Top Law Schools

Give me odds. LSN isn't nearly as fun as this.

Stats - LSAT - 165, GPA 3.52, Bio major, upward trend, Teach For America

BC
BU
Cornell
Duke
Fordham
GWU
Vanderbilt
UNC
UPenn
UVA
William and Mary

Lets be honest, LSN is a way better predictor then the responses here but just for fun heres a guess:

In: UNC, BU, BC, Fordham

Waitlist: GW, Vandy, Cornell

Out: Duke, Penn


With those numbers but nice but not unremarkable softs the only thing I'd say is that Duke and Penn are unlikely unless you are a URM and you should get into UNC - the rest nothing would surprise me

BC-WL/In
BU-WL/In
Fordham-WL/Out
UNC- In
GW- Out
W&M- In
the rest- not worth the app fee

mfeller2 wrote:BC-WL/In
BU-WL/In
Fordham-WL/Out
UNC- In
GW- Out
W&M- In
the rest- not worth the app fee

No app fee. TFA fee waivers

NOLA Proud wrote:

mfeller2 wrote:BC-WL/In
BU-WL/In
Fordham-WL/Out
UNC- In
GW- Out
W&M- In
the rest- not worth the app fee

No app fee. TFA fee waivers

Oh I see. In that case, there's nothing wrong with applying to Duke, Penn, UVA and maybe Vandy. I just think you have about a 0-5% chance at those. A compelling app might do the trick though. good luck!

NOLA Proud wrote:

mfeller2 wrote:BC-WL/In
BU-WL/In
Fordham-WL/Out
UNC- In
GW- Out
W&M- In
the rest- not worth the app fee

No app fee. TFA fee waivers

Then apply, but you are for sure out at Duke, Penn, UVA, Cornell, and Vandy. Very likely out at GW, and I think BU/BC are quite possibly WL-->out.

If TFA ties into your story and purpose really well, I think you have a good chance at all these schools. Too bad you don't have a couple more LSAT points. T-50 school too?

NOLA Proud wrote:Give me odds. LSN isn't nearly as fun as this.

Stats - LSAT - 165, GPA 3.52, Bio major, upward trend, Teach For America

BC
BU
Cornell
Duke
Fordham
GWU
Vanderbilt
UNC
UPenn
UVA
William and Mary

s0ph1e2007 wrote:If TFA ties into your story and purpose really well, I think you have a good chance at all these schools. Too bad you don't have a couple more LSAT points. T-50 school too?

NOLA Proud wrote:Give me odds. LSN isn't nearly as fun as this.

Stats - LSAT - 165, GPA 3.52, Bio major, upward trend, Teach For America

BC
BU
Cornell
Duke
Fordham
GWU
Vanderbilt
UNC
UPenn
UVA
William and Mary

I'd be shocked if TFA was such a big boost that it put a 3.5/165 into a T10, or even a T20. But I am far from an expert on TFA law school applicants. I think the general consensus is that it is a pretty great soft, but it isn't going to add 4-5 LSAT points, which is what your average applicant would need to have a shot at the T10 with a 3.5

But yeah, I agree... apply if it is free.

I'm not sure what people are smoking, but the responses so far have been unrealistically optimistic.

BC-out
BU-out
Cornell-lol don't waste your $
Duke-u srs?
Fordham-w/l, then you'll get a call in the middle of May saying that you're in
GWU-w/l, show them you're desperate enough and you might have a chance to get in over the summer
Vanderbilt
UNC-in
UPenn-wut?
UVA-...?
William and Mary-see: GW

NU_Jet55 wrote:I'm not sure what people are smoking, but the responses so far have been unrealistically optimistic.

BC-out
BU-out
Cornell-lol don't waste your $
Duke-u srs?
Fordham-w/l, then you'll get a call in the middle of May saying that you're in
GWU-w/l, show them you're desperate enough and you might have a chance to get in over the summer
Vanderbilt
UNC-in
UPenn-wut?
UVA-...?
William and Mary-see: GW

This is more realistic.

How'd you get TFA with your GPA? I thought they were really selective?

With my 166 and slightly worst GPA, I applied to some of the same schools as you and got:

BC - WL/in
BU - WL/out
Cornell - WL/out
Fordham - WL/withdrew
GWU - WL/out
Vanderbilt - rejected
UVA - rejected
UPenn - rejected

So unless TFA really is one of those softs that can make up for the LSAT, it wouldn't count on any of those (though with the free apps, by all means try, just have some safeties or be ready to retake/reapply). Dunno about, Duke, UNC, or William and Mary, but I'd guess out at Duke, decent shot at the other two. Apply early and good luck!

I know quite a few ppl who applied with to law school after doing tfa, and for most, it didn't make or break them. They got in where their numbers said they would. Those who it did help were hella intelligent/insightful/interesting on top of being in tfa. If you're applying to edu programs (which i'm assuming you're not, but fwiw stanford has a great edu leadership program) the boost may be substantial.