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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CoaltoNewCastle » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:30 am

I think there were a few serious lurking variables that made Cornell go up by half while other schools are probably going up by more like 20%. Those two main variables are that Cornell is in a cold, remote location and that it requires a dean statement. Both of these things probably make Cornell get fewer applications during normal years, with a larger portion of the people applying being serious about Cornell. In a year like this, people are applying to more schools so I think a lot of people who would have applied to some T14's, but left out annoying Cornell, are going to the trouble to apply there this year to be safer.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by BenJ » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:49 am

Cornell dropped the Dean's Statement requirement this year. Which might explain part of the jump in apps, actually.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:50 am

CoaltoNewCastle wrote:I think there were a few serious lurking variables that made Cornell go up by half while other schools are probably going up by more like 20%. Those two main variables are that Cornell is in a cold, remote location and that it requires a dean statement. Both of these things probably make Cornell get fewer applications during normal years, with a larger portion of the people applying being serious about Cornell. In a year like this, people are applying to more schools so I think a lot of people who would have applied to some T14's, but left out annoying Cornell, are going to the trouble to apply there this year to be safer.
Also, Cornell has lay prestige that comes with its name (but at the same time isn't overwhelmingly intimidating like H or Y), so it may have drawn a greater number of casual applicants than other T14 schools without the same kind of lay prestige/approachability combo, which contributed to the spike in apps.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by BenJ » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:52 am

Anyway, why are we talking about Cornell in the Columbia thread? Let's get worrying here, folks, not talking about some TTT in upstate :lol:

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:53 am

BenJ wrote:Anyway, why are we talking about Cornell in the Columbia thread? Let's get worrying here, folks, not talking about some TTT in upstate :lol:
Because Columbia has ignored us for so long, they've left us no choice other than to discuss completely unrelated topics in their thread. :wink:

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by leftofthedial » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:55 am

theadw wrote:
VoidSix wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
VoidSix wrote:How intestinal is your living place? I'm only an hour outside of Denver so I might be in trouble.
In Chicago, so not really intestinal at all, unfortunately. If I were in rural Kentucky I might hold out some hope.
LOL at anyone from Kentucky getting into CLS.
I'm from Kentucky.
Excellent work representing the Commonwealth. Hope to see you soon.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:02 am

So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CardinalRules » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:07 am

blue5385 wrote:So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.
At least, you know exactly when you might hear, unlike the poor folks in the Chicago thread who will be staring at their phone all afternoon and willing it to ring.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:08 am

managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.
At least, you know exactly when you might hear, unlike the poor folks in the Chicago thread who will be staring at their phone all afternoon and willing it to ring.
True. There is something comforting in the regularity of soul-crushing disappointment coming every day at 3 pm.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CoaltoNewCastle » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:10 am

Cornell really dropped the dean's statement requirement? Geez, I didn't know that. But that really helps explain why they have so many more applicants.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:10 am

CoaltoNewCastle wrote:Cornell really dropped the dean's statement requirement? Geez, I didn't know that. But that really helps explain why they have so many more applicants.
It's still required, but only if you have a black mark on your app.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CardinalRules » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:11 am

blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.
At least, you know exactly when you might hear, unlike the poor folks in the Chicago thread who will be staring at their phone all afternoon and willing it to ring.
True. There is something comforting in the regularity of soul-crushing disappointment coming every day at 3 pm.
The more I hear from you, the more I like you. How did we never meet before? :D

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:12 am

managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.
At least, you know exactly when you might hear, unlike the poor folks in the Chicago thread who will be staring at their phone all afternoon and willing it to ring.
True. There is something comforting in the regularity of soul-crushing disappointment coming every day at 3 pm.
The more I hear from you, the more I like you. How did we never meet before? :D
Because I didn't post on TLS very often until my application anxiety reached a fever pitch. I knew people here would commiserate.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by Jericwithers » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:13 am

managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.
At least, you know exactly when you might hear, unlike the poor folks in the Chicago thread who will be staring at their phone all afternoon and willing it to ring.
:shock: Will that help my chances? I stared at a goat once and killed it, but this seems much more difficult.

So when should I expect my decision from Columbia. Has there been a wave of early application wl/rejects yet?

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:14 am

Jericwithers wrote:
managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:So, back to worrying...T minus 16 hours until the mailman comes to my house, bearing no VCEs as usual.
At least, you know exactly when you might hear, unlike the poor folks in the Chicago thread who will be staring at their phone all afternoon and willing it to ring.
:shock: Will that help my chances? I stared at a goat once and killed it, but this seems much more difficult.

So when should I expect my decision from Columbia. Has there been a wave of early application wl/rejects yet?
How long did it take you to kill that goat by staring at it? Take that time and add three to four months to it, and that's how long it will take CLS to get back to you.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CardinalRules » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:14 am

blue5385 wrote:
Because I didn't post on TLS very often until my application anxiety reached a fever pitch. I knew people here would commiserate.
Blue5385, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. :wink:

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:18 am

managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
Because I didn't post on TLS very often until my application anxiety reached a fever pitch. I knew people here would commiserate.
Blue5385, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. :wink:
:)

And every day that passes without my CLS acceptance, I feel like Bogie on the train platform with a comical look on his face because his insides have been kicked out.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CardinalRules » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:31 am

blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
Because I didn't post on TLS very often until my application anxiety reached a fever pitch. I knew people here would commiserate.
Blue5385, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. :wink:
:)

And every day that passes without my CLS acceptance, I feel like Bogie on the train platform with a comical look on his face because his insides have been kicked out.
Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:40 am

managamy wrote:Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.
I hope so. CLS should enter the 21st century and get a Twitter feed, that way I could obsessively follow it to gauge when decisions are coming out instead of stalking other applicants on LSN to determine their complete/decision dates. It would be much less effort without sacrificing any of the neuroticism.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CardinalRules » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:44 am

blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.
I hope so. CLS should enter the 21st century and get a Twitter feed, that way I could obsessively follow it to gauge when decisions are coming out instead of stalking other applicants on LSN to determine their complete/decision dates. It would be much less effort without sacrificing any of the neuroticism.
Only YLS, Berkeley, and Chicago have a Twitter feed among the top schools.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by blue5385 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:54 am

managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.
I hope so. CLS should enter the 21st century and get a Twitter feed, that way I could obsessively follow it to gauge when decisions are coming out instead of stalking other applicants on LSN to determine their complete/decision dates. It would be much less effort without sacrificing any of the neuroticism.
Only YLS, Berkeley, and Chicago have a Twitter feed among the top schools.
Maybe that's why Chicago has been so deathly slow--they're spending a disproportionate amount of time updating their Twitter feed instead of making decisions on apps.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by Dignan » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:48 am

managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.
I hope so. CLS should enter the 21st century and get a Twitter feed, that way I could obsessively follow it to gauge when decisions are coming out instead of stalking other applicants on LSN to determine their complete/decision dates. It would be much less effort without sacrificing any of the neuroticism.
Only YLS, Berkeley, and Chicago have a Twitter feed among the top schools.
I guess it depends on your definition of "top," but Northwestern has an active Twitter feed.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by BenJ » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:54 am

Dignan wrote:
managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.
I hope so. CLS should enter the 21st century and get a Twitter feed, that way I could obsessively follow it to gauge when decisions are coming out instead of stalking other applicants on LSN to determine their complete/decision dates. It would be much less effort without sacrificing any of the neuroticism.
Only YLS, Berkeley, and Chicago have a Twitter feed among the top schools.
I guess it depends on your definition of "top," but Northwestern has an active Twitter feed.
Northwestern is different. It is a top school, but it's totally irrelevant to anyone applying straight from undergrad. Your numbers and application either aren't good enough to make up for the lack of work experience, or they are good enough to make up for it but they're also good enough to get you into Chicago.

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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CoaltoNewCastle » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:44 am

BenJ wrote: Northwestern is different. It is a top school, but it's totally irrelevant to anyone applying straight from undergrad. Your numbers and application either aren't good enough to make up for the lack of work experience, or they are good enough to make up for it but they're also good enough to get you into Chicago.
I wish people would stop saying things like this. Northwestern isn't THAT into work experience. They could just as easily be said to be really into the LSAT. They're just a splitter-friendly school. My friend got into Northwestern right out of undergrad with a ~2.9 (I think, but it might have been lower), 175. TLS users have blown the NW=work experience idea out of proportion.

Edit: After reading more about this in the splitters thread, it looks like I'm wrong now because of a very recent policy change on their part. Sorry.
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Re: Columbia 2010

Post by CardinalRules » Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:09 am

Dignan wrote:
managamy wrote:
blue5385 wrote:
managamy wrote:Hopefully, you'll eventually feel the way he does in "Key Largo" when he's gunned down Edward G. Robinson & Co. and is heading back to an adoring Bacall.
I hope so. CLS should enter the 21st century and get a Twitter feed, that way I could obsessively follow it to gauge when decisions are coming out instead of stalking other applicants on LSN to determine their complete/decision dates. It would be much less effort without sacrificing any of the neuroticism.
Only YLS, Berkeley, and Chicago have a Twitter feed among the top schools.
I guess it depends on your definition of "top," but Northwestern has an active Twitter feed.
I didn't apply to NU.

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