Rutgers Newark Forum

[audrey hepburn]

Hi,

This is a question for current Rutgers students or anyone else that may now. I was wondering, do you know if your classmates are having a hard time finding 1L or 2L internships/jobs? Also, are a lot of 3Ls having a hard time finding a job?

Thanks

[tittle-tattle]

Reception for Scholarship Recipients - 5/13/2010

Anyone planning to attend this? I'm in the PT program, I'd like to meet with any PT'ers planning on showing up.

[wizoz]

I'm going but I am FT.

[wizoz]

@rutgers1L_10 - asians students are "students of color"? i find that hard to believe.

Yes, we are. We're just overrepresented. And also, I'm guessing Rutgers-Newark considers some of us minorities b/c I'm in MSP and I'm Asian.

In the famous words of MJ..it doesn't matter if you're black or white . MSP isn't exclusive to minorities...it's for any1 capable of demonstrating a disadvantage. They didn't change the name from MSP despite the shift in vision b/c. they wanted to honor the program name given at inception.

[wizoz]

Hi,

This is a question for current Rutgers students or anyone else that may now. I was wondering, do you know if your classmates are having a hard time finding 1L or 2L internships/jobs? Also, are a lot of 3Ls having a hard time finding a job?

Thanks

I think Rutgers1L already addressed this. I could've sworn I read his response to this very issue at some point earlier in this thread.

[badpixie]

I will probably attend - FT as well.

Now begins the dreaded "what the he'll should I wear??" dilemma.

[wizoz]

I will probably attend - FT as well.

Now begins the dreaded "what the he'll should I wear??" dilemma.

lol, i know what ya mean. I'm gonna wear something biz casual. Maybe a simple black dress or pants, a girly blazer, pumps.

[keg411]

Got an invite as well since I sent my seat deposit, but I'm planning to attend elsewhere (going to write to them and ask for the refund). I want to go too (the firm is ultra-close to where I live), but I feel like it's in poor taste .

[renee15]

I will probably attend - FT as well.

Now begins the dreaded "what the he'll should I wear??" dilemma.

lol, i know what ya mean. I'm gonna wear something biz casual. Maybe a simple black dress or pants, a girly blazer, pumps.

haha to class? If so, my wardrobe is in trouble Maybe it's time to stop shopping at Zumiez?

[Bigbub75]

Hey Guys. Just wanted to let you guys know I met with Stephanie Richman today. She is an assistant dean with the career services department. Because I plan on going part time my goal is to try and snag a full time position as a legal assistant. Meeting her was very helpful. She gave me tons of advice and even helped me with my resume.

Someone asked about recruiting/jobs/internships etc. She said that the class of 2010 of course had it rough, she also said that things are gonna be rough for the c/0 2011. But she said that certain indicators are showing that by 2012 things should start to turn around, and by 2013, while they may not be where they used to be, things should be pretty solid.

[jbl7979]

haha to class? If so, my wardrobe is in trouble Maybe it's time to stop shopping at Zumiez?

Assuming I get in PT and go to class after work, Ill be absolutely changing FROM a shirt and tie into a Hurley/Element T for class.

[wizoz]

haha to class? If so, my wardrobe is in trouble Maybe it's time to stop shopping at Zumiez?

Assuming I get in PT and go to class after work, Ill be absolutely changing FROM a shirt and tie into a Hurley/Element T for class.

Good luck; entry to this party requires admittance + scholly...

[inSouthAmerica]

Reception for Scholarship Recipients - 5/13/2010

Anyone planning to attend this? I'm in the PT program, I'd like to meet with any PT'ers planning on showing up.

won't be in inNorthAmerica.

[TUhustler]

haha to class? If so, my wardrobe is in trouble Maybe it's time to stop shopping at Zumiez?

Assuming I get in PT and go to class after work, Ill be absolutely changing FROM a shirt and tie into a Hurley/Element T for class.

Good luck; entry to this party requires admittance + scholly...

I'm pretty sure he was talking about going to class not the party....what was your reading comp score?

[wizoz]

@ TUhustler - speak only when spoken to.

[renee15]

haha to class? If so, my wardrobe is in trouble Maybe it's time to stop shopping at Zumiez?

Assuming I get in PT and go to class after work, Ill be absolutely changing FROM a shirt and tie into a Hurley/Element T for class.

Good luck; entry to this party requires admittance + scholly...

I'm pretty sure he was talking about going to class not the party....what was your reading comp score?

don't remember...probably crap

[mia_p]

They turned down my application to participate in the MSP...
I was really counting on its support and I'm really concerned that I'm missing out on a lot...
Dean Walton told me that there is an academic support program available to everyone in the first year class.
Could anybody tell me what kind of academic support I could expect from this academic support program? How does it work? Do I need to sign up?

[Rutgers1L_10]

Hi,

This is a question for current Rutgers students or anyone else that may now. I was wondering, do you know if your classmates are having a hard time finding 1L or 2L internships/jobs? Also, are a lot of 3Ls having a hard time finding a job?

Thanks

I did answer this question a while back, but I couldn't tell you where so I'll sum it up a bit.
1Ls are doing just fine getting summer jobs. But that doesn't mean anything. Getting a 1L job is not indicative of your chances at getting a 2L or a full time job (for the most part). Obviously if you have impeccable 1L grades and got a fellowship or some type of a 1L job that comes with a 2L stipend or offer to return as a 2L that's a big deal. But those are so few and far between the numbers are microscopic.
A few 1Ls have been able to get paid jobs with firms, and corporations. However, many 1Ls are taking this summer to do something for the experience or to dabble in something they otherwise wouldn't. A lot of people are doing really great clerkships, which is just something you want to have one your resume at some point. There are also some great gov't jobs and public interest jobs people are doing (US Atty's office, Atty General, Human Rights Division etc.)

3Ls that I know seem to be about 50/50. Many have firm jobs or clerkships. And I'm not sure where people get the idea that Rutgers (or any school for that matter) pads it's clerkship stats with so called traffic court or night court clerkships but that's just nonsense. When the school is talking clerskships they're talking NJ Supreme court, Appellate Division, Criminal Division, NY Court Systems (Family, Criminal, Appeals). The kind of clerkships you want on your resume, the kind that lead to great jobs after your clerkship year. But there are 3Ls that still have not secured jobs. They had 1L and 2L jobs. A lot of the 3Ls that worked for firms as 2L assumed they would get hired, but just haven't heard anything. But it's usually because the firm has not extended offers to anyone from that summer associate class, which means they're probably still waiting to see what the job market looks like. Firms have been waiting much longer to extend full time offers so unfortunately the waiting game is typical.

2Ls tend to lock up a jobs a little better. A lot of them did OCI, but many people gets jobs outside of OCI. I know as prospective students your main focus, and main source of information for jobs tends to circulate around the OCI program, but it's not this magical place where law firms swoop down and pick up 2Ls and carry them off to the top floor of high rise building and pay them lots of money. Unfortunately it's a little less awesome than that! According to career services OCI is "less-robust" than it has been in the past but apparently it's picking up. That's probably why they told someone that the outlook for the c/o 2013 will look a little better than the c/o 2010 (not that it takes a rocket scientist to make that kind of prediction). The thing about OCI is that it's just one way to get a job and you should use it as one source not necessarily as the end all be all to employment. Obviously most employers at OCI will be looking primarily for 2Ls (with good grades and a good resume) so it's a great opportunity to get a job, but there are ways to get jobs outside of OCI.

So overall, I would say people are doing okay.

[Rutgers1L_10]

They turned down my application to participate in the MSP...
I was really counting on its support and I'm really concerned that I'm missing out on a lot...
Dean Walton told me that there is an academic support program available to everyone in the first year class.
Could anybody tell me what kind of academic support I could expect from this academic support program? How does it work? Do I need to sign up?

This is a bit shocking. I guess they really are planning on a smaller 1L class, which could mean a smaller MSP class.
This year at orientation they actually tried to get more people to sign up for the MSP. So I guess they've got all the people they need.

But don't sweat it. First of all you can have as much support as a 1L as you need. Just make sure you get involved early on. Make sure you join a student group (or two). You don't have to be a minority or of any particular race to join any of the groups. if you are a minority student there are groups that are run by lots of various minority groups and I'm sure you can get all the help and support you need. The student groups are a great way to meet friends. Just because you're not in MSP don't let it stop you from getting involved. You can run for student office of SBA, you can join lots of other groups that deal with particular interest, and make sure you sign up for a buddy and attend the buddy mixers.

I'm not sure what 'academic support' program Deal Walton is talking about if you're not in MSP. I know that program has special academic programs set up for the MSP students. But if you make friends with a couple of 2Ls you have an automatic academic support group. The upperclassmen should be more than willing to set you up with outlines, help you with study tips and give you pointers on classes.
Another great way to meet people and get some really good academic help is to sign up to be a Bar Review Rep (like BarBri, Pieper or PMBR/Kaplan). You'll learn all about those opportunities throughout the first year, but there's no one group at Rutgers, MSP included, that has the lock on 1L support.

[badpixie]

haha to class? If so, my wardrobe is in trouble Maybe it's time to stop shopping at Zumiez?

Assuming I get in PT and go to class after work, Ill be absolutely changing FROM a shirt and tie into a Hurley/Element T for class.

Good luck; entry to this party requires admittance + scholly...

I'm pretty sure he was talking about going to class not the party....what was your reading comp score?

FWIW, he was responding to my comment, which was in reference to what to wear to the party/reception.

[TUhustler]

@ TUhustler - speak only when spoken to.

Don't be a douche and people won't be a douche back.

[TUhustler]

FWIW, he was responding to my comment, which was in reference to what to wear to the party/reception.

Well then this was a simple misunderstanding because he quoted people that were talking about going to class

[bernie shmegma]

@ TUhustler - speak only when spoken to.

Don't be a douche and people won't be a douche back.

Has anybody ever seen that commercial where the girl walks down the dock barefoot towards the lake with her mother; each of them wearing jeans and white button down shirts, holding their sandles in their hands? The girl starts a conversation by saying she wants to ask her mother something important. Her mother says of course. The girl then turns to her mother and goes "Mom, do you Douche?" haha greatest f-ing commercial EVERRR.

[senunit]

(I apologize in advance for the length of my post.)

Hi all. Sorry to deviate from the current topics at hand, but I am on the verge of going completely crazy attempting to get off the wait list into R-N. I felt as though my numbers were pretty legit to begin with and after being held in January, I was later wait listed (this month) after waiting 4 months for a decision. Its been a tough cycle, but I know this to be the case for many so I'm not hear to whine. I just really want to hear if any of you have had any success in getting in off the wait list this cycle. If so and you don't mind, please shed some light on the issue as it may help assist me and I desperately want to attend this coming fall.

So far I've sent ~3-4 LOCI's emphasizing my interest, willingness to attend, and new job. I have spoken with Dean Anita Walton on the issue several times, but aside from another (3rd!!!) LSAT, I can't seem to figure out what else needs to be done. I know sitting around and letting everything fall into place can't possibly be right. At the same time, the June LSAT may not come as the resolution as those results will come very late in the cycle, and whose to say I will go up in score with less than 6 weeks left to study.

I've looked through this thread and haven't been able to come across an answer to my Q, but that's most likely due to the fact that its a pretty massive thread and I may have skipped over it. Sorry if this is redundant but I really need your help. I thought that this may serve me a lot better than positing a separate topic that may be overlooked. You guys know what you're doing as many of you have already been accepted.

Thank you in advance.

[bernie shmegma]

(I apologize in advance for the length of my post.)

Hi all. Sorry to deviate from the current topics at hand, but I am on the verge of going completely crazy attempting to get off the wait list into R-N. I felt as though my numbers were pretty legit to begin with and after being held in January, I was later wait listed (this month) after waiting 4 months for a decision. Its been a tough cycle, but I know this to be the case for many so I'm not hear to whine. I just really want to hear if any of you have had any success in getting in off the wait list this cycle. If so and you don't mind, please shed some light on the issue as it may help assist me and I desperately want to attend this coming fall.

So far I've sent ~3-4 LOCI's emphasizing my interest, willingness to attend, and new job. I have spoken with Dean Anita Walton on the issue several times, but aside from another (3rd!!!) LSAT, I can't seem to figure out what else needs to be done. I know sitting around and letting everything fall into place can't possibly be right. At the same time, the June LSAT may not come as the resolution as those results will come very late in the cycle, and whose to say I will go up in score with less than 6 weeks left to study.

I've looked through this thread and haven't been able to come across an answer to my Q, but that's most likely due to the fact that its a pretty massive thread and I may have skipped over it. Sorry if this is redundant but I really need your help. I thought that this may serve me a lot better than positing a separate topic that may be overlooked. You guys know what you're doing as many of you have already been accepted.

Thank you in advance.

I think that can be right. You've done just about everything + some. I would reach into you network if you're DESPERATE and find someone who knows someone who knows someone very important to RU specifically to make a call or write a letter on your behalf. Other than that, all you can do is sit back and wait. If you can't stomach that option than I would spend my time hustling the connections. 6 degrees has gotta start with someone you know. Don't act desperate though. If the opportunity ever does arise. Work hard on your persuasive writing. Best of luck to you.