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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:36 am
by Mike12188
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Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:20 pm
by Mike12188
anyone? :cry:

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:29 pm
by vale1rd
Schools:
BU-In
GW-Probably In
ND-In
WUSTL-Probably In
Cornell-Good Chance
Gtown-slim chance
UVA (ed)-very slim chance
PENN (ed)-no chance

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:31 pm
by rklafehn
If Penn is your dream, then ED there (you have about a 25% chance).
It can never hurt to UVA ED because I heard they have a quick turnaround and it is not binding (maybe 30 - 40 %).
You're a coin flip at Cornell.

I would say your best bet (for possible money, likelihood of acceptance, and still a top school) would be BU.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:34 pm
by am060459
Mike12188 wrote:2. Does a 3.3 look much better to Admissions than a 3.28. I can take a summer class and have an even 3.3 by the time I apply in Sept. but I'm not sure it is worth it
if it doesnt hurt u financially and ur sure of getting an A (or A+) i would take the summer class for sure. every bit helps. plus a 3.3 is a B+ not a 3.28 :)

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:36 pm
by 09042014
Yes applying ED early makes a difference. Everyone above 170 and over 3.0 got in if they applied ED early.

You also have a great shot at Penn ED http://penn.lawschoolnumbers.com/applic ... =3&type=jd

If you want Penn > UVa, ED at Penn. If you fail you can late ED at Uva.

If you want UVA > Penn, ED at UVa, and if you don't get it, you'll have enough time to ED at Penn, since UVA responds in 15 days.

If you don't have a preference, do the UVA one first. Since you get a crack at both.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:37 pm
by 09042014
rklafehn wrote:If Penn is your dream, then ED there (you have about a 25% chance).
It can never hurt to UVA ED because I heard they have a quick turnaround and it is not binding (maybe 30 - 40 %).
You're a coin flip at Cornell.

I would say your best bet (for possible money, likelihood of acceptance, and still a top school) would be BU.
UVA is most certainly binding.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:46 pm
by rklafehn
Ha. Ya it is. My bad.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:52 pm
by Veyron
Desert Fox wrote:Yes applying ED early makes a difference. Everyone above 170 and over 3.0 got in if they applied ED early.

You also have a great shot at Penn ED http://penn.lawschoolnumbers.com/applic ... =3&type=jd

If you want Penn > UVa, ED at Penn. If you fail you can late ED at Uva.

If you want UVA > Penn, ED at UVa, and if you don't get it, you'll have enough time to ED at Penn, since UVA responds in 15 days.

If you don't have a preference, do the UVA one first. Since you get a crack at both.

Errr, the LSAC's official predictor gives him less than a 25% shot at Penn. ED can't help THAT much.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:58 pm
by 09042014
Veyron wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Yes applying ED early makes a difference. Everyone above 170 and over 3.0 got in if they applied ED early.

You also have a great shot at Penn ED http://penn.lawschoolnumbers.com/applic ... =3&type=jd

If you want Penn > UVa, ED at Penn. If you fail you can late ED at Uva.

If you want UVA > Penn, ED at UVa, and if you don't get it, you'll have enough time to ED at Penn, since UVA responds in 15 days.

If you don't have a preference, do the UVA one first. Since you get a crack at both.

Errr, the LSAC's official predictor gives him less than a 25% shot at Penn. ED can't help THAT much.
LSAC's predictor isn't great, and ED at penn is a huge helper with an above median LSAT score.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:00 pm
by Mike12188
Thanks everyone for the replies...but rkl, I'd like to think I have more than a 25% chance, I mean from last years cycle I feel its a 50/50 especially if I apply in Sept/Oct.

DF, all things being equal (markets I want to work in, where I want to spend 3 years of my life, etc.) is Penn that much "better" than UVA. In other words I really would like to attend UVA, I would love to live in Charlottesville, Cost of Living is low and I think its an awesome place. Living in Philly on the other hand I find very unattractive, but would Penn give me a greater chance of landing Biglaw, would it be worth it to stick out Philly for 3 years?

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:06 pm
by rklafehn
ED also appears to help if you have above 75th percentile GPA and a 168 LSAT.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:07 pm
by rklafehn
You probs do. I was going purely on law school predictor 3.0 = )

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:13 pm
by Veyron
Mike12188 wrote:Thanks everyone for the replies...but rkl, I'd like to think I have more than a 25% chance, I mean from last years cycle I feel its a 50/50 especially if I apply in Sept/Oct.

DF, all things being equal (markets I want to work in, where I want to spend 3 years of my life, etc.) is Penn that much "better" than UVA. In other words I really would like to attend UVA, I would love to live in Charlottesville, Cost of Living is low and I think its an awesome place. Living in Philly on the other hand I find very unattractive, but would Penn give me a greater chance of landing Biglaw, would it be worth it to stick out Philly for 3 years?
UVA is better 4 DC but DC is realy fucking hard to land. If I understand my non-Penn Law NYC biglaw source correctly, Penn is superior for NYC biglaw. You pays your $ and you takes your choice.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:30 pm
by dominkay
Veyron wrote:
Mike12188 wrote:Thanks everyone for the replies...but rkl, I'd like to think I have more than a 25% chance, I mean from last years cycle I feel its a 50/50 especially if I apply in Sept/Oct.

DF, all things being equal (markets I want to work in, where I want to spend 3 years of my life, etc.) is Penn that much "better" than UVA. In other words I really would like to attend UVA, I would love to live in Charlottesville, Cost of Living is low and I think its an awesome place. Living in Philly on the other hand I find very unattractive, but would Penn give me a greater chance of landing Biglaw, would it be worth it to stick out Philly for 3 years?
UVA is better 4 DC but DC is realy fucking hard to land. If I understand my non-Penn Law NYC biglaw source correctly, Penn is superior for NYC biglaw. You pays your $ and you takes your choice.
That's funny, I've heard the exact opposite from NYC lawyers: UVA is great for NYC biglaw, and Penn sucks (relatively speaking).

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:32 pm
by rklafehn
Where is Penn good? I mean, it had to place good somewhere. It is a t10 ivey school.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:41 pm
by 09042014
Mike12188 wrote:Thanks everyone for the replies...but rkl, I'd like to think I have more than a 25% chance, I mean from last years cycle I feel its a 50/50 especially if I apply in Sept/Oct.

DF, all things being equal (markets I want to work in, where I want to spend 3 years of my life, etc.) is Penn that much "better" than UVA. In other words I really would like to attend UVA, I would love to live in Charlottesville, Cost of Living is low and I think its an awesome place. Living in Philly on the other hand I find very unattractive, but would Penn give me a greater chance of landing Biglaw, would it be worth it to stick out Philly for 3 years?
For big law in general they are pretty much equal. For NYC big law Penn wins out. But we are talking about very small differences.

If I were you I'd ED at UVA.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:41 pm
by 09042014
rklafehn wrote:Where is Penn good? I mean, it had to place good somewhere. It is a t10 ivey school.
NYC. It's a NYC big law powerhouse.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:45 pm
by beef wellington
Mike12188 wrote:BU IN
GW IN
ND WL/IN
WUSTL IN
Cornell IN
Gtown WL/IN
UVA (ed) IN
PENN (ed) IN

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:53 pm
by Veyron
^ Ummmm, no, I think you're a bit confused there about the difficulty of admission to various schools... broham.

Also, it has been said that 171 is a magic # for GULC, I predict a str8 admit.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:58 pm
by 09042014
Veyron wrote:^ Ummmm, no, I think you're a bit confused there about the difficulty of admission to various schools... broham.

Also, it has been said that 171 is a magic # for GULC, I predict a str8 admit.
His predictions are pretty on target.

Almost everyone with 170+ and 3.0+ gets Penn Ed.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:59 pm
by beef wellington
Veyron wrote:^ Ummmm, no, I think you're a bit confused there about the difficulty of admission to various schools... broham.

Also, it has been said that 171 is a magic # for GULC, I predict a str8 admit.
Which schools? Splitter cycles are extremely unpredictable so I hope nobody's taking any of this too seriously. But FWIW OP and I are basically number twins. And I was WL/in at GULC. Anyway I just picked the results from eyeballing LSN, it's more useful than LSP for splitters.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:02 pm
by Veyron
beef wellington wrote:
Veyron wrote:^ Ummmm, no, I think you're a bit confused there about the difficulty of admission to various schools... broham.

Also, it has been said that 171 is a magic # for GULC, I predict a str8 admit.
Which schools? Splitter cycles are extremely unpredictable so I hope nobody's taking any of this too seriously. But FWIW OP and I are basically number twins. And I was WL/in at GULC. Anyway I just picked the results from eyeballing LSN, it's more useful than LSP for splitters.
It just seemed silly when combined with the ND/WL. If the boy is a good Catholic, he'll get ND with much greater prob than MVP ED.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:04 pm
by beef wellington
Veyron wrote:
beef wellington wrote:
Veyron wrote:^ Ummmm, no, I think you're a bit confused there about the difficulty of admission to various schools... broham.

Also, it has been said that 171 is a magic # for GULC, I predict a str8 admit.
Which schools? Splitter cycles are extremely unpredictable so I hope nobody's taking any of this too seriously. But FWIW OP and I are basically number twins. And I was WL/in at GULC. Anyway I just picked the results from eyeballing LSN, it's more useful than LSP for splitters.
It just seemed silly when combined with the ND/WL. If the boy is a good Catholic, he'll get ND with much greater prob than MVP ED.
It's a soft YP. Check their LSN graph.

Re: 171/3.28

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:07 pm
by nycsoul87
Veyron wrote:
beef wellington wrote:
Veyron wrote:^ Ummmm, no, I think you're a bit confused there about the difficulty of admission to various schools... broham.

Also, it has been said that 171 is a magic # for GULC, I predict a str8 admit.
Which schools? Splitter cycles are extremely unpredictable so I hope nobody's taking any of this too seriously. But FWIW OP and I are basically number twins. And I was WL/in at GULC. Anyway I just picked the results from eyeballing LSN, it's more useful than LSP for splitters.
It just seemed silly when combined with the ND/WL. If the boy is a good Catholic, he'll get ND with much greater prob than MVP ED.
Not really, Sept ED to UVa + 3.0+/170+ is as close to a guaranteed acceptance that a splitter gets