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Hey Gang!

I was wondering what my chances were for UNC Law. This is my dream school and has been ever since birth. I went to a NC public university for undergrad. Because of the LSAC's gpa calculations (bad first year of college then switched schools) it appears that I will have an UGPA of 3.0 instead of the 3.3 that I finished with. My LSAT is right at their median 160, and I intended on applying during the next cycle in October. I know UNC has a 70% - 75% instate quota for admissions, and they are big on public service. I'm not a URM.

I also have a masters degree in public administration from a public university in NC with a gpa of 3.88.

I will also have three summer internships on my resume in three different North Carolina cities where I worked with city managers. I also completed some interesting projects for these municipalities.

I can demonstrate an upward gpa trend as well as working 30 hours a week during undergrad.

I can demonstrate a public service commitment to NC type of personal statement.

I also won a couple of scholarships here and there, and did the whole frat leadership jazz as well in undergrad.

So, do I have enough soft factors to make up for an average LSAT and bad GPA?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Oh also, I took no time off from school. So I'm in the zone as it were... I also wanted to ask what other top 50 schools could I consider? Wake?

Even though your a NC resident, I would say you have pretty slim chances. Check out lawschoolnumbers.com or lawschoolpredictor.com

As for wake you would be WL or rejected

sorry - that lsat is holding you back.

I appreciate the honesty, always time to retake! What score do I need btw?

Se68744 wrote:I appreciate the honesty, always time to retake! What score do I need btw?

with a 3.0, probably a 165. It's hard to predict UNC where the highest score doesnt always get in.

lawschoolnumbers.com

Se68744 wrote:I appreciate the honesty, always time to retake! What score do I need btw?

UNC is hard to predict. But for WF, I got in with a 164 and a little higher gpa than yours....

+1.

For Wake Forest, 164 3.x will generally get you in, and 165 3.x+early app= scholly. The only way to get into wake with out 164+ is high gpa. (of course there are exceptions, but this seems like the general rule).

So I'm guessing soft factors don't make up for GPA or LSAT? They just act as maybe a tie breaker with someone who had similar numbers? Which is a shame because I think having a graduate degree would prove my ability to accomplish high level work course work.

Se68744 wrote:So I'm guessing soft factors don't make up for GPA or LSAT? They just act as maybe a tie breaker with someone who had similar numbers? Which is a shame because I think having a graduate degree would prove my ability to accomplish high level work course work.

Correct. GPA is rather low for UNC. LSAT is doable but still a bit low.

lawhawk wrote:

Se68744 wrote:I appreciate the honesty, always time to retake! What score do I need btw?

with a 3.0, probably a 165. It's hard to predict UNC where the highest score doesnt always get in.

lawschoolnumbers.com

I got WL'd at Wake with a slightly lower GPA and a 165; but my app was also pretty late.