornell is veteran friendly, even though there are not that many of us here (2 1Ls, 1 2L, and a couple 3Ls). Last Veterans Day, the vets were given a bar tab to hang out and tell old stories. Also, the school does full Yellow Ribbon so if you are eligible for Chapter 33 benefits, you should be able to get all expenses covered from that alone.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
With a 168 and your current profile I believe you will already have a very strong shot of getting into more than one T14.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
What branch did you serve in? I am prior Navy.
- Knock
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I think the 168 has expired by now? Since they are only valid for 5 years. But yeah, I'd bet you'd get Boalt with a 167/168, if that's your top choice. Hell, I bet you'd have a pretty decent shot at Stanford with a 168.jtemp320 wrote:I think with your softs you will crack the lower T14 with what you have now (certainly Cornell, maybe Michigan, UVA if you ED) but if you break 170 you will get multiple T14. But do the best you can above 172 you will probably get CCN and $ at lower T14tourdeforcex wrote:you're clearly a non-traditional applicant so it's hard to say.
military experience is, according to TLS, a pretty solid soft. but then again also a soft. but if you were to say that your age is held against you, i would say that your military ex washes that away
i suggest finding others who are older w/ military ex and see what they have to say. also peruse lawschoolnumbers.com for similar situations.
a 168 starting is solid. i say just do the best you can--if you can break 172, you're pretty definite in getting T14
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
ArmyCP2323 wrote:What branch did you serve in? I am prior Navy.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Yes, the 168 has expired. Must retake.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
With a 3.87/168 Boalt is very possible with good softs, but yeah, the old LSAT score should be invalid by now.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Thank you for your service and a 170+ will open a lot of doors in the T14. Having already scored a 168 under outside pressure, I think you have a very good shot at breaking 170 with extensive prep.
Fwiw, I had a 172 and a GPA a little under yours. I got into Berk despite not having a distinguished history like yours
Fwiw, I had a 172 and a GPA a little under yours. I got into Berk despite not having a distinguished history like yours
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
maybe I missed this somewhere, but has OP said or anyone asked about URM status?
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
There are quite a few veterans here at Boalt (5+ that I personally know). In fact, I think that there is someone your age who had just gotten out as a military pilot who is here now.
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No school gives a shit about URM's with respect to disabilities.
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- Rotor
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Journeybound--not sure who you are, but I think you are talking about me here. and thank you for thinking I'm only OP's ageJourneybound wrote:There are quite a few veterans here at Boalt (5+ that I personally know). In fact, I think that there is someone your age who had just gotten out as a military pilot who is here now.
OP you are in great shape assuming repeat performance or greater on the LSAT. FWIW, I was older than you when I arrived (with lesser numbers than yours to boot).Feel free to PM me if you have specific questions about Boalt, vets, nontrads, etc. (In case you couldn't tell by my TLS name, I was a helo guy-- Navy.)
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I'm notBlueDiamond wrote:maybe I missed this somewhere, but has OP said or anyone asked about URM status?
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
People with similar stats and softs have been accepted to Stanford, PM me for info. Don't set your sights too low. Your LSAT is likely invalid by now (I think they time out after 5 years?) but if you can repeat or raise it I predict a good cycle
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Apply to Harvard, Yale, wherever you want to go. If they don't accept you, it would be their loss that they don't want a leader on their campus. I really wouldn't get too caught up with the LSAT (which yours is actually pretty phenomenal). LSAT scores are for career students who really haven't proved they can work yet, and so they need some sort of filter for the 8,000 applications or so, all with a 3.8 GPA in poly sci. Your GPA is solid; you're a damn war hero; you have strong family values. You clearly belong wherever you want to be.
I am an OIF guy as well--was a medic with the Marines. I had a great GPA; but, to say I blew the LSAT would be an understatement. I got into a decent tier one school--to my complete and utter surprise. You are above 90th percentile. I seriously wouldn't bother taking that thing again. Whip on a strong personal statement. Get some serious letter of recs. You're golden.
I am an OIF guy as well--was a medic with the Marines. I had a great GPA; but, to say I blew the LSAT would be an understatement. I got into a decent tier one school--to my complete and utter surprise. You are above 90th percentile. I seriously wouldn't bother taking that thing again. Whip on a strong personal statement. Get some serious letter of recs. You're golden.
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- Knock
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Her score is expired, she has to retake.boat343 wrote:Apply to Harvard, Yale, wherever you want to go. If they don't accept you, it would be their loss that they don't want a leader on their campus. I really wouldn't get too caught up with the LSAT (which yours is actually pretty phenomenal). LSAT scores are for career students who really haven't proved they can work yet, and so they need some sort of filter for the 8,000 applications or so, all with a 3.8 GPA in poly sci. Your GPA is solid; you're a damn war hero; you have strong family values. You clearly belong wherever you want to be.
I am an OIF guy as well--was a medic with the Marines. I had a great GPA; but, to say I blew the LSAT would be an understatement. I got into a decent tier one school--to my complete and utter surprise. You are above 90th percentile. I seriously wouldn't bother taking that thing again. Whip on a strong personal statement. Get some serious letter of recs. You're golden.
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
I think this is pessimistic. I got solid schollys all through the T14 and accepted to T6 w/ a 169 and lower GPA and worse softs.akili wrote:Honestly, with a 168 and that GPA + softs you could probably crack the T14 (Cornell, maybe Mich), but a 170 would put you in really good shape for scholarships at the bottom T14. I would shoot as high as you can. If you got a 168 with little studying, you can probably kill it with solid studying.
Thanks for your service and good luck!
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Re: 3.87GPA / Female Combat Veteran/Pilot
Oh, I didn't see that it had expired. Well, then retake that bad boy and nail it!
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why did you have say thatCavgirl wrote: Took LSAT in 2005 and got a 168 but can honestly say, I didn't study for it as I was in the process of my discharge and having severe medical issues at the time. Not an excuse, just the truth.
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