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Warbucks wrote:Ended up with what I was hoping for (in re: to the LSAT) and was told to wait until I had an actual score to start asking questions like this but please chance me at the following schools.

Yale
Harvard
Stanford
Columbia/NYU
Chicago
Georgetown.

You're not a lock anywhere but should apply everywhere. I'd expect you to be in at a T14 with a good chance at a T6.

According to LSP: http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=11

Yale: Deny
Harvard: Deny
Stanford: Deny
Columbia/NYU: weak/consider
Chicago: Deny
Georgetown: strong consider

This thread is getting a lot of views but no replies. What gives? Maybe something juicy to sink your teeth into? I really want to go to one of those schools and don't feel like putting up comparable tuition to attend a school I don't wnat to go to. This isn't some newbish "ooh look at those schools' pretty rankings; I want to go there!"

I've actually really taken the time to do research on each school so that I could offer a compelling reason for why I'd like to attend each.

Merr wrote:According to LSP: http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=11

Yale: Deny
Harvard: Deny
Stanford: Deny
Columbia/NYU: Poor/maybe
Chicago: Deny
Georgetown: Probably in

LSP is not very good for extreme splitters or for URMs, and OP is both of those.

Warbucks: Your cycle will be harder to predict than most. I'd recommend applying to all of these schools, plus any others in the T14 that you'd want to go to.

Stanford is almost definitely out, though.

Merr wrote:According to LSP: http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=11

Yale: Deny
Harvard: Deny
Stanford: Deny
Columbia/NYU: weak/consider
Chicago: Deny
Georgetown: strong consider

Yes, I'd imagine LSP would say so.

Bildungsroman wrote:

Merr wrote:According to LSP: http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?page_id=11

Yale: Deny
Harvard: Deny
Stanford: Deny
Columbia/NYU: Poor/maybe
Chicago: Deny
Georgetown: Probably in

LSP is not very good for extreme splitters or for URMs, and OP is both of those.

Warbucks: Your cycle will be harder to predict than most. I'd recommend applying to all of these schools, plus any others in the T14 that you'd want to go to.

Stanford is almost definitely out, though.

By my cycle do you mean the Class of 2013 or extreme splitters that are AA males in general? Probably both but just was wondering what you were referring to specifically.

This person got GULC, and his/her LSAT is 5 points lower than yours: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/slightlystoopid

Its hard to predict splitters. LSN is not a good indicator to see how well you will do. I will say that you are a lock at one Top 14 at least. Northwestern will probably take you. But your LSAT is very high, even for HYS, maybe the fact that you are an URM will be enough to counter the low GPA and you will get in. If money is not an issue, applied broadly within the Top 14, and maybe send an application to some top 25 schools in the region that you will like to practice, maybe they will give you a nice scholly. This will come in handy if for instance you get want Cali and you get rejected from HYS but get into berkeley without or with little money, and then UCLA gives you a ton of money, maybe that will sway you their way. Better to have options.

Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

vespertiliovir wrote:This person got GULC, and his/her LSAT is 5 points lower than yours: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/slightlystoopid

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SuichiKurama wrote:Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.

D Brooks wrote:

vespertiliovir wrote:This person got GULC, and his/her LSAT is 5 points lower than yours: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/slightlystoopid

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Lolz, is this you?

Not that this matters but just curious:

Do most schools (that I mentioned) have to report their Full GPA ranges? If they only had to report their 25% and their 75% then I suppose they could "sneak", lol, me in as long as they made sure at least 75% of their applicants had much much higher GPAs than me. If they had to report their full GPA range I can see why I'd be so fucking unattractive even with a 189.82 on the LSAT. They'd be force to put 2.7-4.33 even when 99.9% of the people there had over 3.5s and what not. But, then again, any school that puts their Full LSAT range at like 167-189.82 I'm certainly applying to and certainly paying sticker. They know how to have a good time even if their GPA was 2.7-4.33, lol.

vespertiliovir wrote:

D Brooks wrote:

vespertiliovir wrote:This person got GULC, and his/her LSAT is 5 points lower than yours: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/slightlystoopid

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Lolz, is this you?

Since I consider myself the expert on AA male splitter cycles I'll dispense the last bit of advice I'll ever give on TLS:

You're in at UVa, likely at Penn and out at Michigan

Whichever one of CCN you ED at will take you.

In at NU and GULC.

Kohinoor wrote:

SuichiKurama wrote:Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.

My fault I actually didn't mean to put Boalt on the list, you're in a rough mood aren't you?

Yale has never accepted anyone below a 3.0 in recent history--you can verify this by looking at their website.

By the way the main thing I'm basing that off of is my undergrad's collection of GPA/LSAT info for students accepted to those schools. My undergrad isn't even close to elite by the way.

Kohinoor wrote:

SuichiKurama wrote:Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.

Kohinoor, make my heart sing with optimism by explaining.

Nobody will be able to accurately predict where you will get in. There just aren't enough cases available (AA male, super-splitter, in last few years) to be able to determine where you will get in. I think LORs, PS/DS, and other softs will play a much larger role in your cycle than most other applicants. It sucks, but nothing you'll hear on this thread will be of much value (then again, not much posted of what is posted on any thread here is of much value ). Apply to schools you are considering, see what happens, good luck.

D Brooks wrote:

vespertiliovir wrote:

D Brooks wrote:

vespertiliovir wrote:This person got GULC, and his/her LSAT is 5 points lower than yours: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/slightlystoopid

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Lolz, is this you?

Since I consider myself the expert on AA male splitter cycles I'll dispense the last bit of advice I'll ever give on TLS:

You're in at UVa, likely at Penn and out at Michigan

Whichever one of CCN you ED at will take you.

In at NU and GULC.

The inference being that I'm not in/denied at the others?

Warbucks wrote:The inference being that I'm not in/denied at the others?

No wonder your LSAT score is so high.

Warbucks wrote:

Kohinoor wrote:

SuichiKurama wrote:Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.

Kohinoor, make my heart sing with optimism by explaining.

Yale seems to be the only school with a hard and fast gpa floor enforced against URMs. They can and will take the 3.6, 174 black guy over you.

Kohinoor wrote:

Warbucks wrote:

Kohinoor wrote:

SuichiKurama wrote:Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.

Kohinoor, make my heart sing with optimism by explaining.

Yale seems to be the only school with a hard and fast gpa floor enforced against URMs. They can and will take the 3.6, 174 black guy over you.

Stanford's website lists the lowest GPA they have taken for the entire class in recent years--it's a 3.1

SuichiKurama wrote:

Kohinoor wrote:

SuichiKurama wrote:Stanford/Yale/Boalt aren't happening. Harvard probably isn't. UVA, Penn, Michigan, Duke and NYU are all likely (UVA is almost certain). NU Cornell and GULC should be locks.

Columbia and Chicago are the one's that are really up in the air. I think EDing to either would make it happen, but I wouldn't ED as you may get a huge scholarship from the likes of UVA, NU, or Cornell.

To be fair, you don't know what you're talking about.

My fault I actually didn't mean to put Boalt on the list, you're in a rough mood aren't you?

Yale has never accepted anyone below a 3.0 in recent history--you can verify this by looking at their website.

By the way the main thing I'm basing that off of is my undergrad's collection of GPA/LSAT info for students accepted to those schools. My undergrad isn't even close to elite by the way.

Sorry if that sounded mean.

Stanford's website lists the lowest GPA they have taken for the entire class in recent years--it's a 3.1

Thus why I'm asking if anyone knows of any backdooring. Or is a school's reported full its absolute floor.

Warbucks wrote:

Stanford's website lists the lowest GPA they have taken for the entire class in recent years--it's a 3.1

Thus why I'm asking if anyone knows of any backdooring. Or is a school's reported full its absolute floor.

Only a few schools even report the entire GPA range (Yale, Stanford, and Chicago), I would hope that they are being honest and there isn't any "backdooring" when they do this!

Either way man you're in a great spot--any way you look at it you will be in at some Top 14 schools with money!