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I have no idea what to do. Was hoping for a 173, but I guess it just wasn't meant to be. Do I have any chance at all at T30, T14, specifically BU/BC? Thanks.

lawschoolpredictor.com says you're out at the T14 but have a decent shot at a few lower T30s.

fwiw even with a 173 it says you're out of the T14. A 176 gives you a decent shot at Cornell.

lsp is garbage for splitters.

^ if the above is true then lawschoolnumbers would be your best bet to scope out your chances.

Any work experience?

WUSTL, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, WL, Indiana, SMU should be on your app list.

Desert Fox wrote:Any work experience?

WUSTL, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, WL, Indiana, SMU should be on your app list.

Yeah, I just got out of undergrad so I'll have a year. Thinking about taking 2 years off and retaking. I was hoping for a 173 so I could ED to NU, but that seems unlikely with a 170. If I were to retake and get a 165-169 would it kill me? I rarely score below 170, but the thought of retaking worries me. Midwest splitter schools worry me too. I think I'd have trouble getting back to Boston or getting into Chicago ITE.

FuManChusco wrote:Thinking about taking 2 years off and retaking.

Would you be terribly unhappy if you did this? It seems like the best option here. The law won't be going anywhere, and as somebody who will be starting LS in the fall after three years out of undergrad, I can tell you that the growth and experience you get from even a relatively brief period out of school is invaluable. Also, working a 9-5 is fantastic in terms of scheduling LSAT study.

clintonius wrote:

FuManChusco wrote:Thinking about taking 2 years off and retaking.

Would you be terribly unhappy if you did this? It seems like the best option here. The law won't be going anywhere, and as somebody who will be starting LS in the fall after three years out of undergrad, I can tell you that the growth and experience you get from even a relatively brief period out of school is invaluable. Also, working a 9-5 is fantastic in terms of scheduling LSAT study.

I'm not opposed at all. I'm still pretty young so I'm in no real rush. Ideally I'll probably apply this year and see what happens in my cycle. If I'm not happy I'll probably just retry the next year. I'm really curious to see if an LSAT score <170 the 2nd time around would really hurt me. I know I can get 173+ but nothing is a guarantee and I need to figure out if the risk is worth the reward. My guess is it will be because my target schools take highest LSAT. I'm not sure how they feel about a drop in score though.

FuManChusco wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:Any work experience?

WUSTL, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, WL, Indiana, SMU should be on your app list.

Yeah, I just got out of undergrad so I'll have a year. Thinking about taking 2 years off and retaking. I was hoping for a 173 so I could ED to NU, but that seems unlikely with a 170. If I were to retake and get a 165-169 would it kill me? I rarely score below 170, but the thought of retaking worries me. Midwest splitter schools worry me too. I think I'd have trouble getting back to Boston or getting into Chicago ITE.

Yea I wouldn't go to a regional T1 ITE.

Here is what I'd do. Sign up for Oct LSAT, and then Dec if you don't get what you want. Apply ED at NU, and regular at BC/BU. If you don't get an offer you like, try again the year after.

Desert Fox wrote:

FuManChusco wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:Any work experience?

WUSTL, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, WL, Indiana, SMU should be on your app list.

Yeah, I just got out of undergrad so I'll have a year. Thinking about taking 2 years off and retaking. I was hoping for a 173 so I could ED to NU, but that seems unlikely with a 170. If I were to retake and get a 165-169 would it kill me? I rarely score below 170, but the thought of retaking worries me. Midwest splitter schools worry me too. I think I'd have trouble getting back to Boston or getting into Chicago ITE.

Yea I wouldn't go to a regional T1 ITE.

Here is what I'd do. Sign up for Oct LSAT, and then Dec if you don't get what you want. Apply ED at NU, and regular at BC/BU. If you don't get an offer you like, try again the year after.

thanks DF. I feel like you're someone I can listen to. Think I'll be at any significant disadvantage if I send out apps after Oct. LSAT? Is NU ED still possible at that time?

FuManChusco wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:

FuManChusco wrote: Yeah, I just got out of undergrad so I'll have a year. Thinking about taking 2 years off and retaking. I was hoping for a 173 so I could ED to NU, but that seems unlikely with a 170. If I were to retake and get a 165-169 would it kill me? I rarely score below 170, but the thought of retaking worries me. Midwest splitter schools worry me too. I think I'd have trouble getting back to Boston or getting into Chicago ITE.

Yea I wouldn't go to a regional T1 ITE.

Here is what I'd do. Sign up for Oct LSAT, and then Dec if you don't get what you want. Apply ED at NU, and regular at BC/BU. If you don't get an offer you like, try again the year after.

thanks DF. I feel like you're someone I can listen to. Think I'll be at any significant disadvantage if I send out apps after Oct. LSAT? Is NU ED still possible at that time?

Yea I ED'd to NU after my Oct score. Hell I even slacked off for a couple weeks after it. IIRC you need to be complete by Dec 1, so you should apply before Nov 15.

NU doesn't even look at the apps til Dec, so there is no harm in waiting until then. Other schools I don't know, but the vast majority of apps aren't even started until after the Oct test.

I'm not sure what your chances are with NU. But with a 170 it's above 0%.

Desert Fox wrote:Yea I ED'd to NU after my Oct score. Hell I even slacked off for a couple weeks after it. IIRC you need to be complete by Dec 1, so you should apply before Nov 15.


NU doesn't even look at the apps til Dec, so there is no harm in waiting until then. Other schools I don't know, but the vast majority of apps aren't even started until after the Oct test.

I'm not sure what your chances are with NU. But with a 170 it's above 0%.

Yeah, I see no real harm in taking it again then. I can't imagine scoring below a 170 if I improve my RC a little. I'll probably spend most of my summer doing apps with some light studying so I can go complete asap. I wish I could take it again next week. Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.

FuManChusco wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:Yea I ED'd to NU after my Oct score. Hell I even slacked off for a couple weeks after it. IIRC you need to be complete by Dec 1, so you should apply before Nov 15.


NU doesn't even look at the apps til Dec, so there is no harm in waiting until then. Other schools I don't know, but the vast majority of apps aren't even started until after the Oct test.

I'm not sure what your chances are with NU. But with a 170 it's above 0%.

Yeah, I see no real harm in taking it again then. I can't imagine scoring below a 170 if I improve my RC a little. I'll probably spend most of my summer doing apps with some light studying so I can go complete asap. I wish I could take it again next week. Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.

Well then you owe me a beer at NU's admitted student weekend next year.

Good luck.

Desert Fox wrote:

FuManChusco wrote:

Desert Fox wrote:Yea I ED'd to NU after my Oct score. Hell I even slacked off for a couple weeks after it. IIRC you need to be complete by Dec 1, so you should apply before Nov 15.


NU doesn't even look at the apps til Dec, so there is no harm in waiting until then. Other schools I don't know, but the vast majority of apps aren't even started until after the Oct test.

I'm not sure what your chances are with NU. But with a 170 it's above 0%.

Yeah, I see no real harm in taking it again then. I can't imagine scoring below a 170 if I improve my RC a little. I'll probably spend most of my summer doing apps with some light studying so I can go complete asap. I wish I could take it again next week. Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.

Well then you owe me a beer at NU's admitted student weekend next year.

Good luck.

What year are you DF?

kesexton wrote:

What year are you DF?

Class of 2013.