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3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:06 am
by lackadaisy
Not URM (Asian female). GPA is from Harvard though; heavy course load including graduate courses and 5 courses/term. Is there an alma mater bonus? :/

Fairly decent "softs" -- won prestigious prizes early in my undergrad career, ran some student organizations. Later, had a tiny bit of burnout and other more-legitimate personal/family issues last year, am fixed now. (I'm currently a senior and contemplating taking a year off to apply next fall, but might apply this year as well.)

GPA should be about 3.78 by the end of the year, but of course that's still low for HYS. Predicted LSAT score is *not* confirmed as it is just from a number of diagnostics; I'm actually taking the thing in October. Thoughts?

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:15 am
by sundance95
lackadaisy wrote:
GPA should be about 3.78 by the end of the year, but of course that's still low for HYS. Predicted LSAT score is *not* confirmed as it is just from a number of diagnostics; I'm actually taking the thing in October. Thoughts?
Ask in November.

Edited for quotefail.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:15 am
by whymeohgodno
Edit: predicted LSAT score? lol.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:16 am
by sundance95
whymeohgodno wrote:Apply everywhere. Anything other than HYS, I would say you are a lock.
Disregard my previous post. TCR. :mrgreen:

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:17 am
by sundance95
whymeohgodno wrote:Edit: predicted LSAT score? lol.
There it is. :lol:

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:19 am
by thesybarite
My thoughts would be...take the LSAT. From many accounts, my own included, it is very difficult to predict how you will perform on the day. Your gpa isn't bad, and if your LSAT is in fact that high, then I would think you'd have a good shot at a lot of great schools.

I also think taking some time before going to Law School can be helpful. If you do decide to take a year, it would be my advice to involve yourself in project management of some sort. It seems to be something law schools like to see, but just how much it really counts is probably pretty negligible.

Good luck :D

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:28 am
by lackadaisy
Edit: predicted LSAT score? lol.
That's a fair point. I'm still studying in hopes of raising my scores a bit / insuring they are actually that high, but just wanted to have an idea of your thoughts of how my GPA would be seen given a challenging undergrad curriculum :) I mean, clearly I should have been more grade-grubbing in undergrad... sigh

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:29 am
by sundance95
lackadaisy wrote:
Edit: predicted LSAT score? lol.
That's a fair point. I'm still studying in hopes of raising my scores a bit / insuring they are actually that high, but just wanted to have an idea of your thoughts of how my GPA would be seen given a challenging undergrad curriculum :) I mean, clearly I should have been more grade-grubbing in undergrad... sigh
What can you affect now, your UGPA or your LSAT?

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:29 am
by whymeohgodno
lackadaisy wrote:
Edit: predicted LSAT score? lol.
That's a fair point. I'm still studying in hopes of raising my scores a bit / insuring they are actually that high, but just wanted to have an idea of your thoughts of how my GPA would be seen given a challenging undergrad curriculum :) I mean, clearly I should have been more grade-grubbing in undergrad... sigh
Your outlook on law schools definitely isn't bleak. a 3.74 isn't bad...even by T14 standards. It's at or above the median for many of the T14 schools.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:57 am
by im_blue
There's a substantial Harvard UG boost for HLS, so I think you'll have a decent chance with a 173+. Of course, a 3.78 GPA would be much better than a 3.74, so it also depends on when you apply. You should get into CCN with a 171-172.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:41 pm
by dissonance1848
WTF? I guess people with 3.4s and 175s should shoot for CLS, since a few got through, right?

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:51 pm
by Patriot1208
dissonance1848 wrote:Look, OP needs 173+ for a chance at CCN. 175+ makes one of CCN lock. For HYS, you are out at SLS sorry to say, and unless softs are insane, YLS too. For HLS, that GPA is OK, because you are Harvard UG. That said, OP needs at least a 177+ for a real shot at Harvard.
sorry, a 172 would be sufficient for CCN. 173 would likely make OP a lock for at least one.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:54 pm
by Sh@keNb@ke
dissonance1848 wrote:Look, OP needs 173+ for a chance at CCN. 175+ makes one of CCN lock. For HYS, you are out at SLS sorry to say, and unless softs are insane, YLS too. For HLS, that GPA is OK, because you are Harvard UG. That said, OP needs at least a 177+ for a real shot at Harvard.


This is horrible advice don't listen to this guy. Ask your counselor to see the graphs of Harvard UG applicants applying to HLS and you should get a better idea of the LSAT/GPA combo needed to get in.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:52 pm
by Shaggier1
That said, OP needs at least a 177+ for a real shot at Harvard.
Just wanted to echo that this advice is way off. You are in great shape. Only thing to worry about right now is the LSAT, though. Do whatever you can now to make that ~176 a 176 and you will have a wonderful cycle.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:56 pm
by im_blue
dissonance1848 wrote:Look, OP needs 173+ for a chance at CCN. 175+ makes one of CCN lock. For HYS, you are out at SLS sorry to say, and unless softs are insane, YLS too. For HLS, that GPA is OK, because you are Harvard UG. That said, OP needs at least a 177+ for a real shot at Harvard.

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Sh@keNb@ke wrote:This is horrible advice don't listen to this guy. Ask your counselor to see the graphs of Harvard UG applicants applying to HLS and you should get a better idea of the LSAT/GPA combo needed to get in.
+1

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:58 pm
by Patriot1208
There needs to be a thread stickied that says DISSONANCE IS ALWAYS WRONG IN CHANCE ME THREADS.

Re: 3.74 / ~176 / etc

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:08 pm
by sgtgrumbles
Patriot1208 wrote:There needs to be a thread stickied that says DISSONANCE IS ALWAYS WRONG IN CHANCE ME THREADS.
Or the mods should just force him to have an avatar that says, "I'M WITH STUPID ->"