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3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:18 pm
by MillerTime
GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
I have good work experience -- took a semester off to staff a presidential campaign, now an employee in the U.S. Senate (still in undergrad).
What do you think my chances are at the schools listed below? And, are there some others that I should be considering?
Virginia
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Georgetown
George Washington
Boston University
Emory
University of Washington
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:23 pm
by 09042014
evandm wrote:GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
I have good work experience -- took a semester off to staff a presidential campaign, now an employee in the U.S. Senate (still in undergrad).
What do you think my chances are at the schools listed below? And, are there some others that I should be considering?
Virginia
Duke - Pretty damn close to zero percent
Northwestern
Cornell - 50% shot
Georgetown
George Washington In probably with $$$
Boston University In with $
Emory In
University of Washington Decent shot
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:27 pm
by MillerTime
Desert Fox wrote:evandm wrote:GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
I have good work experience -- took a semester off to staff a presidential campaign, now an employee in the U.S. Senate (still in undergrad).
What do you think my chances are at the schools listed below? And, are there some others that I should be considering?
Virginia
Duke - Pretty damn close to zero percent
Northwestern
Cornell - 50% shot
Georgetown
George Washington In probably with $$$
Boston University In with $
Emory In
University of Washington Decent shot
I'm curious, why do you think Cornell is a 50% shot, but no chance at Georgetown. Isn't Cornell ranked higher?
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:30 pm
by 09042014
evandm wrote:Desert Fox wrote:evandm wrote:GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
I have good work experience -- took a semester off to staff a presidential campaign, now an employee in the U.S. Senate (still in undergrad).
What do you think my chances are at the schools listed below? And, are there some others that I should be considering?
Virginia
Duke - Pretty damn close to zero percent
Northwestern
Cornell - 50% shot
Georgetown
George Washington In probably with $$$
Boston University In with $
Emory In
University of Washington Decent shot
I'm curious, why do you think Cornell is a 50% shot, but no chance at Georgetown. Isn't Cornell ranked higher?
Because Gtown has a 170 LSAT median. If they admit you, they lower their GPA and LSAT median. Cornells is 167? I think.
Also definitely throw an app to Michigan. If you really want T14, I'd ED there.
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:41 pm
by mi-chan17
evandm wrote:GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
Virginia - WL/Out
Duke - WL/Out
Northwestern - Out
Cornell - 50/50 WL/In
Georgetown - WL/Out
George Washington - In (possibly with money)
Boston University - In (possibly with money)
Emory - In
University of Washington - In (possibly with money)
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:48 pm
by scribelaw
Not to be harsh, but you don't have "good work experience." You have good internships. Overall, your softs seem average. They won't take you anywhere beyond where your numbers would indicate.
If you'd consider a retake, one or two more points would give you a chance at Georgetown and Virginia ED.
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:38 pm
by MillerTime
scribelaw wrote:Not to be harsh, but you don't have "good work experience." You have good internships. Overall, your softs seem average. They won't take you anywhere beyond where your numbers would indicate.
If you'd consider a retake, one or two more points would give you a chance at Georgetown and Virginia ED.
Actually, they aren't internships. I'm a salary employee and have real work experience. I do think that means something considering I have had jobs that most people don't get until after UG. I'm not saying it will get me in to a good school by itself, but I do think it will help set me apart from the average applicant.
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:08 pm
by pelmen74
Desert Fox wrote:evandm wrote:GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
I have good work experience -- took a semester off to staff a presidential campaign, now an employee in the U.S. Senate (still in undergrad).
What do you think my chances are at the schools listed below? And, are there some others that I should be considering?
Virginia
Duke - Pretty damn close to zero percent
Northwestern
Cornell - 50% shot
Georgetown
George Washington In probably with $$$
Boston University In with $
Emory In
University of Washington Decent shot
DF, why do you think that Gtown is harder to get into than Duke? Of the few people I know who applied to to both schools, it seems that the opposite is true. In fact, Duke seems to care more about GPA than LSAT.
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:17 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
Following the "you must be above at least one median" doesn't apply to everyone.
Not everyone who goes to law school with an LSAT below median has a GPA above median.
With that said, I don't think you're getting into Gtown- maybe if that was a 3.5..
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:06 pm
by im_blue
pelmen74 wrote:Desert Fox wrote:evandm wrote:GPA: 3.4
LSAT: 169
I have good work experience -- took a semester off to staff a presidential campaign, now an employee in the U.S. Senate (still in undergrad).
What do you think my chances are at the schools listed below? And, are there some others that I should be considering?
Virginia
Duke - Pretty damn close to zero percent
Northwestern
Cornell - 50% shot
Georgetown
George Washington In probably with $$$
Boston University In with $
Emory In
University of Washington Decent shot
DF, why do you think that Gtown is harder to get into than Duke? Of the few people I know who applied to to both schools, it seems that the opposite is true. In fact, Duke seems to care more about GPA than LSAT.
Neither school is more selective than the other for all numbers. For example, Duke is much easier to get into if you have a 3.6-3.7/169, while GULC is easier for a 3.8+/168.
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:49 pm
by danidancer
We're nearly numbers twins (I'm 3.45/168, non-URM). I applied to all of those schools this cycle (minus Emory and UW), and then some. My results?
Virginia - reject
Duke - reject
Northwestern - WL
Cornell - Reserve->Accept->Attending
Georgetown - Part time WL
George Washington - In, no money
Boston University - In, $10K/year
Full results on my LSN profile.
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/iwant2go2there
HTH
Re: 3.4/169 -- Good work experience -- Chance at T14?
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:17 pm
by Miracle
You need LSAT of 170+ to be considered. Some of the schools you listed are LSAT hungry-for example Gtown.