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Based on your acceptances / denials / wl's, etc. I wasn't expecting it to predict the future, but it couldn't have been more wrong for me - in a good way.

I think a lot about my admissions cycle has been completely fucktarded. LSP put me at "Admitted" at Marquette but I got WL, and it put me as a weak consider at Case Western but I ended up with a 10,000 per year scholarship there.

Nightrunner wrote:I found LSP to be astoundingly accurate, especially considering the...difficult-to-predict nature of my application.

The only improvement I would recommend is that, for Yale, it should only say "deny" and "who the fuck knows."

i've been accepted, with schollys, to schools that had the big bad bold red DENY, and haven't heard from schools where i was supposedly an auto-admit. i'm sure this has to do with 'softs,' PS, whether or not the ad-com was menstruating, etc. but it did have me extremely nervous and pessimistic ... and apparently for no good reason.

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I was waitlisted at an admit and a strong consider but quickly accepted in to a weak consider. Everything else is still pending. I don't really feel like it's LSP's fault. They never claimed to be the end-all of LS admissions. It helped me get a better idea for where I had a shot. Plus I'm pretty sure this economy and the increased amount of applications from just about everyone royally screwed up any predictions...

leraa6587 wrote:I think we can all agree that this cycle, fostered by the economy, has thrown everyone for a loop. Same here, WL at safeties, accepted at almost all reaches, and no response from good fits...


Law school predictor was wrong about 3/4 of the time for me.

Hell, I'd take your cycle over mine; accepted at reaches sounds pretty good to me.

I've gotten no reaches so far, and my cycle has pretty much been what a conservative estimate would have been.

LSP actually seemed pretty spot on in my case.

Deny (1/4) (accept/deny)
Weak Consider (2/4) (2 still unknown)
Consider (2/2)
Strong Consider (4/4)
Admit (2/2)

The only real unknown was just the amounts of money that accompanied the offers, one of the strong considers gave me $0, while the deny gave me $60,000--but the predictions themselves seemed fairly accurate.

Weak Consider: Applied to 1 School, Rejected
Consider: Applied to 1 School, Waitlisted
Strong Consider: Applied to 2 Schools, Accepted at both and scholarship at one of them.

Pretty accurate

Lawschoolnumbers is a better predictor if you aren't lazy.

But LSP is pretty accurate. It's a good program.

Though a strong consider maybe end up a rejection.

Didn't work to well for me, but then again I had weak softs. Counting waitlists as rejections:

Consider-0/3
Strong Consider1/3
Admit 2/3

Law school numbers was a much better predictor for me.

I found LSP to be accurate for the most part, with the exception of UVA-- which i didn't see coming

Berkeley- consider- rejected
Michigan- consider- rejected
UPENN- consider- waitlisted
Virginia- consider - accepted with $75,000
Duke- consider- waitlisted
Georgetown- consider- "preferred preferred" waitlisted
UCLA- strong consider- still haven't heard back lol
BU- admit- accepted with $60,000
GWU- strongly consider- accepted with $105,450
W&L- admit - accepted with $102,000
GMU- admit- accepted
UMD- admit- accepted

ewc227 wrote:I found LSP to be accurate for the most part, with the exception of UVA-- which i didn't see coming

Berkeley- consider- rejected
Michigan- consider- rejected
UPENN- consider- waitlisted
Virginia- consider - accepted with $75,000
Duke- consider- waitlisted
Georgetown- consider- "preferred preferred" waitlisted
UCLA- strong consider- still haven't heard back lol
BU- admit- accepted with $60,000
GWU- strongly consider- accepted with $105,450
W&L- admit - accepted with $102,000
GMU- admit- accepted
UMD- admit- accepted

Any chance you'd be willing to post or PM your stats? Any idea why UVA came through like that?

LSP predictions for me:

3 denials. Reality was 2 denials and a WL.
2 weak considers. Reality was 1 rejection and a WL.
9 considers. Reality was 8 acceptances and 1 pending (Cornell EA deferred).
3 strong considers. Reality was 3 acceptances.

Quite accurate.

LSP predicted 7 denials. Reality was 3 denials, 4 waitlists.
LSP predicted 1 weak consider. Reality was 1 waitlist.
LSP predicted 5 considers. Reality was 3 admits (with $ or higher), 1 denial, and 1 waitlist.
LSP predicted 1 strong consider. Reality was full ride.


(Yes I applied to 14 schools, but I had 6 fee waivers, so...not too terrible.)

Gotten WL'd rather than rejected to a bunch of DENY schools despite late apps and a Feb. LSAT (also got accepted to one). But as a splitter, I applied mostly off of LSN rather than LSP and have been shocked about exactly zero of my results so far.

So far mine has been bass ackwards.

U of Washington (consider): pending
Seattle U (admit): waitlisted
Chicago-Kent (strong consider): admitted with $$
DePaul (admit): "priority consideration" (hybrid admit/waitlist)
Loyola-Chicago (admit): pending
St. Louis U (admit): rejected

LSP + Common TopLawSchool Knowledge (e.g. where splitters/reverse-splitters fare well, where ED makes a difference, etc.) = Very accurate

ViP wrote:LSP + Common lishi Knowledge (e.g. where splitters/reverse-splitters fare well, where ED makes a difference, etc.)= Very accurate

Is there a thread on "where ED makes a difference"? I know that it seems like UVA is one of those places, any others in the T18?

a little too optimistic maybe, but not too bad.

I was an admit at USC, and got WL'd.
Consider at Mich and rejected. Consider at berkeley and rejected. Consider at UCLA and in. Strong Consider at Cornell and in. Admit at UW and in.

All in all, LSP was only out and out wrong about USC, which I suspect might have WL'd me as YP.

whitman wrote:

ViP wrote:LSP + Common lishi Knowledge (e.g. where splitters/reverse-splitters fare well, where ED makes a difference, etc.)= Very accurate

Is there a thread on "where ED makes a difference"? I know that it seems like UVA is one of those places, any others in the T18?

I'm sure there's a thread.

UVA is the one that pops in everyone's mind. I'm pretty sure Michigan is another. Perhaps others to chime in? Northwestern, I believe?

I know people say UCLA ED doesn't make a difference, but I'm quite sure I wouldn't be sitting on a waitlist right now if I hadn't gone ED.

whitman wrote:

ViP wrote:LSP + Common lishi Knowledge (e.g. where splitters/reverse-splitters fare well, where ED makes a difference, etc.)= Very accurate

Is there a thread on "where ED makes a difference"? I know that it seems like UVA is one of those places, any others in the T18?

Everyone above one median at Northwestern who applied ED this year got in. Though the lowest LSAT who tried was only 165, so below that who knows.

http://northwestern.lawschoolnumbers.co ... =3&type=jd

I suspect you need work experience as well.

Law School Predictor for me: (166, 3.75)

Considers: 1 WL (Duke), 3 Rejects (Michigan, UCLA, UVA), 3 No Response Yet (Penn, Cornell, Vandy)
Strong Considers: 2 IN (BU w/$, W&M w/$$$), 2 WL (Illinois, Notre Dame), 2 No Response Yet (WUSTL - Hold, Minn)
Admits: Admitted at all Admits who've responded. All W/$$ (minimum)-$$$$$ except Wake (out of money until April 5). No Response from Colorado-Boulder yet (probably doesn't matter at all).

I think LSN was way too optimistic because my numbers are well-balanced but below both medians at most T14. It had me as consider at Berkeley in addition to 8th-17th. Realistically, I'm a WL or Ding at all those schools. I didn't apply to USC, but it has me at Strong Consider there. According to LSN, I'm WL/Ding at USC.

Also, it has me at 64% at W&M (versus 71% at USC and 72% at Notre Dame), while W&M admitted me within two weeks with great $$$ and ND waitlisted me (it's been a crapshoot with my numbers this year in South Bend).

Medians are more important than index. Especially when it comes to LSAT.