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168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:51 pm
by hp7
Hey everyone,

I'm a first-time poster, and I'm wondering what my chances are at T-14 schools. 168 on my LSAT and 3.78 UGPA. These are the schools I am planning on applying to:

ED at Duke
Cornell
Georgetown
UVA
Penn
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
GW
UNC
Michigan (possibly)

I would really appreciate any advice. Thanks!

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:37 am
by marklg89
Hey brother,

Read the sticky up at top, and then check out

lawschoolnumbers.com

lawschoolpredictor.com

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:45 am
by scribelaw
Duke ED is a good call. Your best shots in the T-14 otherwise will be Cornell, Michigan and Georgetown.

No chance at UVA unless you're in-state -- you're below both medians. Also Northwestern would be maybe (still not likely) if you have work experience, no chance if you don't.

If I were you, I'd throw in a few more safeties, such as WUSTL, Notre Dame, BU/BC. If you get shut out of the T14 -- a possibility -- you'll at least have some $$ offers from T20-T30 type schools.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:34 pm
by hp7
Thanks for your help! I will definitely apply to Michigan, add WashU, and probably take out UVA since I'm not in-state (though I might keep it as a reach). Does anyone know what my chances are applying ED to Duke? Maybe someone who had similar numbers? Law school predictor says strong consider so I'm hopeful..

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:39 pm
by verdandi
This was two years ago, but I had similar numbers to you and I got $ from UVA. I'd still apply.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:43 pm
by D-ROCCA
Is the Top 5 public that you attend UMich? If so, and you're a rising senior, I'd maybe apply for the Wolverine Scholars program for UMich law...

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:29 pm
by hp7
verdandi wrote:This was two years ago, but I had similar numbers to you and I got $ from UVA. I'd still apply.
Were you in-state?

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:30 pm
by hp7
D-ROCCA wrote:Is the Top 5 public that you attend UMich? If so, and you're a rising senior, I'd maybe apply for the Wolverine Scholars program for UMich law...
Nope, not UMich

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:35 pm
by romothesavior
hp7 wrote:Hey everyone,

I'm a first-time poster, and I'm wondering what my chances are at T-14 schools. 168 on my LSAT and 3.78 UGPA at a top 5 public university, Asian Indian female. I'm an Anthropology major and Chemistry minor, and I have pretty good extracurriculars. Most of my lower grades are in chemistry/physics/biology courses, and I was wondering if this would help me at all. These are the schools I am planning on applying to:

ED at Duke- WL
Cornell- In
Georgetown- WL
UVA- WL (you should do an ED there)
Penn- Out
Northwestern- Out
Vanderbilt- In w $$
GW- In w $$
UNC- In w $$
Michigan (possibly)- WL/In

I would really appreciate any advice. Thanks!
I am also a 168/3.76. My predictions are included in the quote above.

Unless you have reached your max potential, I'd say retake.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:39 pm
by dominkay
romothesavior wrote:
hp7 wrote:Hey everyone,

I'm a first-time poster, and I'm wondering what my chances are at T-14 schools. 168 on my LSAT and 3.78 UGPA at a top 5 public university, Asian Indian female. I'm an Anthropology major and Chemistry minor, and I have pretty good extracurriculars. Most of my lower grades are in chemistry/physics/biology courses, and I was wondering if this would help me at all. These are the schools I am planning on applying to:

ED at Duke- WL
Cornell- In
Georgetown- WL
UVA- WL (you should do an ED there)
Penn- Out
Northwestern- Out
Vanderbilt- In w $$
GW- In w $$
UNC- In w $$
Michigan (possibly)- WL/In

I would really appreciate any advice. Thanks!
I am also a 168/3.76. My predictions are included in the quote above.

Unless you have reached your max potential, I'd say retake.
I feel like I've read on here 100 times that UVA doesn't take people who are below both medians, even ED. Is that not true?

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:18 pm
by Grizz
ED at UVA is not gonna help. Below both medians.

Same LSAT, hair lower GPA
Duke - WL
UVA - WL
Texas - in, $$
Vandy - in, $$
Emory - in, $$

Got about the same half-tuition ish at Texas, Vandy, and Emory. You should also apply to GULC, Michigan, Cornell. And maybe a few other safeties in a region you want to end up (WUSTL and GW are good).

I'm a pretty firm believer in only HYSCCN being worth the full cost. I don't know what your monetary situation or if you subscribe to that "T14 or bust" nonsense. If you've got "money to blow," I'd ED somewhere. If not, you're getting a lot of money at T20-ish.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:19 pm
by hp7
romothesavior wrote:
hp7 wrote:Hey everyone,

I'm a first-time poster, and I'm wondering what my chances are at T-14 schools. 168 on my LSAT and 3.78 UGPA at a top 5 public university, Asian Indian female. I'm an Anthropology major and Chemistry minor, and I have pretty good extracurriculars. Most of my lower grades are in chemistry/physics/biology courses, and I was wondering if this would help me at all. These are the schools I am planning on applying to:

ED at Duke- WL
Cornell- In
Georgetown- WL
UVA- WL (you should do an ED there)
Penn- Out
Northwestern- Out
Vanderbilt- In w $$
GW- In w $$
UNC- In w $$
Michigan (possibly)- WL/In

I would really appreciate any advice. Thanks!
I am also a 168/3.76. My predictions are included in the quote above.

Unless you have reached your max potential, I'd say retake.
Thanks, do you think an ED at UVA is more helpful than an ED at Duke? I'd actually much rather go to Duke bc I already live in NC and would like to stay for law school. I was expecting this LSAT score (169 was my average), and I'm scared that it will drop if I retake, so that's not really an option for me.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:23 pm
by Grizz
hp7 wrote: Thanks, do you think an ED at UVA is more helpful than an ED at Duke? I'd actually much rather go to Duke bc I already live in NC and would like to stay for law school. I was expecting this LSAT score (169 was my average), and I'm scared that it will drop if I retake, so that's not really an option for me.
ED at UVA is not going to be helpful because you are below both medians. Duke it might help.

If you've got school, etc. going on, not retaking is understandable. 1 point off your PT average is expected. If you're out of school, I'd consider a retake if you think you can do better.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:25 pm
by hp7
rad law wrote:ED at UVA is not gonna help. Below both medians.

Same LSAT, hair lower GPA
Duke - WL
UVA - WL
Texas - in, $$
Vandy - in, $$
Emory - in, $$

Got about the same half-tuition ish at Texas, Vandy, and Emory. You should also apply to GULC, Michigan, Cornell. And maybe a few other safeties in a region you want to end up (WUSTL and GW are good).

I'm a pretty firm believer in only HYSCCN being worth the full cost. I don't know what your monetary situation or if you subscribe to that "T14 or bust" nonsense. If you've got "money to blow," I'd ED somewhere. If not, you're getting a lot of money at T20-ish.
Well Duke is definitely my top choice, so to me it is worth the money. I'm pretty sure I'll be EDing there and hopefully that will give me the extra boost I need to get in. It's nice to know about the possible scholarship offers if Duke doesn't work out though!

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:14 pm
by im_blue
In at Cornell
Out at all other T14 (except maybe Duke)
In at all non-T14

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:14 am
by romothesavior
ED at Michigan is about a 50/50 shot.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:22 am
by Dr. Strangelove
ED at Duke
Cornell
Georgetown
UVA
Penn
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
GW
UNC
Michigan (possibly)

You're borderline at a lot of these schools. Good luck! I'll rank the schools on the list by what I think are your chances at them.

UNC
Cornell
GW
Vanderbilt
Duke
Northwestern
Georgetown
UVA/Michigan
Penn

I think it's possible you could get into every school on your list but not likely.
Best of luck!

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:27 am
by romothesavior
Dr. Strangelove wrote:ED at Duke
Cornell
Georgetown
UVA
Penn
Northwestern
Vanderbilt
GW
UNC
Michigan (possibly)

You're borderline at a lot of these schools. Good luck! I'll rank the schools on the list by what I think are your chances at them.

UNC
Cornell
GW
Vanderbilt
Duke
Northwestern
Georgetown
UVA/Michigan
Penn

I think it's possible you could get into every school on your list but not likely.
Best of luck!
She has a better shot at GW than Cornell, and a much better shot at Michigan than Northwestern or Georgetown.

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:43 am
by hp7
Thanks everyone! I don't think I'll be applying to Northwestern or Penn anymore, but I still plan on applying ED to Duke.

New list:

Duke ED
Cornell
Georgetown
Michigan
UVA
Vanderbilt
GW
WashU
UNC

Re: 168/3.78.. what are my chances?

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:45 am
by Grizz
hp7 wrote:Thanks everyone! I don't think I'll be applying to Northwestern or Penn anymore, but I still plan on applying ED to Duke.

New list:

Duke ED
Cornell
Georgetown
Michigan
UVA
Vanderbilt
GW
WashU
UNC
Looks good.