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Here's my info-
GPA: 3.85
LSAT: 170

I've heard that the soft stuff doesn't count for much,but just in case it makes a difference, even though it probably won't:

Top 20 School
1 of 2 undergrads chosen for internship at Supreme Court's, Judicial Internship Program
Presidential Fellow w/Center for Study of Presidency and Congress, only one at my school one of 66 nationwide
Published Paper on Jury Nullification
All-Region Attorney and President of Mock Trial Team
Internship w/DOJ
Solid Recs.

No idea what to expect. I feel like my soft stuff is pretty good, but I'm worried my LSAT has taken me out of contention for the top schools. Also, I understand the law school application process is pretty formulaic, so I feel like once they see the 170 I'll be a weak consider at top schools. Darn... should I take LSAT again in December??? thx:):)

You're most likely out at HYS barring a higher LSAT score. But still worth it to apply imo

Your top UG will help you a bit and your softs seem better than average.

I say you have a good shot at anywhere other than HYS. Although NYU/Columbia might be a WL.

out at HY
chance at S, CCN
in at MVP and lower

windowshade4910 wrote:Here's my info-
GPA: 3.85
LSAT: 170

I've heard that the soft stuff doesn't count for much,but just in case it makes a difference, even though it probably won't:

Top 20 School
1 of 2 undergrads chosen for internship at Supreme Court's, Judicial Internship Program
Presidential Fellow w/Center for Study of Presidency and Congress, only one at my school one of 66 nationwide
Published Paper on Jury Nullification
All-Region Attorney and President of Mock Trial Team
Internship w/DOJ
Solid Recs.

No idea what to expect. I feel like my soft stuff is pretty good, but I'm worried my LSAT has taken me out of contention for the top schools. Also, I understand the law school application process is pretty formulaic, so I feel like once they see the 170 I'll be a weak consider at top schools. Darn... should I take LSAT again in December??? thx:):)

I think that this is the first time I've seen softs that I would consider good that aren't work experience of some kind. I'm not saying that they will change the outcome of your cycle, but I'm sure that if you get by the numbers barrier you will be among the strongest candidates.

With regards to chances, +1 to im_blue's post (as always).

hey sorry, but what's CCN and MVP stand for?? google search didn't seem to yield any definitive results... thanks alot!:)

HYS = Harvard, Yale, Stanford (top 3)
CCN = Columbia, Chicago, NYU (top 6)
MVP = Michigan, Virginia, Penn (top 10 along with Berkeley)

Are you still in UG? That could have a bearing on your chances at H and S, since only about 20% of each are straight through.

Beyond that though, even if straight through, apply everywhere. Those are numbers that'll get you a look at every school.

yeah, I'm still in UG. If I'm pretty sure I can get a 172 plus, should I take the LSAT in December and apply late in the cycle?? Or do you think I should just apply now?

im_blue wrote:out at HY
chance at S, CCN
in at MVP and lower

+1. HY are out; S is worth the app. The rest are fair game.

windowshade4910 wrote:yeah, I'm still in UG. If I'm pretty sure I can get a 172 plus, should I take the LSAT in December and apply late in the cycle?? Or do you think I should just apply now?

With a 172 you should definitely get into at least one of CCN, and you'll have a shot at HY with a 173-174.

with those softs I think you've got a good chance anywhere. the SC's Judicial Internship Program is like one of the best internships the country-- I think you'll be fine. congrats on that btw.

Kretzy wrote:Are you still in UG? That could have a bearing on your chances at H and S, since only about 20% of each are straight through.

That's very wrong.