UC Irvine 2013 Forum

[Inygma]

Question: UCI requested my LSAC report yesterday, and LSAC sent it to them today, but LSAC didn't include my LoR's. All of my other schools received the LoRs with the report.. should I call UCI and let them know this?

[socalren]

Question: UCI requested my LSAC report yesterday, and LSAC sent it to them today, but LSAC didn't include my LoR's. All of my other schools received the LoRs with the report.. should I call UCI and let them know this?

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Since they were one of the few apps that requested 3 LORs I would definitely follow up on that...

[msch0i]

PLEEEEEEASE CALLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEE <3 I just want to end this pain.

hilarious when juxtaposed with your avatar

I'll look like my avatar ifwhen I get my call.

[Neil]

i'm at 0-2-6 (2 waitlists and 6 rejections) no acceptances.

Keep your head up! I'm sure you'll get some good news soon!

I vote Irvine admit the active people on this thread. That'll end up at about 60-80 people with good medians, right?

I second the motion. I'll post again if I don't yet qualify as "active".

[msch0i]

Has anyone visited UCI yet? If so, how did you like it? I'm thinking about visiting sometime this month since I haven't been to the UCI campus since I took my SATs there

[Inygma]

Has anyone visited UCI yet? If so, how did you like it? I'm thinking about visiting sometime this month since I haven't been to the UCI campus since I took my SATs there

I dropped by yesterday, but only to turn in a few things to admissions. I "saw" the law building, it is a mirror of the education building it looks like, but I did not go in because the admissions office is right inside the building of Education.

[msch0i]

Has anyone visited UCI yet? If so, how did you like it? I'm thinking about visiting sometime this month since I haven't been to the UCI campus since I took my SATs there

I dropped by yesterday, but only to turn in a few things to admissions. I "saw" the law building, it is a mirror of the education building it looks like, but I did not go in because the admissions office is right inside the building of Education.

Hm, I wonder if they give tours. I think I looked up info about touring the school last year and it said to contact them in January..unless it's a completely different school that I'm thinking of.

[socalren]

Has anyone visited UCI yet? If so, how did you like it? I'm thinking about visiting sometime this month since I haven't been to the UCI campus since I took my SATs there

I went to the Kaplan Law Panel there in August. It's a beautiful campus and I love the "garden" area in the middle. As I've mentioned before, everything about UCI fits with my wants for a law school, including the location (tons of stuff to do/shopping/beach close enough).

[Tofu]

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[wired]

I visited and loved it. The law building an on-going project and they have essentially annexed the Education building for their use. The library is beautiful. Their constructing a mock trial/moot court room.

It is also a five-minute walk from one of the on-campus complexes (Palo Verde) if you want to live on campus.

And as everyone else has mentioned, the weather is gorgeous. I visited in December and I wore a short-sleeve shirt.

[msch0i]

I visited and loved it. The law building an on-going project and they have essentially annexed the Education building for their use. The library is beautiful. Their constructing a mock trial/moot court room.

It is also a five-minute walk from one of the on-campus complexes (Palo Verde) if you want to live on campus.

And as everyone else has mentioned, the weather is gorgeous. I visited in December and I wore a short-sleeve shirt.

Did you take a guided tour or something or was it largely independent?

[wired]

I visited and loved it. The law building an on-going project and they have essentially annexed the Education building for their use. The library is beautiful. Their constructing a mock trial/moot court room.

It is also a five-minute walk from one of the on-campus complexes (Palo Verde) if you want to live on campus.

And as everyone else has mentioned, the weather is gorgeous. I visited in December and I wore a short-sleeve shirt.

Did you take a guided tour or something or was it largely independent?

One of the admission's officers walked me to the various parts of the (small) law campus.

[msch0i]

I visited and loved it. The law building an on-going project and they have essentially annexed the Education building for their use. The library is beautiful. Their constructing a mock trial/moot court room.

It is also a five-minute walk from one of the on-campus complexes (Palo Verde) if you want to live on campus.

And as everyone else has mentioned, the weather is gorgeous. I visited in December and I wore a short-sleeve shirt.

Did you take a guided tour or something or was it largely independent?

One of the admission's officers walked me to the various parts of the (small) law campus.

Oh, nice. I should really schedule a tour soon...so excited!

[Inygma]

No acceptances today?

[calgal17]

^^^

thanks for your input. I'm actually of the belief that after the T14, the rankings are more about personal preference. Being "bottom of T1" for UCI (using your prediction) isn't that far from Hastings current rank. Irvine is in my preferable market, it will be much cheaper and the current faculty/administration are going to work their tails off to make sure their first classes of students are well placed upon/after graduation. Plus it's public interest mission fits with my goals, Hastings, from my research, is more focused on private firms.

So, I think these are more rational considerations, not just me being "nuts"

I like your style. I think we have similar views of things.

[Veritas]

^^^

thanks for your input. I'm actually of the belief that after the T14, the rankings are more about personal preference. Being "bottom of T1" for UCI (using your prediction) isn't that far from Hastings current rank. Irvine is in my preferable market, it will be much cheaper and the current faculty/administration are going to work their tails off to make sure their first classes of students are well placed upon/after graduation. Plus it's public interest mission fits with my goals, Hastings, from my research, is more focused on private firms.

So, I think these are more rational considerations, not just me being "nuts"

I like your style. I think we have similar views of things.

let's be friends?

[gymboree]

^^^

thanks for your input. I'm actually of the belief that after the T14, the rankings are more about personal preference. Being "bottom of T1" for UCI (using your prediction) isn't that far from Hastings current rank. Irvine is in my preferable market, it will be much cheaper and the current faculty/administration are going to work their tails off to make sure their first classes of students are well placed upon/after graduation. Plus it's public interest mission fits with my goals, Hastings, from my research, is more focused on private firms.

So, I think these are more rational considerations, not just me being "nuts"

I like your style. I think we have similar views of things.

let's be friends?

This is my law school weltanschauung - hence my UCI love.

[DoctorNick189]

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[gymboree]

You think they will dip below the 167 mark?

with a 165/3.82 I would LOVE for UCI to LOVE me back

they will attempt to keep their median probably at all costs. LSAT is the most difficult statistic to keep up.

BUT 50% are below the 167 median so yea. but you got into hastings!!!!

Irvine/Davis/UCLA/USC/UCB/USD/LLS > Hastings

You are nuts if you think a new, unaccredited Irvine is better than UC Hastings. Once the scholarship money runs dry, Irvine is heading for the bottom of tier 1. Few people are going to pay the full 43k resident/55k non-resident (2011-2012 fees) to attend a school with no record at all.

You are nuts if you think a UC quality law school in Irvine isn't an attractive option. Between the 15-30 rankings it's almost all freezing cold schools (want to go to Indiana? Illinois? Iowa?) or schools in the South (want some humidity? how about Vanderbilt? UNC? or Alabama?). This is just weather -- I'm just getting started.

The biggest point you're missing is UC Irvine's faculty. Have you any idea who teaches there? Talk to me when you're struggling through Conlaw and you have to consult your Chemerinsky. Dean Chemerinsky wrote it. UC Irvine's dean. The same one UC Irvine students have coffee with a couple times a month. They have the opportunity to ask him questions *in person*.

There's a value add in studying with the UC Irvine faculty - and people will pay for that quality. Elizabeth Loftus anyone? She was the memory expert in the Oliver North trial and Rodney King trial (formerly of UW). Then there's Professors Cohen for Econ., Moran for Torts (25 years at Boalt Hall), Weinstein for lawyering skills (LA & NY Times), Burk for IP (formerly at UMN), Menkel-Meadow for CivPro (stolen from Georgetown), Fisk (stolen from Duke, formerly at USC).... and on and on. Dean Ortiz stolen from Boalt Hall. Overall, UC Irvine faculty are ranked in the top 10 of faculty for scholarly impact.
http://www.leiterrankings.com/faculty/2 ... pact.shtml

These people have a record.

Then, you have the Irvine legal community coming out in support of UC Irvine even ITE. Not only does UC Irvine have more employers committed to coming on campus for their OCI *than they have students*, but there is a 3:1 student/faculty ratio. How much easier is it going to be for those students to get personal attention and excellent references? It's certainly not 3 deep at office hours. How hard are the faculty and career services staff going to work to get those students the best clerkships and internships possible? What other school matches you with 2 established mentors in the legal community as a 1L? Or ever?

The Orange County legal community has ample opportunity for internships and clerkships. There are nearby federal courts, US Attorney offices, an active and high profile DA's office, public defender's office, and Legal Aid. What's more, UC Irvine students are already in those offices doing intake as 1L's.
http://www.law.uci.edu/registrar/curriculum.html

Let's see what respected OC lawyers have to say...
[M]ost of the state’s growth since 1965, and much of its future expansion, is in Southern California. The region needs another top-tier school, says O’Melveny & Myers partner Brett Williamson, a former Chemerinsky student.“There is a huge need in having an Orange County school with the resources and profile a UC school can bring,” says Williamson, who has practiced in Newport Beach for more than 20 years and now is managing partner of O’Melveny’s office there.
http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/arti ... _by_erwin/

If you don't want to apply to UC Irvine, that's fine. Maybe you don't want to attend UC Irvine, that's fine. Maybe you don't even want to work at the Newport Beach office of O'Melveny & Myers, I'm fine with that, too.

But don't knock my school.

[finalaspects]

But don't knock my school.

i take it irvine is one of your top choices? although you have a few great schools to hear back from

[gymboree]

the low lawyers-judges score will affect the first few graduating classes

n=1, but my brother-in-law (HYS J.D., Biglaw) in the Northeast knows all about UC Irvine. It's all over the journals, and people are watching this around the country. Judges that will vote on this kind of thing know who/what/where about UC Irvine. I would argue that the sort to follow these things are the same sort who bother to respond to the request for USNWR rankings questionnaires.

[finalaspects]

the low lawyers-judges score will affect the first few graduating classes

n=1, but my brother-in-law (HYS J.D., Biglaw) in the Northeast knows all about UC Irvine. It's all over the journals, and people are watching this around the country. Judges that will vote on this kind of thing know who/what/where about UC Irvine. I would argue that the sort to follow these things are the same sort who bother to respond to the request for USNWR rankings questionnaires.

you sure you don't work for irvine? and you're just trying to get us to attend?

(you succeeded!)

[gymboree]

But don't knock my school.

i take it irvine is one of your top choices? although you have a few great schools to hear back from

If Harvard could turn up the heat to 72 year-round and then buy me a BMW 7-series (the equivalent of the UC Irvine offer).... then, maybe... Oh, and I'd have to get in!

[ucilawzot!]

Hi all. I am a current UCI law student. I enjoyed reading this page and all of your comments. Its great to see that there are applicants who seem as excited about UCI as the current students.

To those of you who mentioned that you want to visit and tour the school: please do! There are lots of us who would love to show you around and answer your questions in person. We have a lot of school pride and are happy to share it.

Second, don't let the nay-sayers get you down. If someone wants to hate UCI they will find a way to do it regardless of how many of their arguments you can counter. Ultimately, the decision to attend this school is a personal one and only you know what your goals are and whether UCI will help you achieve them.

There are certainly pros and cons to attending a new school, but in my opinion, the pros far exceed the cons and I don't think you will find a single student in the innaugural class who regrets the decision to attend UCI. Many of you have already touched on what makes UCI so special, but I don't think enough has been said about the support of the local, regional and national legal community. First, they paid for our scholarships, and the scholarships for the class of 2013, which represents a significant financial investment in the school and the students. Not only this, they are also making major commitments of their time and expertise in helping us build our student groups and the larger law school institution. They're hiring us as interns and are inviting us to work in their clinics. We have state and federal judges who are hiring us for externships and who have promised to hire us as clerks. As far as I have heard, we all have summer jobs lined up in the parts of the country that we want (not only OC) and doing the type of law that we want.

It isn't easy to go to school somewhere without 2Ls or 3Ls, and its very time consuming to build a student government and student groups from the ground up, but this work is also exciting and the types of students who seem to have gravitated to UCI like the challenge.

If you have other questions please PM me and I'm happy to answer any that I can.

Good luck with your admissions cycles! I hope to see some of you in the Irv next year.

[msch0i]

Thanks for sharing that! Hearing about you guys having summer jobs lined up and everything really makes me at ease, especially since the one thing I was kind of concerned about was the possible lack of name recognition UCI may have and how that may have hindered my job search...but it sounds like it won't be that much of a problem.

...now to get that call...