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167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:31 pm
by FutureInLaw
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Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:33 pm
by im_blue
None, but you can probably get into every school outside of the T14, Vandy, and UCLA.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:35 pm
by s0ph1e2007
im_blue wrote:None, but you can probably get into every school outside of the T14, Vandy, and UCLA.
with TFA and 4 years WE?

I think you have a shot at one of those places. Esp. NW.
But I think Vandy and UCLA are definitely good calls.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:36 pm
by im_blue
s0ph1e2007 wrote:
im_blue wrote:None, but you can probably get into every school outside of the T14, Vandy, and UCLA.
with TFA and 4 years WE?

I think you have a shot at one of those places. Esp. NW.
But I think Vandy and UCLA are definitely good calls.
Meh 2,000 people do TFA every year, so it's not a soft that will get you past the numbers.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:37 pm
by Grizz
FutureInLaw wrote:Plus TFA, plus 4 yrs. WE.

Chances at...
Northwestern
Boalt
Georgetown
UCLA
Don't be surprise if you don't get into any of these, because you probably won't.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:38 pm
by FuManChusco
s0ph1e2007 wrote:
im_blue wrote:None, but you can probably get into every school outside of the T14, Vandy, and UCLA.
with TFA and 4 years WE?

I think you have a shot at one of those places. Esp. NW.
But I think Vandy and UCLA are definitely good calls.
LSAT is pretty low for NW and GTown. GPA is low for Boalt.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:39 pm
by FutureInLaw
Really? None? How is that being above 25th percentile for LSAT and GPA for all those schools?

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:42 pm
by whymeohgodno
FutureInLaw wrote:Really? None? How is that being above 25th percentile for LSAT and GPA for all those schools?
Well you should realize around 25% are URM admits and the ones who get in with numbers around 25% for GPA/LSAT are usually splitters who have at least one of LSAT/GPA well above median.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:45 pm
by Grizz
whymeohgodno wrote:
FutureInLaw wrote:Really? None? How is that being above 25th percentile for LSAT and GPA for all those schools?
Well you should realize around 25% are URM admits and the ones who get in with numbers around 25% for GPA/LSAT are usually splitters who have at least one of LSAT/GPA well above median.
This. 25%tiles don't mean anything. It's the medians you should be concerned about. As a general rule, above both medians is in, below is out, and above one median and below the other you have a shot. How much of a shot depends on the individual school.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:09 pm
by mr_toad
So is "at median" counted as "above median" in the previous post? I ask also because many of the brief analyses do break it down into over/above. Not meant to be snarky, just very curious as my LSAT is "at median" at a lot of good schools, whereas GPA is below most T-14 medians.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:11 pm
by Grizz
mr_toad wrote:So is "at median" counted as "above median" in the previous post? I ask also because many of the brief analyses do break it down into over/above. Not meant to be snarky, just very curious as my LSAT is "at median" at a lot of good schools, whereas GPA is below most T-14 medians.
Worth the app. YMMV depending on what school it is and how low your GPA is.

Re: 167; 3.7 @ Ivy; Chances at...

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:18 pm
by mr_toad
Sure, my 3.7 is right at the cusp for several (Michigan, Northwestern, etc., or to be fair, Georgetown and directly on Cornell's new one). Was just curious. I'm ok with the black box anyway, my 14 apps are in and I have alternate plans if my favorites don't pan out. Good luck to everyone else!