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Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:55 pm
by m3taphysician
Forget it
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:00 pm
by 005618502
m3taphysician wrote:Hey everyone,
I know this is all highly speculative, but I figure I'll give it a shot just for the heck of it.
Looking to apply to: Harvard (legacy), Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Chicago, UPenn, Cornell, and Yeshiva (Cardozo).
Might do ED at NYU/Columbia/Chicago...
Currently in my Junior year at a T20, Philosophy major.
LSAC GPA: 3.90 (4.0 every semester except for Fall of sophomore year)
Major GPA: 3.98
LSAT: figure a 171 (averaging around a 170-173 on practice test; taking it in December.)
ECs:
Philosophy Club - Founder & Director, highly successful club
Healing Spaces Community Service Project - Finance Director, oversaw fundraising efforts for the project and raised over $3,000 myself
College Republicans - Secretary, Elections Delegate at state convention & Treasurer
Investment Group - Analyst
I'm also an Undergraduate Affiliate of a couple of campus organizations.
Should have highly laudatory recommendations.
Thanks!
Your softs are average/good, far from great. Your GPA is great. Come back when you have taken the LSAT. 173+ in anywhere 170 probably in from 7-14 maybe ccn. I wouldnt worry till you have a LSAT score.
Anyone know how much it helps to be a legacy from Harrrrvard? Do your parents donate? (would make a large difference)
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:03 pm
by jcunni5
First, there's saying top 7 is meaningless its T3 T6 (T10) T14
assuming 171 but the above poster is right this is all pretty useless w/o a concrete score
Harvard: out
Stanford: definitely worth a shot totally depends on what they think of your softs
Columbia: WL/out
Chicago: In
NYU: they just got a 172 median so its hard to say WL/in
Penn: in with $ (prolly)
Cornell: in
Yeshiva: full ride +stipen
in terms of ED I'm kind of doubtful you can get into Columbia but Chicago a near definite with ED probably w/o as well, if you like NYU better than Chi that would be the place where an ED could make the difference
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:08 pm
by 005618502
Why Penn and Cornell but no Michigan, Virginia. I would apply to all T14, see who gives you the most money... then go there.
Of course if you get the stated LSAt score
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:09 pm
by dbt
Assuming a 170 since you've been averaging between 170-173. Remember that you really should be averaging around 3 points above whatever you're aiming for, because it's very common for people to drop 2-3 points on test day.
Harvard (legacy) - Out
Stanford - Decent shot
Columbia - Decent shot
NYU - In
Chicago - In
UPenn - In
Cornell - In
Yeshiva (Cardozo) - In
Columbia's numbers have been cranking up so you'd probably need a 171/2+ to have a good shot even with that GPA. Your numbers are fine for Stanford but they have a very low admit rate and tend to accept people with really impressive creds - yours are good but fairly typical for these kinds of applicants.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:15 pm
by m3taphysician
Nine
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:20 pm
by Patriot1208
m3taphysician wrote:for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.
You still aren't getting in without a 173 or better.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:21 pm
by 005618502
m3taphysician wrote:for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.
not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.
UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.
The money donation will help greatly, i hate to say it, but get a 171+ and i think your into HLS. People whos parents donate have gotten in with worse.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:24 pm
by bk1
m3taphysician wrote:not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.
I doubt your class rank would be significantly different whether you want to UMich or Cornell.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:35 pm
by Nom Sawyer
Patriot1208 wrote:m3taphysician wrote:for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.
You still aren't getting in without a 173 or better.
Actually quite a lot of 3.98, 170 ~ 172 types got into HLS this past cycle [it seemed they were focusing on a higher GPA]...
Combine that with legacy/donations (which probably do play a role, even if not as much as UG) and I'd say HLS would be pretty likely.
However this is all speculative... take the LSAT first and then you'll have a much better idea
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:43 pm
by CanadianWolf
His GPA is a 3.9, not a 3.98. Assuming your LSAT score & assuming that you would be one of the top students at Cornell is not reasonable. Do you really believe that Michigan is significantly colder than Cornell ?
Although philosophy majors tend to do well on the LSAT(second highest scoring major after physics/math major), writing tends to be an issue as writing a philosophy paper is much different than writing a law school exam.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:44 pm
by 005618502
CanadianWolf wrote:His GPA is a 3.9, not a 3.98. Assuming your LSAT score & assuming that you would be one of the top students at Cornell is not reasonable. Do you really believe that Michigan is significantly colder than Cornell ?
haha
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:46 pm
by rayiner
Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:50 pm
by 005618502
rayiner wrote:Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.
It is a good school.... not much worse the MVP, so i dont think its to bad
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:50 pm
by NU_Jet55
m3taphysician wrote:Hey everyone,
I know this is all highly speculative, but I figure I'll give it a shot just for the heck of it.
Looking to apply to: Harvard (legacy), Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Chicago, UPenn, Cornell, and Yeshiva (Cardozo).
Might do ED at NYU/Columbia/Chicago...
Currently in my Junior year at a T20, Philosophy major.
LSAC GPA: 3.90 (4.0 every semester except for Fall of sophomore year)
Major GPA: 3.98
LSAT: figure a 171 (averaging around a 170-173 on practice test; taking it in December.)
ECs:
Philosophy Club - Founder & Director, highly successful club
Healing Spaces Community Service Project - Finance Director, oversaw fundraising efforts for the project and raised over $3,000 myself
College Republicans - Secretary, Elections Delegate at state convention & Treasurer
Investment Group - Analyst
I'm also an Undergraduate Affiliate of a couple of campus organizations.
Should have highly laudatory recommendations.
Thanks!
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/
HTH
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:51 pm
by Patriot1208
rayiner wrote:Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.
Well it's not Georgetown, at least.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:51 pm
by tas817
From what I have been told Harvard doesn't give legacy for graduate programs. Could be wrong.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:51 pm
by bk1
rayiner wrote:Egregious pro-Cornell trolling.
Seems like anti-Cornell trolling. "I could do
sooooo much better at Cornell because they are worse."
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:57 pm
by m3taphysician
Nine.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:59 pm
by albusdumbledore
m3taphysician wrote:for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.
not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.
UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.
This post is bleeding pretentiousness...
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:01 pm
by CanadianWolf
Thank you for clearing that up. Now that you have graduated among the top law students at Cornell, which state bars should we assume that you are passing ?
"I visited Cornell once..." and am now among the top law students.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:01 pm
by bk1
albusdumbledore wrote:m3taphysician wrote:for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.
not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.
UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.
This post is bleeding pretentiousness...
Suburbs are for the poor.
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:03 pm
by m3taphysician
bk187 wrote:albusdumbledore wrote:m3taphysician wrote:for consideration...
my father attended HLS and gives them a lot of money. I'm not talking seven figures here, but a large sum.
not interested in going to Mich because it's just too fucking cold haha. I would brave the cold for Chicago, but not Mich. i would do Cornell over Michigan because it's smaller and I feel that if I went to Cornell I would be one of the top students.
UVA is in a suburb, granted a nice suburb, but a suburb nonetheless. I would only do Cornell if I didn't get into a T6. I really want to go to LS in a city.
This post is bleeding pretentiousness...
Suburbs are for the poor.
Nine
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:05 pm
by CanadianWolf
This has to be a flame.
P.S. If you attend law school, even Harvard, you do realize that you will be sitting alongside the common riffraff, don't you ?
Re: Chances at Top 7 + Cornell
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:08 pm
by m3taphysician
CanadianWolf wrote:This has to be a flame.
Nine.