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153, 3.98

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:38 pm
by NJcollegestudent
Rutgers-Newark
Rutgers-Camden
Queens CUNY
Seton Hall
Hofstra Law
New York Law School

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:38 pm
by vanwinkle
I know it's not what you want to hear, but is retaking on the table?

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:41 pm
by NJcollegestudent
vanwinkle wrote:I know it's not what you want to hear, but is retaking on the table?
I will not be retaking. I ran my numbers on the predictor, spoke with the admissions people at my top choice, and they were excellent at breaking down the admissions information.

Also, i am going to have to check about 4 answer choices that were erased. I know their machines are good, however, my best attempt to erase may not have been sufficient.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:45 pm
by NJcollegestudent
Would anyone care to take a guess?

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:55 pm
by HeavenWood
In: NYLS, CUNY

Chance: The Rest

It will be tough getting a job from any of those schools ITE, with Rutgers Camden giving you the best chance (but not a great one) for work in Philly. If you don't mind working in Philly, apply to Temple and Villanova, too. But I would definitely suggest retaking.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:57 pm
by serdog
If you already talked to admissions and gotten the break down, and feel like you can get into school you want it sounds like you are fine. I will second that you should retake as it sounds like you would like to work in the New York region.

160 will put Cornell and Fordham in play

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:01 pm
by HeavenWood
serdog wrote:If you already talked to admissions and gotten the break down, and feel like you can get into school you want it sounds like you are fine. I will second that you should retake as it sounds like you would like to work in the New York region.

160 will put Cornell and Fordham in play
Unless you're a URM, 160 will NOT put Cornell and Fordham in play. Cornell and Fordham's medians have both gone up since LSP was last updated. Besides, with such an extreme reverse splitter, LSP becomes hazy at best.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:02 pm
by jwrash
serdog wrote: 160 will put Cornell and Fordham in play
umm....no

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:06 pm
by thexfactor
no fordham pt might be in play with a 160. check lawschoolnumbers.com

Please do your research on the schools you mentioned. Legal hiring is terrible and is a fraction of what it used to be 3 years ago. Even 3 years ago it was bad and people below top 25% at the schools you mentioned would not be able to get a midsize or biglaw job.

Do your research and proceed with caution. The schools you mentioned with exception to rutgers are very expensive and do not have good career statistics. DO not trust the data that they put on their websites. I went to case/pitt/ucinci for my first year and a lot of my friends who were top 25%-1/3 did not get a SINGLE interview at OCI. I also have a couple friends that are on LR there and do not have summer jobs lined up. One is top 5%.

a 3.98 is a terrible thing to waste at NYLS.

Good luck!

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:12 pm
by NJcollegestudent
Thanks for the responses, i really hope to go to Rutgers-Newark. After graduation i plan on perusing a career on the public sector, so big law is really not where i want to go.

I am not a urm, i am South Asian,so i am unsure what category i would fall in.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:16 pm
by Grizz
NJcollegestudent wrote:
vanwinkle wrote:I know it's not what you want to hear, but is retaking on the table?
I will not be retaking. I ran my numbers on the predictor, spoke with the admissions people at my top choice, and they were excellent at breaking down the admissions information.

Also, i am going to have to check about 4 answer choices that were erased. I know their machines are good, however, my best attempt to erase may not have been sufficient.
Retake or don't go. Bad job prospects from these schools.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:22 pm
by streetlight
Don't waste that GPA. Retake.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:26 pm
by ppa840
You aren't a URM. You should retake. I know you don't care for biglaw, but in these times, good public sector jobs aren't a guarantee.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:28 pm
by NJPharmD2011
NJcollegestudent wrote:Thanks for the responses, i really hope to go to Rutgers-Newark. After graduation i plan on perusing a career on the public sector, so big law is really not where i want to go.

I am not a urm, i am South Asian,so i am unsure what category i would fall in.
Are you planning on having RU judge your app based on GPA/LSAT or accomplishments/work experience?

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:38 pm
by Aqualibrium
I don't understand the people who say they don't care about big law, but are ok with taking out massive loans to go to school. I guess IBR is in play even if you work at Radio Shack.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:30 pm
by vanwinkle
thexfactor wrote:no fordham pt might be in play with a 160. check lawschoolnumbers.com
This is rapidly changing now that USNWR factors the numbers of PT students into the rankings. Schools are less flexible with PT programs as a result. It used to be that PT folks didn't factor into numbers at all, so they could take a full PT class worth of people below their medians, but that just doesn't work anymore.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:36 pm
by Columbia Law
thexfactor wrote:no fordham pt might be in play with a 160. check lawschoolnumbers.com
Please do your research before you give TTT information. This isn't true at all. My brother was waitlisted with a 164/3.9.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:57 am
by thexfactor
Columbia Law wrote:
thexfactor wrote:no fordham pt might be in play with a 160. check lawschoolnumbers.com
Please do your research before you give TTT information. This isn't true at all. My brother was waitlisted with a 164/3.9.
before you chew me out. i said MIGHT be... not you are in. Check LSN last cycle and the cycle before. There have been people Wled with 161-162. What makes you think that they wouldn't WL at 160?
Just because your bro was wled with a 164/3.9 doesnt mean that she cant be WLed with a 160-162 and 3.98....

I just think it s worth a shot at 160 and 3.98.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:09 am
by NJcollegestudent
Aqualibrium wrote:I don't understand the people who say they don't care about big law, but are ok with taking out massive loans to go to school. I guess IBR is in play even if you work at Radio Shack.

Its not that we will be such debt, as Rutgers should equate to roughly 70,000 in debt after graduation assuming there are no scholarships. To help those in the public sector, there are some loan forgiveness programs, which are meant to help us transition and stay on the same level playing field as big law in terms of debt. Big Law really is not just my taste, and i would rather spend my legal degree on something in the public sector.

Thank you for the assessments though, and to the poster who asked how i am asking rutgers to judge my application, it is on LSAT and GPA.

Re: 153, 3.98

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:37 am
by Grizz
NJcollegestudent wrote:
Aqualibrium wrote:I don't understand the people who say they don't care about big law, but are ok with taking out massive loans to go to school. I guess IBR is in play even if you work at Radio Shack.

Its not that we will be such debt, as Rutgers should equate to roughly 70,000 in debt after graduation assuming there are no scholarships. To help those in the public sector, there are some loan forgiveness programs, which are meant to help us transition and stay on the same level playing field as big law in terms of debt. Big Law really is not just my taste, and i would rather spend my legal degree on something in the public sector.

Thank you for the assessments though, and to the poster who asked how i am asking rutgers to judge my application, it is on LSAT and GPA.
Public sector jobs are not easy to come by. Many local governments are not hiring. These govt. jobs can also be insanely competitive to get. You may not get a legal job at all.