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Hello all,

I have a terrible GPA of 2.65 and I'm scoring in the 165ish LSAT range.

What is a solid LSAT to give me a decent chance at Arizona and Arizona State (ranked 43rd and 55th, respectively)?

As always, any help is appreciated.

I am assuming you are a non-URM? You're definitely going to have to hit that 165 or above. But how high? I don't think anyone knows. With a splitter there are a lot of factors to consider, such as your GPA trend. Are you thinking of trying to apply binding ED to Arizona?

Yes I am. I don't want to reach for out-of-my-league, especially with that terrible GPA (which was average across the board).

I really have no excuse. I'm South American, but as I've found out through research, if it isn't Mexican it doesn't seem to count as URM. I've had work as an English teacher in Spain and since I'm considering getting volunteer work where I can use my Spanish to help, but I'm only hoping this softens things up for me.

I know splitters are hard to predict. Do you think a 170 LSAT would make me golden? Especially if I ED? I want to do everything possible to attend Arizona and i'm studying my ass off for the June LSAT.

I'm also hoping a campus visit and what not will show my extreme interest.

if you get a 170 the only thing you will be worriyng about is whether to go to arizona or Washu.

I think if you scored a 170, you could be pretty certain that you would be in at both schools.

I have a 2.76 with a 168. ASU is my top choice.