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3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:25 pm
by bigben5289
I tool the Oct LSAT and got a 150, i was scoring in the high 150's on practice tests but I messed up on RC and got minus 17. I am taking the Dec LSAT but do u think I need to get to get into UM
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:40 pm
by Sandro
-17 on RC? Retake ....
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:47 pm
by bigben5289
I am retaking in Dec, I want to know what I need to get to get into UM.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:04 pm
by Hattori Hanzo
DUUUUUUDE! You have a 3.85 and you even consider a TTT? I usually don't tell everyone to retake but if there's a prime case for a retake, it's you. Even if you bomb the Dec. test, study hard and take it again for next year. You can easily break T14 without too much effort and I say this because at 150 improving your score should be relatively easy.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:07 pm
by DukeCornell
Hattori Hanzo wrote:DUUUUUUDE! You have a 3.85 and you even consider a TTT? I usually don't tell everyone to retake but if there's a prime case for a retake, it's you. Even if you bomb the Dec. test, study hard and take it again for next year. You can easily break T14 without too much effort and I say this because at 150 improving your score should be relatively easy.
I totally agree. Retake!
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:10 pm
by 2011Law
Look at lawschoolnumbers.com You might be able to get in as is, but a 153 would pretty much guarantee it. With a 156 you'll get into UF, which I'd definitely do over UM. Even if you want to work in the 305, I'm pretty sure that being from UF will be as helpful as being from UM. If you're from the sunshine state, then UF costs 15 a year vs UM 40, and if not then you get the in-state tuition starting 2nd year. COL is way lower. If you ever want to work anywhere else inside florida, then the UF diploma will help in leaps and bounds, while with the UM diploma no one will care about much more than a FAMU diploma (or so I hear).
1) Get a 155/156 (so manageable with 4 weeks of studying)
2) go to UF
3) do well in law school
4) ???
5) profit.
Also, if you think you might not want to work in florida the rest of your life, then aim for a 165 or so and crack the t14. damn I wish I had your stats.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:31 pm
by HeavenWood
Sandro777 wrote:-17 on RC? Retake ....
That's a pretty glaring (and most definitely improvable) weakness. What were the breakdowns for your other sections?
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:58 pm
by bigben5289
Test break down
-9 and - 10 on LR
-9 on LG
-16 on RC
how do I improve on RC, I was getting around -8, I guess I messed up on test day.
I am going to take the Dec test. I was usually getting in the high 150 low 160 but I don't know what happened on test day.
Do you guys think that I should write a diversity statement for uf and if so what should I write about?
Thanks
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:10 pm
by thexfactor
dude with a high 150s T14s MIGHT be in play. Dont go to miami.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:36 pm
by reaisan
Hattori Hanzo wrote:DUUUUUUDE! You have a 3.85 and you even consider a TTT? I usually don't tell everyone to retake but if there's a prime case for a retake, it's you. Even if you bomb the Dec. test, study hard and take it again for next year. You can easily break T14 without too much effort and I say this because at 150 improving your score should be relatively easy.
AGREEEED! Please, please, please retake! A few URM with scores in the high 150s to 160 have DEFINATELY gotten into some T20 and even T40 schools.
Look, I am an URM from Miami too, but its not worth the price for the job prospects. Bump what you heard, UM is getting a lot of competition from UF, Emory, UVA, and MORE. Do NOT go in to debt at at TTT when some of those aforementioned schools are within your grasp!
As it stands, you have a shot at UGA, UF and other close-by regional schools. For the love of job prospects, DO NOT GO TO UMiami.
You can even get in to Cornell ED for crying out loud. DO IT RIGHT NOW or by Nov. 15 and then submit your Dec LSAT and a letter of continued interest. PLEASE. If you want more info on where you would be likely to get into as a URM, please PM me.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:40 pm
by whymeohgodno
reaisan wrote:Hattori Hanzo wrote:DUUUUUUDE! You have a 3.85 and you even consider a TTT? I usually don't tell everyone to retake but if there's a prime case for a retake, it's you. Even if you bomb the Dec. test, study hard and take it again for next year. You can easily break T14 without too much effort and I say this because at 150 improving your score should be relatively easy.
AGREEEED! Please, please, please retake! A few URM with scores in the high 150s to 160 have DEFINATELY gotten into some T20 and even T40 schools.
Look, I am an URM from Miami too, but its not worth the price for the job prospects. Bump what you heard, UM is getting a lot of competition from UF, Emory, UVA, and MORE. Do NOT go in to debt at at TTT when some of those aforementioned schools are within your grasp!
As it stands, you have a shot at UGA, UF and other close-by regional schools. For the love of job prospects, DO NOT GO TO UMiami.
You can even get in to Cornell ED for crying out loud. DO IT RIGHT NOW or by Nov. 15 and then submit your Dec LSAT and a letter of continued interest. PLEASE. If you want more info on where you would be likely to get into as a URM, please PM me.
Cornell doesn't have an ED.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:00 pm
by bigben5289
Why is UM so bad guys?
I want to do tax law and UM's tax program is ranked 5 and UF is 2 but i go to UF now and i want to leave for law school, i am sick of UF
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:06 pm
by Hattori Hanzo
bigben5289 wrote:Why is UM so bad guys?
I want to do tax law and UM's tax program is ranked 5 and UF is 2 but i go to UF now and i want to leave for law school, i am sick of UF
Either you're utterly clueless or a flame. I think the latter.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:13 pm
by bigben5289
im serious, why is UM law so bad?
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:31 pm
by reaisan
bigben5289 wrote:im serious, why is UM law so bad?
Who pays $100,000 for a degree from such a lowly-ranked school? If your stats are real, retake and get into a school thats worth the debt.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:44 pm
by DrackedaryMaster
reaisan wrote:bigben5289 wrote:im serious, why is UM law so bad?
Who pays $100,000 for a degree from such a lowly-ranked school? If your stats are real, retake and get into a school thats worth the debt.
sadly +1. Miami is a decent regional school for where it's at, but is nowhere worth paying sticker, especially ITE. OP, there are so many other/better schools you'll be able to get into for free if you just score a few points higher. the debt is bone crushing and the jobs are just not there.
I want tax too and will probably do UF. You my friend, however, could have a great shot of getting in G'town.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:46 pm
by Aqualibrium
reaisan wrote:bigben5289 wrote:im serious, why is UM law so bad?
Who pays $100,000 for a degree from such a lowly-ranked school? If your stats are real, retake and get into a school thats worth the debt.
Sorry, but your posts lead me to believe that you are the rare female douche bag.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:16 am
by reaisan
Aqualibrium wrote:reaisan wrote:bigben5289 wrote:im serious, why is UM law so bad?
Who pays $100,000 for a degree from such a lowly-ranked school? If your stats are real, retake and get into a school thats worth the debt.
Sorry, but your posts lead me to believe that you are the rare female douche bag.
Facts are facts. A 3.85 URM with a 160 can get into T20 easily. Look at other posts by URMs with similar scores, OP. Check LSN. Your future is bright (I'm sure that's mean of me to say, according to Aqua).
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:18 am
by reaisan
DrackedaryMaster wrote:I want tax too and will probably do UF. You my friend, however, could have a great shot of getting in G'town.
Agreed! Don't stop believin'! Hold on to that special feeling and retake. Apply now, PLEASE, but submit the higher score once it's in as well as a letter of continued interest. Reach for the stars!
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:21 am
by bigben5289
DrackedaryMaster
we both want to do tax law. what if i dont get into UF (i am at UF now and i want to leave gainesville) is it then worth going to UM which has the number 5 tax law program in the country.
let me know
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:39 am
by DrackedaryMaster
bigben5289 wrote:DrackedaryMaster
we both want to do tax law. what if i dont get into UF (i am at UF now and i want to leave gainesville) is it then worth going to UM which has the number 5 tax law program in the country.
let me know
No. The consensus you're going to get here is that the specialty rankings are useless. Miami does have a very good tax program, but if it can't get you a high-salaried job ITE, there's still the matter of the debt to take care of. Compare this to the T14 or T20 where if you score higher, there's a good chance you can get into a good school for free and not have to worry about the GPA requirements for keeping money. That is when you have the law school world by the a$$.
If you take the LSAT again and score in the range like everyone here has been telling you (upper 150's/low 160's) UF won't even be a factor to consider. I mention G'Town solely because they do have a strong tax program AND they are a T-14, but if CCNMVPDB came calling (or whatever the order is, you'd be crazy not to consider the others as well).
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:42 am
by sophia.olive
DukeCornell wrote:Hattori Hanzo wrote:DUUUUUUDE! You have a 3.85 and you even consider a TTT? I usually don't tell everyone to retake but if there's a prime case for a retake, it's you. Even if you bomb the Dec. test, study hard and take it again for next year. You can easily break T14 without too much effort and I say this because at 150 improving your score should be relatively easy.
I totally agree. Retake!
+1
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:51 am
by reaisan
DrackedaryMaster wrote:No. The consensus you're going to get here is that the specialty rankings are useless. Miami does have a very good tax program, but if it can't get you a high-salaried job ITE, there's still the matter of the debt to take care of. Compare this to the T14 or T20 where if you score higher, there's a good chance you can get into a good school for free and not have to worry about the GPA requirements for keeping money. That is when you have the law school world by the a$$.
If you take the LSAT again and score in the range like everyone here has been telling you (upper 150's/low 160's) UF won't even be a factor to consider. I mention G'Town solely because they do have a strong tax program AND they are a T-14, but if CCNMVPDB came calling (or whatever the order is, you'd be crazy not to consider the others as well).
PRAISE.
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:46 am
by bigben5289
I have some bad news, so I think that I am not an urm because I'm Hispanic but I'm from Peru not from Puerto Rico or Mexico which is what TLS says you need to be inorder to be an URM. This kinda sucks.
I guess I'll try to hit 160 which will make me a spillter at UF and in at UM and see how much money both schools give me.
Another thing, if I know I want to live and work in south Florida why shouldn't I go to UM
Re: 3.85 URM, chances at Miami
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:08 am
by a tergo lupi
bigben5289 wrote:I have some bad news, so I think that I am not an urm because I'm Hispanic but I'm from Peru not from Puerto Rico or Mexico which is what TLS says you need to be inorder to be an URM. This kinda sucks.
I guess I'll try to hit 160 which will make me a spillter at UF and in at UM and see how much money both schools give me.
Another thing, if I know I want to live and work in south Florida why shouldn't I go to UM
If you score anywhere near 160, you're pretty much in at UM (just because I don't know what your URM boost would be like). UM is awesome for South Florida but from what I've heard FSU/UF have about the same pull (more so UF, it saddens me to say) around those parts, which would mean that you'd be paying 30k+ a year just to end up with the same results you would end up with in-state. Especially if you have connections in South Florida, you should save money (unless you get $ from UM, which I've heard is not easy in the lower numbers) and go to FSU/UF with instate tuition. But if you're willing to foot the bill and take on the 100k debt for the same chance you'd get at UF, it's your prerogative.
Good luck on the December LSAT though, don't let that 3.8 go to waste.