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Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
With a 178+ and some good softs, possibly. Realistically though, study hard for the LSAT and work your ass off and you could end up somewhere nice.GTman11 wrote:Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
really? I think the GPA disqualifies OP from the T6 regardless of LSAT score.GTman11 wrote:Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
Anything's possible with a URM. But a 175/2.7 would probably get you denied at all six of those schools - maybe NYU would be okay, since they seem to like 175+ GPAs. I'm not very sure on this. But the rest of the schools.. good luck.Drake014 wrote:With a 178+ and some good softs, possibly. Realistically though, study hard for the LSAT and work your ass off and you could end up somewhere nice.GTman11 wrote:Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
Getting a 99th percentile score is statistically unlikely for anyone by definition.MorningHood wrote:Anything's possible with a URM. But a 175/2.7 would probably get you denied at all six of those schools - maybe NYU would be okay, since they seem to like 175+ GPAs. I'm not very sure on this. But the rest of the schools.. good luck.Drake014 wrote:With a 178+ and some good softs, possibly. Realistically though, study hard for the LSAT and work your ass off and you could end up somewhere nice.GTman11 wrote:Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
My honest guess is that you'll probably need 178+ to even be considered for CCN. But T14 schools look like reaches for you if you do in fact get that kind of score, which is statistically unlikely for those who are URM.
I agree with you 83%superserial wrote:really? I think the GPA disqualifies OP from the T6 regardless of LSAT score.GTman11 wrote:Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
Nah. I've seen URMs with 3.0s and low 170s make it in. A 2.7 with a high 170s would probably make it into one.GTman11 wrote:I agree with you 83%superserial wrote:really? I think the GPA disqualifies OP from the T6 regardless of LSAT score.GTman11 wrote:Anything is possible...but I'd take HYS off that list..score a 178+ and you'll have a shot at 1 of the other 3...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:With a 2.7 and a massive upward trend for the last 2.5 years, and being a URM, is there any conceivable way that any of HYSCCN would admit me? Would a 175+ on the LSAT, combined with a year or two of good work experience, do the trick? I feel like numbers are everything at these schools, but I still would like to try.
So if the OP wasn't a URM you'd think he'd be a shoe in to get a score that less than 1 in 100 people get?MorningHood wrote:Oh snaps... I guess that was a major stats fail eh : (
No, but in all seriousness, the rate at which URMs achieve that highly unlikely score range is significantly lower than non-URM test takers.
This underscores the significant degree of help URMs receive in the admission process... but then again, I think the above post gives the impression that there's a lot more hope than there really is.Drake014 wrote: Nah. I've seen URMs with 3.0s and low 170s make it in. A 2.7 with a high 170s would probably make it into one.
No.Drake014 wrote:So if the OP wasn't a URM you'd think he'd be a shoe in to get a score that less than 1 in 100 people get?MorningHood wrote:Oh snaps... I guess that was a major stats fail eh : (
No, but in all seriousness, the rate at which URMs achieve that highly unlikely score range is significantly lower than non-URM test takers.
Just so you know, that might have to at least do with the fact that there are thousands less URMs taking the LSAT than Caucasians.MorningHood wrote:Oh snaps... I guess that was a major stats fail eh : (
No, but in all seriousness, the rate at which URMs achieve that highly unlikely score range is significantly lower than non-URM test takers.
At this point nothing on here said about URMs should surprise you. The cold hard truth is that a lot of people simply don't like minorities/URMs, and as a result have no qualms about making these types of comments behind the thinly veiled shield of "disagreeing with affirmative action". Also, I've noticed a long time ago that many people on here really seem to be confused as to what 99th percentile means.Drake014 wrote:So if the OP wasn't a URM you'd think he'd be a shoe in to get a score that less than 1 in 100 people get?
schools haven't started physically inspecting people for URM status yet, but I've heard character and fitness can get pretty handsy...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:For the record, I'm not the URM type who came from a financially disadvantaged family situation or came from a tough neighborhood. I don't even look URM. The chances of me getting a 175+ are equally as tiny as the next average looking white guy. I know this, but I have hope.
kurama20 wrote: Just so you know, that might have to at least do with the fact that there are thousands less URMs taking the LSAT than Caucasians.
I don't know what you're implying, but I am a URM, no lie. No character or fitness issues there, if that's what you meant.superserial wrote:schools haven't started physically inspecting people for URM status yet, but I've heard character and fitness can get pretty handsy...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:For the record, I'm not the URM type who came from a financially disadvantaged family situation or came from a tough neighborhood. I don't even look URM. The chances of me getting a 175+ are equally as tiny as the next average looking white guy. I know this, but I have hope.
I was saying it doesn't matter if you look like a URM or not, because you said you "don't even look URM." chill.Andrew the Wolverine wrote:I don't know what you're implying, but I am a URM, no lie. No character or fitness issues there, if that's what you meant.superserial wrote:schools haven't started physically inspecting people for URM status yet, but I've heard character and fitness can get pretty handsy...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:For the record, I'm not the URM type who came from a financially disadvantaged family situation or came from a tough neighborhood. I don't even look URM. The chances of me getting a 175+ are equally as tiny as the next average looking white guy. I know this, but I have hope.
All that he's implying is that since you don't appear to be a URM, you might not qualify as one. There are cases where Caucasians that are 1/64 Native American attempting to apply as URM and what not. And I'm sure a lot of other things went through his mind, like:Andrew the Wolverine wrote:I don't know what you're implying, but I am a URM, no lie. No character or fitness issues there, if that's what you meant.superserial wrote:schools haven't started physically inspecting people for URM status yet, but I've heard character and fitness can get pretty handsy...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:For the record, I'm not the URM type who came from a financially disadvantaged family situation or came from a tough neighborhood. I don't even look URM. The chances of me getting a 175+ are equally as tiny as the next average looking white guy. I know this, but I have hope.
Ok I understand that, but I meant that my URM status wouldn't have any affect on my LSAT chances like being underprivileged might.superserial wrote:I was saying it doesn't matter if you look like a URM or not, because you said you "don't even look URM." chill.Andrew the Wolverine wrote:I don't know what you're implying, but I am a URM, no lie. No character or fitness issues there, if that's what you meant.superserial wrote:schools haven't started physically inspecting people for URM status yet, but I've heard character and fitness can get pretty handsy...Andrew the Wolverine wrote:For the record, I'm not the URM type who came from a financially disadvantaged family situation or came from a tough neighborhood. I don't even look URM. The chances of me getting a 175+ are equally as tiny as the next average looking white guy. I know this, but I have hope.
+1000kurama20 wrote:If you're black, and get a 175+, and did ED you would probably get into NYU.
Just so you know, that might have to at least do with the fact that there are thousands less URMs taking the LSAT than Caucasians.MorningHood wrote:Oh snaps... I guess that was a major stats fail eh : (
No, but in all seriousness, the rate at which URMs achieve that highly unlikely score range is significantly lower than non-URM test takers.
Drake014 wrote:So if the OP wasn't a URM you'd think he'd be a shoe in to get a score that less than 1 in 100 people get?
At this point nothing on here said about URMs should surprise you. The cold hard truth is that a lot of people simply don't like minorities/URMs, and as a result have no qualms about making these types of comments behind the thinly veiled shield of "disagreeing with affirmative action". Also, I've noticed a long time ago that many people on here really seem to be confused as to what 99th percentile means.
I think some people are putting too much weight onto that URM/LSAT score comment. Don't sweat it, honestly.Andrew the Wolverine wrote:
Ok I understand that, but I meant that my URM status wouldn't have any affect on my LSAT chances like being underprivileged might.
Well, that makes it sound as though we all just get allotted our fair 0.5% chance of a 175+, which is not the case. You're the best judge of what your personal chances are.Andrew the Wolverine wrote:For the record, I'm not the URM type who came from a financially disadvantaged family situation or came from a tough neighborhood. I don't even look URM. The chances of me getting a 175+ are equally as tiny as the next average looking white guy. I know this, but I have hope.
No.kurama20 wrote:If you're black, and get a 175+, and did ED you would probably get into NYU.
Just so you know, that might have to at least do with the fact that there are thousands less URMs taking the LSAT than Caucasians.MorningHood wrote:Oh snaps... I guess that was a major stats fail eh : (
No, but in all seriousness, the rate at which URMs achieve that highly unlikely score range is significantly lower than non-URM test takers.