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Odds at U Chicago ED?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:29 pm

Admit
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32%
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18%
WL In
8
24%
WL Out
9
26%
 
Total votes: 34

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by chicoalto0649 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:35 pm

Zero to 5%

Ever think about Northwestern?

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by chicoalto0649 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:37 pm

drbarry987 wrote:168 on Feb LSAT. I'm retaking in June but I'm not sure how much more I can honestly improve. Did all PTs from 40 on strictly timed, LGB, and LRB 2X each. Nevertheless, Imma give it one more go. Advanced linear games/ combo games and RC are my weaknesses. Can consistently get -1 or -2 on all LR sections and have in and out games on lock.

Barring an improvement- I'm planning on EDing to Chi very early next cycle.

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3.95 from Berkeley/Michigan in History, Phi Beta Kappa
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Worked 15hrs/week during college
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Moderate/decent ties to Los Angeles and Chicago.
Very strong ties to SF/SV.


I'm willing to work anywhere including NYC, but my preferred market is LA....well, it was before I came across some of the "LA was a bloodbath this OCI" threads. I'm most concerned with doing everything I can to not strike out of BigLaw at OCI.

I'm not sure if ED to Chi is the right play. Should I be more conservative and use ED at MVP instead to hedge my bets against striking out of the T10?

Long time lurker and first time poster. Thanks in advance for your help, TLS!

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by drbarry987 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:42 pm

lol thx bro.

So- given it sounds like I'm basically out at Chi even ED, if you were me would you ED to one of MVP to minimize striking out of t10?

I'd love to go to Berkeley but I hear they are sort of a blackbox when it comes to admissions.

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Post by chicoalto0649 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:49 pm

drbarry987 wrote:lol thx bro.

So- given it sounds like I'm basically out at Chi even ED, if you were me would you ED to one of MVP to minimize striking out of t10?

I'd love to go to Berkeley but I hear they are sort of a blackbox when it comes to admissions.
You want UCHI but you don't give Northwestern any thought? Id say NW is just as good a match as MVP. If not better. NW grads are the shit.

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Post by kapital98 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:52 pm

Have you looked at lawschoolpredictor?

According to that site you are above 28% of Yale's class, 24% Harvard, ~40-50% from Stanford to NYU, and practically a lock for everywhere else.

Why are you going to ED at Chicago? The only reason you should do that is if you're set on Chicago and don't mind receiving little/no merit aid.

You have a shot at every law school in the country. Don't ED at Chicago unless you CAN'T go anywhere else. You can always use Northwestern as a back-up plan.
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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by kapital98 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:52 pm

chicoalto0649 is either trolling or being an extreme elitist.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by Patriot1208 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:03 pm

kapital98 wrote:Have you looked at lawschoolpredictor?

According to that site you are above 28% of Yale's class, 24% Harvard, ~40-50% from Stanford to NYU, and practically a lock for everywhere else.

Why are you going to ED at Chicago? The only reason you should do that is if you're set on Chicago and don't mind receiving little/no merit aid.

You have a shot at every law school in the country. Don't ED at Chicago unless you CAN'T go anywhere else. You can always use Northwestern as a back-up plan.
Lol, law school predictor is wrong. No, OP does not have a good chance at ccn.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by TheFactor » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:33 am

kapital98 wrote:According to that site you are above 28% of Yale's class, 24% Harvard, ~40-50% from Stanford to NYU
Those are URMs.

And no, OP is not a lock everywhere else. Nice try, though.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by drbarry987 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:08 am

Ty for the candid advice. Quick follow up Q then-

I have a Cancel (June 10)- felt sick morning of test

and this 168 (Feb 10).


PT avg was ~169 with a high of 173 (pt 58) so I didn't really underperform on test day, but I'm almost certain I scored -4 or -5 on the Feb AR section.

Given that my LR is a lock (-2/-1 per section >90% of the time) do you think it is worth it to retake? I have the time and drive to make copies of all PTs from 2005 to present and do them each 3X strictly timed, while doing a few LR/RC sections a week to stay fresh.

Question is- does the potential benefit of having a (slightly) higher third score (C/168/169-171) outweigh the risk of a) scoring lower during my 3rd LSAT sitting or b) knowing I botched a game and cancelling--- thus putting me at (C/168/C)?

I know most/all of MVP takes the highest and Chi says it does too, but just wanted some quick TLS wisdom.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by Patriot1208 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:17 am

With your GPA, if I performed below my PT's and felt I could definitely do better, i'd retake.

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Post by duckmoney » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:21 am

I think you have a very good shot if you can do well on the rest of your application. Someone with identical numbers got in Ed this year. My numbers are just slightly better and I got in rd. That said, if you can bring your score up 3 or 4 points you're a lock and have a good shot at scholarship.

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Post by Jack Smirks » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:22 am

If you don't ED I think you're probably WL-out.

ED you might have a chance.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:26 am

kapital98 wrote:Have you looked at lawschoolpredictor?

According to that site you are above 28% of Yale's class, 24% Harvard, ~40-50% from Stanford to NYU, and practically a lock for everywhere else.

Why are you going to ED at Chicago? The only reason you should do that is if you're set on Chicago and don't mind receiving little/no merit aid.

You have a shot at every law school in the country. Don't ED at Chicago unless you CAN'T go anywhere else. You can always use Northwestern as a back-up plan.
This is just so wrong. So wrong.

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Post by paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:28 am

duckmoney wrote:I think you have a very good shot if you can do well on the rest of your application. Someone with identical numbers got in Ed this year. My numbers are just slightly better and I got in rd. That said, if you can bring your score up 3 or 4 points you're a lock and have a good shot at scholarship.
Not to call you out or anything, but I have seen you on LSN and your acceptances don't really follow your numbers like the norm. Are you sure there's not some crazy soft or URM status you are withholding right now?

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Post by xcountryjunkie » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:28 am

chicoalto0649 wrote:
drbarry987 wrote:lol thx bro.

So- given it sounds like I'm basically out at Chi even ED, if you were me would you ED to one of MVP to minimize striking out of t10?

I'd love to go to Berkeley but I hear they are sort of a blackbox when it comes to admissions.
You want UCHI but you don't give Northwestern any thought? Id say NW is just as good a match as MVP. If not better. NW grads are the shit.
No one who has ever gone to Northwestern calls it "NW" -- it's "NU"

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Post by paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:30 am

kapital98 wrote:chicoalto0649 is either trolling or being an extreme elitist.
Also wrong. Maybe the latter but at least he is giving a closer estimation to reality than you are.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:38 am

drbarry987 wrote:lol thx bro.

So- given it sounds like I'm basically out at Chi even ED, if you were me would you ED to one of MVP to minimize striking out of t10?

I'd love to go to Berkeley but I hear they are sort of a blackbox when it comes to admissions.
I'd ED to Penn personally. You are a lock at UVA and might get into Michigan too, but Penn sounds more like a reasonable reach for you. Though I've seen people with exactly your #s on LSN get held/rejected at Penn ED, so it is by no means a lock even there

UVA ED is your only t10 lock due to your very high GPA and LSAT between their 25-50.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by LLB2JD » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:50 am

paulinaporizkova wrote:
drbarry987 wrote:lol thx bro.

So- given it sounds like I'm basically out at Chi even ED, if you were me would you ED to one of MVP to minimize striking out of t10?

I'd love to go to Berkeley but I hear they are sort of a blackbox when it comes to admissions.
I'd ED to Penn personally. You are a lock at UVA and might get into Michigan too, but Penn sounds more like a reasonable reach for you. Though I've seen people with exactly your #s on LSN get held/rejected at Penn ED, so it is by no means a lock even there

UVA ED is your only t10 lock due to your very high GPA and LSAT between their 25-50.
And maybe Berkeley. They love high GPAs

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Post by paulinaporizkova » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:52 am

LLB2JD wrote:
paulinaporizkova wrote:
drbarry987 wrote:lol thx bro.

So- given it sounds like I'm basically out at Chi even ED, if you were me would you ED to one of MVP to minimize striking out of t10?

I'd love to go to Berkeley but I hear they are sort of a blackbox when it comes to admissions.
I'd ED to Penn personally. You are a lock at UVA and might get into Michigan too, but Penn sounds more like a reasonable reach for you. Though I've seen people with exactly your #s on LSN get held/rejected at Penn ED, so it is by no means a lock even there

UVA ED is your only t10 lock due to your very high GPA and LSAT between their 25-50.
And maybe Berkeley. They love high GPAs
nowhere near a lock though. this guy would still need some great softs for berk

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by trudat15 » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:05 pm

ED chicago. You have a shot. I think another got in ED with yours or similar numbers (check the ED thread on Acceptances). If you dont get in, you could always change your UVa app to ED, since they dont have an ED deadline.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by profizzle » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:45 pm

OP..ED to Chi. You have a chance.
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Post by neonx » Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:47 pm

Do not ED... is my advice.

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Re: Odds at UChi ED next cycle? 3.95/168

Post by lawyerwannabe » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:15 pm

168/3.91 ED applicant to UChi. Rejected.

I personally think you are WL/rejected. One more pt on the LSAT = in. 4.0+ GPA = in. Tough spot.

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