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Hi friends

3.62 GPA and (a disappointing) 169 LSAT on a 3rd take. (Other two LSATs both in the 160-165 range)
non-URM
T20 undergrad

I really love GULC but that is the only place I have visited - should I ED there/would it make a difference?
In reality my dream school is Columbia but I realize that it would take some kind of miracle to get in with my stats, ha.

That being said, which school in the T14 would I be smart to go ED at?

I looked at LSN and it seems Michigan and Cornell are good bets but I'm not sure how my multiple testing history will affect outcomes.

What would you say my chances are at all of the T14 (minus HYS of course)?

thanks you guys

Cornell says they pretty much only look at the higher score if it is at least 2 points higher.

Hope that helps.

oh for real? where did you get that info from? i never heard that...

thnx!

MissLucky wrote:oh for real? where did you get that info from? i never heard that...

thnx!

I'm sorry, I meant at least 3 points higher. And it was from their website.

ah, found it - thanks girl so anyone have ideas on a smart ED for me to go with?

MissLucky wrote:ah, found it - thanks girl so anyone have ideas on a smart ED for me to go with?

Michigan.

Desert Fox wrote:

MissLucky wrote:ah, found it - thanks girl so anyone have ideas on a smart ED for me to go with?

Michigan.

why do you say that? not a strong enough shot regular?

MissLucky wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:

MissLucky wrote:ah, found it - thanks girl so anyone have ideas on a smart ED for me to go with?

Michigan.

why do you say that? not a strong enough shot regular?

We'll you have no shot at the T14 except for Michigan and Cornell. And Cornell has no ED.

Desert Fox wrote:
We'll you have no shot at the T14 except for Michigan and Cornell. And Cornell has no ED.

right I know but if I have a decent chance even without an ED wouldn't it be smart to not waste that ED and throw an ED to some place that is pretty reachy (but that i like better than michigan) for some hope that that would push me in (but where would it make even a slight difference is my question) - i.e. gulc, duke, etc.

MissLucky wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:
We'll you have no shot at the T14 except for Michigan and Cornell. And Cornell has no ED.

right I know but if I have a decent chance even without an ED wouldn't it be smart to not waste that ED and throw an ED to some place that is pretty reachy (but that i like better than michigan) for some hope that that would push me in (but where would it make even a slight difference is my question) - i.e. gulc, duke, etc.

I think you have almost a zero shot at Gulc, Duke, etc even with an Ed.

But you are right about Mich. You've got probably a 75% shot there. Don't ED anywhere. You might get some money at Cornell.

I'm interested in this myself. Same LSAT, 3.7 LSDAS GPA. Same advice? I do have a 2 semesters of grades to factor into my GPA (both will probably be 4.0), would a LOCI at other T14 schools with the improved GPA give me a shot anywhere?

P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread, OP. Good luck with your cycle!

What is your target market? If you have a strong regional school in it as your safety, I guess I could see not EDing. You're so borderline though, I would worry. Work hard on those Mich optional essays.

TheOcho wrote:I'm interested in this myself. Same LSAT, 3.7 LSDAS GPA. Same advice? I do have a 2 semesters of grades to factor into my GPA (both will probably be 4.0), would a LOCI at other T14 schools with the improved GPA give me a shot anywhere?

P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread, OP. Good luck with your cycle!

hmmm well with a GPA over 3.7 i think you have a pretty significant edge over me - you could have a shot at GULC since your GPA would be above their 3.67 median (and that would maybe counteract being 1 point below their LSAT median even thoguh they are known to be more of the LSAT-whore type) and honestly maybe even berkeley (i know you would be slightly below their 3.8 median by the time you get your grades in but your LSAT would be between their median and 75th)

IAFG wrote:What is your target market? If you have a strong regional school in it as your safety, I guess I could see not EDing. You're so borderline though, I would worry. Work hard on those Mich optional essays.

DC and NYC are my target markets. I haven't really thought about safeties yet but maybe GW for DC and Fordham for NYC?
I obviously really only want t14 though. ack.

MissLucky wrote:

IAFG wrote:What is your target market? If you have a strong regional school in it as your safety, I guess I could see not EDing. You're so borderline though, I would worry. Work hard on those Mich optional essays.

DC and NYC are my target markets. I haven't really thought about safeties yet but maybe GW for DC and Fordham for NYC?
I obviously really only want t14 though. ack.

Then ED Mich. I think you will get shut out if you don't and I really doubt you are getting $ at Cornell.

IAFG wrote: Then ED Mich. I think you will get shut out if you don't and I really doubt you are getting $ at Cornell.

hmm, okay. but $ is no issue (i don't mind paying sticker to anywhere in T14) - but you think my shot at Cornell is solid?

I'm not convinced that UM is as much of a sure shot that you seem to think it is for you.

awesomepossum wrote:I'm not convinced that UM is as much of a sure shot that you seem to think it is for you.

yeah, by far it isn't a sure shot (although the LSN sample looks promising). the thing is i don't know if i want to ED thinking well what if i would have gotten in anyways and could have maybe had other options...but apparently nothing else in the t14 looks good for me aside from cornell

Your GPA is below median at every T14, and your LSAT is below median at every T14 besides Michigan/Cornell. Michigan is by far your best bet. It places great in DC/NYC so don't worry.

what do we think about ED-ing Penn? silly? or worth the shot?

MissLucky wrote:what do we think about ED-ing Penn? silly? or worth the shot?

Silly.

rayiner wrote:

MissLucky wrote:what do we think about ED-ing Penn? silly? or worth the shot?

Silly.

lol, honest abe. thanks