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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:17 pm
by dksc2012
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Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:27 pm
by Ambitious
Yeah.

You should look for splitter friendly schools like Northwestern-- especially if you have work experience.

Write an LSAT addendum and say you mis-bubbled or had food poisoning.

Also, you may want to apply to a regional school instead in the area you want to practice. You could get huge amounts of money at some schools. And if you really succeed, you'll be fine.

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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:32 pm
by dksc2012
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Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:35 pm
by Patriot1208
dksc2012 wrote:Thanks for your reply.

I thought about Northwestern too but I have no work experience.
Also I hate this URM shit but I would like to know if it will help me at all.
I am an Asian American...

I would really like to goto
NYU, Chicago, Georgetown, or Cornell (In that order)
Asian is not a URM

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:40 pm
by 20121109
dksc2012 wrote:Also I hate this URM shit but I would like to know if it will help me at all.
LOL

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:47 pm
by Ambitious
Asian will probably either not help, or be a small, but statistically significant, ding.

I think you should check the numbers and see what schools are really brutal with the GPA and which schools are more open to splitters.

Really do take into consideration my advice about regional schools. Some of these schools are great and if you make the top 10-15% of the class and work it, you'll still have good exit options, and if you make the top 5% or so, you could transfer way up if you are not happy with the education.

I think you should really consider what you want to do in life. It's pretty important. Biglaw sounds good on paper, but there are a lot of great jobs you can get without the debt with your numbers. If your parents are helping out with Law School, that's a bit different.

Honestly, your App budget determines a lot. Can you afford to just buy a lot of lotto tickets and see what happens? If so, hit all of them.

If not, you may want to try doing ED at two schools-- what I mean is, do ED, get accept/reject, and if you get the result early enough, ED again.

But definitely apply to a regional school. If you begin your life with 140k+ of debt, then you basically lose about 3 years of straight income to loans if you get biglaw, and probably more if you do not get biglaw.

So what are your career goals? And what was your undergraduate major?

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:19 pm
by Oban
Chicago or Charlottesville?

Choose, then ED UVA, if digned ED Northwestern.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:20 pm
by LoriBelle
OP's LSAT went up 24 points (155 to 179) in only three months? I never call flame, but...oh, come now.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:26 pm
by Precessional
LoriBelle wrote:OP's LSAT went up 24 points (155 to 179) in only three months? I never call flame, but...oh, come now.
Yeah, damn fucking miraculous.

But this Asian-American, aspiration splitter-- with his 154 diag. and 3 months of desperate LSAT cramming-- would much rather hold the OP in motivational light. ^_^

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:30 pm
by dominkay
Oban wrote:Chicago or Charlottesville?

Choose, then ED UVA, if digned ED Northwestern.
You can't ED Northwestern and ED any other school. It's in their ED contract.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:36 pm
by lawls
ED to Georgetown part-time, then switch to full-time. Though UVA is a better school and you should ED there first (your list looks random, tbh).

And my LSAT score went up close to 24 points in 3 months, it can happen. First test might have been with zero/almost zero prep.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:57 pm
by im_blue
If you want a T14, you should take a year off, get some work experience, and ED to Northwestern.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:22 pm
by Oban
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:Chicago or Charlottesville?

Choose, then ED UVA, if digned ED Northwestern.
You can't ED Northwestern and ED any other school. It's in their ED contract.
durr, you ed uva first, and if you dont get in you are free to apply and anywhere

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:29 pm
by dominkay
Oban wrote:
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:Chicago or Charlottesville?

Choose, then ED UVA, if digned ED Northwestern.
You can't ED Northwestern and ED any other school. It's in their ED contract.
durr, you ed uva first, and if you dont get in you are free to apply and anywhere
No, you can't ED Northwestern and any other school in the same cycle, even if you've been rejected. It's in their ED contract.

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cision.pdf

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:32 pm
by Adjudicator
Retake the LSAT. Go for 180.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:12 pm
by Oban
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:Chicago or Charlottesville?

Choose, then ED UVA, if digned ED Northwestern.
You can't ED Northwestern and ED any other school. It's in their ED contract.
durr, you ed uva first, and if you dont get in you are free to apply and anywhere
No, you can't ED Northwestern and any other school in the same cycle, even if you've been rejected. It's in their ED contract.

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cision.pdf
No that means you just can't ED another school while EDing Northwestern. IF you ED UVA and are rejected, it's like starting all over again in terms of ED ability. You can ED anywhere. UVA has a guaranteed 15 day turn around for ED. So you can ED at the begining of the cycle, and if you arent accepted, ED at any other school because you have time to meed the deadline.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:20 pm
by dominkay
Oban wrote:
dominkay wrote:No, you can't ED Northwestern and any other school in the same cycle, even if you've been rejected. It's in their ED contract.

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cision.pdf
No that means you just can't ED another school while EDing Northwestern. IF you ED UVA and are rejected, it's like starting all over again in terms of ED ability. You can ED anywhere. UVA has a guaranteed 15 day turn around for ED. So you can ED at the begining of the cycle, and if you arent accepted, ED at any other school because you have time to meed the deadline.
Wow. How'd you do on the reading comp portion of the LSAT?

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

This is not just about simultaneous EDs. It is about ANY OTHER ED.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:24 pm
by Bumi
"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

This is not just about simultaneous EDs. It is about ANY OTHER ED.
This seems pretty clear to me. If I ED at Georgetown and get rejected, I can't then ED to NU and say that I "have not submitted...an application for ED at any other law school."

Anyone know if any other T14 schools have this clause in their ED contracts? Then again, I suppose if I don't want to go research some contracts then I have no business applying to law school.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:28 pm
by lawschoollll
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:
dominkay wrote:No, you can't ED Northwestern and any other school in the same cycle, even if you've been rejected. It's in their ED contract.

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cision.pdf
No that means you just can't ED another school while EDing Northwestern. IF you ED UVA and are rejected, it's like starting all over again in terms of ED ability. You can ED anywhere. UVA has a guaranteed 15 day turn around for ED. So you can ED at the begining of the cycle, and if you arent accepted, ED at any other school because you have time to meed the deadline.
Wow. How'd you do on the reading comp portion of the LSAT?

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

This is not just about simultaneous EDs. It is about ANY OTHER ED.
You're right about the language, but I can't imagine that's not a semantic oversight on NU's part. Why the hell would they care if you ED'd elsewhere after getting rejected? OP, if you do go this route, just clarify with NU's admissions office. Definitely don't fuck around with ED contracts.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:33 pm
by dominkay
lawschoollll wrote:
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:
dominkay wrote:No, you can't ED Northwestern and any other school in the same cycle, even if you've been rejected. It's in their ED contract.

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cision.pdf
No that means you just can't ED another school while EDing Northwestern. IF you ED UVA and are rejected, it's like starting all over again in terms of ED ability. You can ED anywhere. UVA has a guaranteed 15 day turn around for ED. So you can ED at the begining of the cycle, and if you arent accepted, ED at any other school because you have time to meed the deadline.
Wow. How'd you do on the reading comp portion of the LSAT?

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

This is not just about simultaneous EDs. It is about ANY OTHER ED.
You're right about the language, but I can't imagine that's not a semantic oversight on NU's part. Why the hell would they care if you ED'd elsewhere after getting rejected? OP, if you do go this route, just clarify with NU's admissions office. Definitely don't fuck around with ED contracts.
If there was a "semantic oversight" in a top law school's ED contract, that would be very sad.

I assume they care because they want NU to actually be your top choice.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:24 am
by Bumi
lawschoollll wrote:
dominkay wrote:
Oban wrote:
dominkay wrote:No, you can't ED Northwestern and any other school in the same cycle, even if you've been rejected. It's in their ED contract.

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissi ... cision.pdf
No that means you just can't ED another school while EDing Northwestern. IF you ED UVA and are rejected, it's like starting all over again in terms of ED ability. You can ED anywhere. UVA has a guaranteed 15 day turn around for ED. So you can ED at the begining of the cycle, and if you arent accepted, ED at any other school because you have time to meed the deadline.
Wow. How'd you do on the reading comp portion of the LSAT?

"During this admissions cycle, I have not submitted and will not submit an application for Early Decision at any other law school nor will I enter into an Early Decision agreement with any other law school."

This is not just about simultaneous EDs. It is about ANY OTHER ED.
You're right about the language, but I can't imagine that's not a semantic oversight on NU's part. Why the hell would they care if you ED'd elsewhere after getting rejected? OP, if you do go this route, just clarify with NU's admissions office. Definitely don't fuck around with ED contracts.
I just took a look at NU's explanation of their ED program. It's pretty unambiguous.
An applicant may
not be an Early Decision candidate at more than one school during the same admissions cycle.
I didn't see this language in some other T14 schools I checked.

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:54 am
by iskim88
i think i read the exact same post @ HACKERS website lol... you are Korean right??
anyway, good luck man... hope you get into whatever school you want to get into =]

Re: 2.74GPA/ 179 LSAT please help...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:17 am
by sophia.olive
i know a guy who knows a guy who once ate dinner with a guy who had 170/166/180