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No, unless you're a URM.banjobob wrote: i guess my real question is, is there ANY hope for the t14 for someone who's application is impressive and flawless in every other aspect aside from LSAT score?
Nope. Numbers are everything.banjobob wrote:I have a question and i would be very grateful for some knowledgable opinions. I have a very strong GPA, above a 3.9, from a very competitive and top-2 public university (im sure you can narrow it down from that). I am a triple major, have 4 excellent recommendations, a really great personal statement (i worked on it literally for weeks and weeks), 2 summers of work experience in law firms, a serious academic semester abroad.....but a low LSAT (in the 155-160 range)....i have used the law school predictor, I understand my projections....but I just cant imagine that someone with such a strong application minus LSAT can be automatically rejected from the t-14 because of LSAT alone. perhaps someone can explain this to me. i am considering retaking in december, which will make it essentially too late for this cycle...
i guess my real question is, is there ANY hope for the t14 for someone who's application is impressive and flawless in every other aspect aside from LSAT score?
thank you,
bb
you will hear this a thousand times, retake the LSAT. If you are capable of getting a 3.9 with a triple major, you are (hopefully) capable of a 170+ LSAT score. Work for a while and study hard for the test and you will almost certainly be able to get a score that is competitive.banjobob wrote:I have a question and i would be very grateful for some knowledgable opinions. I have a very strong GPA, above a 3.9, from a very competitive and top-2 public university (im sure you can narrow it down from that). I am a triple major, have 4 excellent recommendations, a really great personal statement (i worked on it literally for weeks and weeks), 2 summers of work experience in law firms, a serious academic semester abroad.....but a low LSAT (in the 155-160 range)....i have used the law school predictor, I understand my projections....but I just cant imagine that someone with such a strong application minus LSAT can be automatically rejected from the t-14 because of LSAT alone. perhaps someone can explain this to me. i am considering retaking in december, which will make it essentially too late for this cycle...
i guess my real question is, is there ANY hope for the t14 for someone who's application is impressive and flawless in every other aspect aside from LSAT score?
thank you,
bb
what about berkeley, where GPA matters much more than at other t-14 schools?kehoema2 wrote:So you are asking this question because you are hoping people will say yes there's hope?
25th percentile LSAT is still 163.banjobob wrote:what about berkeley, where GPA matters much more than at other t-14 schools?kehoema2 wrote:So you are asking this question because you are hoping people will say yes there's hope?
Your application isn't nearly as impressive as you seem to think it is. And if you did THAT poorly on your LSAT there is absolutely no chance (0%) if you are white assuming there isn't something spectacular you left out of the OP. You'll need at least a 165-166 to have any chance (still pretty poor) and a 167-168 to have a good chance.banjobob wrote:i understand the general sentiment, but there are instances of admissions officers really seeing something special and making an exception. the odds of it might be below 5%, but i wouldnt classify it as "NO" (read: 0%) chance. also, i am speaking hypothetically here, since i took the october test and felt horribly afterwards. maybe i did better than i thought...who knows!
i appreciate the honest, blunt responses
Did you score terribly on your SAT/ACT and still do really well in undergrad? If you are dead set on applying this cycle and your LSAT comes back that low you should apply with an addendum noting your history of poor standardized testing.banjobob wrote:what about berkeley, where GPA matters much more than at other t-14 schools?kehoema2 wrote:So you are asking this question because you are hoping people will say yes there's hope?
As others have mentioned, there's virtually zero chance for someone with a low LSAT, even with an otherwise impressive and flawless application (which you don't have).banjobob wrote:I just cant imagine that someone with such a strong application minus LSAT can be automatically rejected from the t-14 because of LSAT alone.
i guess my real question is, is there ANY hope for the t14 for someone who's application is impressive and flawless in every other aspect aside from LSAT score?
What is your LSAT score? A 160 opens up many more doors than a 155. Are you still waiting on our score?banjobob wrote:I have a question and i would be very grateful for some knowledgable opinions. I have a very strong GPA, above a 3.9, from a very competitive and top-2 public university (im sure you can narrow it down from that). I am a triple major, have 4 excellent recommendations, a really great personal statement (i worked on it literally for weeks and weeks), 2 summers of work experience in law firms, a serious academic semester abroad.....but a low LSAT (in the 155-160 range)....i have used the law school predictor, I understand my projections....but I just cant imagine that someone with such a strong application minus LSAT can be automatically rejected from the t-14 because of LSAT alone. perhaps someone can explain this to me. i am considering retaking in december, which will make it essentially too late for this cycle...
i guess my real question is, is there ANY hope for the t14 for someone who's application is impressive and flawless in every other aspect aside from LSAT score?
thank you,
bb