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3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:18 pm
by annab
I also worked all 6 years I was in college. Do I have a chance of getting into a top 20 school?

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:20 pm
by Xnegd
annab wrote:I also worked all 6 years I was in college. Do I have a chance of getting into a top 20 school?
Unless URM, no. I have the same stats almost, and spent a full year making my PS perfect, and I'm being shot down left & right.

It's all stats for Law School.......

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:21 pm
by annab
I am a female and I make no money...does that count?

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:22 pm
by FuManChusco
annab wrote:I also worked all 6 years I was in college. Do I have a chance of getting into a top 20 school?
3.65/163 isn't getting T20. MBA is a soft and that doesn't really count as WE. Sorry dude.

Edit: sorry dudette

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:30 pm
by annab
To FuManChusco:

Does work experience help?

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:34 pm
by krad
annab wrote:To FuManChusco:

Does work experience help?
Sadly not enough to make up for your LSAT :(

WE helps for NU with a higher LSAT.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:37 pm
by FuManChusco
krad wrote:
annab wrote:To FuManChusco:

Does work experience help?
Sadly not enough to make up for your LSAT :(

WE helps for NU with a higher LSAT.
True, but that only includes full time post-grad. Working during school is worth nearly nothing.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:07 pm
by Patriot1208
the age old TLS answer, you need to retake.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:57 pm
by krad
FuManChusco wrote:
krad wrote:
annab wrote:To FuManChusco:

Does work experience help?
Sadly not enough to make up for your LSAT :(

WE helps for NU with a higher LSAT.
True, but that only includes full time post-grad. Working during school is worth nearly nothing.
Ah whoops, missed that the WE was in college.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:13 pm
by Total Litigator
Where is the MBA from?

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:27 pm
by Patriot1208
Total Litigator wrote:Where is the MBA from?
she makes no money, so......

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:34 pm
by CanadianWolf
Chance at USC, WashUStL & GWU of the Top 20.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:34 pm
by FuManChusco
Patriot1208 wrote:
Total Litigator wrote:Where is the MBA from?
she makes no money, so......
ouch...

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:38 pm
by FuManChusco
CanadianWolf wrote:Chance at USC, WashUStL & GWU of the Top 20.
OP is likely out at all of those. last year, only one person got into any of those schools within OP's range of numbers on LSN. It was a girl who had a 3.6x GPA, but had eight surgeries early on in college and had a 4.0 every semester after the surgeries. I seriously doubt OP gets into any of those schools with a 163.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:39 pm
by CanadianWolf
LSN is not comprehensive as it represents only a very small percentage of applicants. Most law school applicants probably do not know that LSN exists.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:42 pm
by Patriot1208
CanadianWolf wrote:LSN is not comprehensive as it represents only a very small percentage of applicants.
I hate when people make this argument, sure, it's not comprehensive, but it's pretty damn accurate. Sure, OP has a chance at those schools, but that chance is SLIM.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:43 pm
by CanadianWolf
You hate it when people argue facts ?

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:46 pm
by Patriot1208
CanadianWolf wrote:You hate it when people argue facts ?
LULZ

Don't act stupid. I hate it when people say that LSN is a small sample as part of an argument about whether or not a person has a chance at a certain school. Because, that isn't really relevant. Generally, if you are out according to LSN, you are out IRL. LSN is pretty damn accurate for the vast majority of applicants. Trying to discredit that to make inferences about someones chance, which is backed by zero evidence, is just stupid.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:48 pm
by Total Litigator
Canadian Wolf - How bout you actually make YOUR argument. 3.65 163 non-URM with an unextraordinary MBA is not going to get you top 30, and definitely not top 20... I'm sure everyone is wondering what your angle is.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:53 pm
by CanadianWolf
My angle ? The OP should apply. According to the above advice, OP should just type his numbers into LSN or lawschoolpredictor.com & abide by that tiny sampling. Why even fill out applications ? If it was that simple, then admissions officers would be replaced by computers & decisions would be instantaneous.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:53 pm
by BrownBears09
Patriot1208 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:LSN is not comprehensive as it represents only a very small percentage of applicants.
I hate when people make this argument, sure, it's not comprehensive, but it's pretty damn accurate. Sure, OP has a chance at those schools, but that chance is SLIM.
You may "hate" it, but you can't deny the small size of the sample pool. For example, Fordham had 8,843 applications last year. On LSN, Fordham had 536 data points. you're telling me this is "pretty damn accurate?"

I'd say it's pretty damn self selecting, and an average metric at best.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:55 pm
by Patriot1208
BrownBears09 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:LSN is not comprehensive as it represents only a very small percentage of applicants.
I hate when people make this argument, sure, it's not comprehensive, but it's pretty damn accurate. Sure, OP has a chance at those schools, but that chance is SLIM.
You may "hate" it, but you can't deny the small size of the sample pool. For example, Fordham had 8,843 applications last year. On LSN, Fordham had 536 data points. you're telling me this is "pretty damn accurate?"

I'd say it's pretty damn self selecting, and an average metric at best.
Refer to previous posts, it isn't the end all, but it is well beyond "average" for the average white applicant.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:57 pm
by BrownBears09
Patriot1208 wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:LSN is not comprehensive as it represents only a very small percentage of applicants.
I hate when people make this argument, sure, it's not comprehensive, but it's pretty damn accurate. Sure, OP has a chance at those schools, but that chance is SLIM.
You may "hate" it, but you can't deny the small size of the sample pool. For example, Fordham had 8,843 applications last year. On LSN, Fordham had 536 data points. you're telling me this is "pretty damn accurate?"

I'd say it's pretty damn self selecting, and an average metric at best.
Refer to previous posts, it isn't the end all, but it is well beyond "average" for the average white applicant.
Refer to previous post. And, nah.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:59 pm
by Total Litigator
... Well it is technically a chance I guess, although we're probably talking less than a 5% chance here so I wouldn't want to get the OP's hopes up. That being said, yeah sure apply, a 5% chance is a 5% chance.

Re: 3.85 gpa for MBA, 3.65 gpa B.S in Business, 163 LSAT

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:59 pm
by Patriot1208
BrownBears09 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:
BrownBears09 wrote:
Patriot1208 wrote:I hate when people make this argument, sure, it's not comprehensive, but it's pretty damn accurate. Sure, OP has a chance at those schools, but that chance is SLIM.
You may "hate" it, but you can't deny the small size of the sample pool. For example, Fordham had 8,843 applications last year. On LSN, Fordham had 536 data points. you're telling me this is "pretty damn accurate?"

I'd say it's pretty damn self selecting, and an average metric at best.
Refer to previous posts, it isn't the end all, but it is well beyond "average" for the average white applicant.
Refer to previous post. And, nah.
lol, offer me something that disproves that statement. I may only have anecdotal evidence, but there is STRONG anecdotal evidence that backs up my point. You just have wishes and dreams, nothing substantial. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that LSN isn't indicative of the average applicants cycle.