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Waitlisted via status checker.
PT / 159 / 3.3
Best of Luck to others still waiting!
PT / 159 / 3.3
Best of Luck to others still waiting!
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F*ck. Me too.....luckycurl84 wrote:Waitlisted via status checker.
I know I shouldn't complain, but I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed.....
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Sorry to hear that guys... are either of you plannin on riding the rollercoaster WL ride in hopes of getting admitted late this summer.
BTW you guys now have me checkin my status check every 15 min. My status has still not changed since going in review 4/20/2010. If both of you guys got WL I'm thinkin that may be were I end up as well...
BTW you guys now have me checkin my status check every 15 min. My status has still not changed since going in review 4/20/2010. If both of you guys got WL I'm thinkin that may be were I end up as well...
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I'm going to ride it, because I still really want to go, but my UH spirit it broken. *If* I get off the waitlist, I may show up on the first day of class in a total funk. I have NOT enjoyed their admissions process.
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U-H is it for me. I only applied to reaches. I'm not willing to quit my well-paying job to go somewhere I'm not 100% committed to. Go big or go home.
STCL's just not for me, so I didn't apply. I think STCL is a great option for those looking to get into litigation. I mean seriously: Kasowitz Benson has 4 Associates, 1 Partner; Bracewell Guiliani has 7 Associates, 7 Partners, 2 Counsels; Baker Botts has 6 Associates, 2 Counsels - and that's only 3 firms.
My boss is going to be pissed when I tell her about the WL. She likes to plan waaaay ahead and this is going to test her patience more than mine.
STCL's just not for me, so I didn't apply. I think STCL is a great option for those looking to get into litigation. I mean seriously: Kasowitz Benson has 4 Associates, 1 Partner; Bracewell Guiliani has 7 Associates, 7 Partners, 2 Counsels; Baker Botts has 6 Associates, 2 Counsels - and that's only 3 firms.
My boss is going to be pissed when I tell her about the WL. She likes to plan waaaay ahead and this is going to test her patience more than mine.
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Okay, I've recouped my spirit, and my UHLC LOCI is now on its way.
Trying to find a glimmer of positive hope here, but is it possible that UH WL/rejects so many candidates as measure to protect yield numbers? We know that they are particularly sensitive at this time to rankings, and one of the factors in the rankings is a school’s yield (the percentage of accepted applicants who attend the school). Perhaps they only accept the very top GPA/LSAT candidates, and then WL the rest, so that among those that have continued interest late in the cycle, they are very likely to attend, and thus padding their yield numbers.
Discuss......????
Trying to find a glimmer of positive hope here, but is it possible that UH WL/rejects so many candidates as measure to protect yield numbers? We know that they are particularly sensitive at this time to rankings, and one of the factors in the rankings is a school’s yield (the percentage of accepted applicants who attend the school). Perhaps they only accept the very top GPA/LSAT candidates, and then WL the rest, so that among those that have continued interest late in the cycle, they are very likely to attend, and thus padding their yield numbers.
Discuss......????
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Did anyone else get the e-mail today about staying on the waitlist/how they are making offers in the next couple of weeks??
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No.choochoo wrote:Did anyone else get the e-mail today about staying on the waitlist/how they are making offers in the next couple of weeks??
Are you FT?
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Yeschoochoo wrote:Did anyone else get the e-mail today about staying on the waitlist/how they are making offers in the next couple of weeks??
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FT... I applied back in the early decision period and was waitlisted in Jan/Feb (don't remember)raperez129 wrote:No.choochoo wrote:Did anyone else get the e-mail today about staying on the waitlist/how they are making offers in the next couple of weeks??
Are you FT?
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I got it and I withdrew from the WL. Good luck to those who really want to go!choochoo wrote:Did anyone else get the e-mail today about staying on the waitlist/how they are making offers in the next couple of weeks??
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I would imagine that the WL decisions probably only apply to FT at this point as I recently saw something on the admissions blog saying they are trying to have all PT decisions made before JULY
I hope I can give the PT WL some hope as I've been staring at the carnage over at LSN and the good news is this, the one PT acceptance (riburn3 please clarify if your still lurking here) has stated they are leaning towards not even going to law school this year. There have been alot of rejections and 4 (by my count) WL. I would have to think they there are definately still PT slots available and patience will be key. At least thats what I keep telling myself after STILL being in review since 4/20/2010 w/ no updates.
I hope I can give the PT WL some hope as I've been staring at the carnage over at LSN and the good news is this, the one PT acceptance (riburn3 please clarify if your still lurking here) has stated they are leaning towards not even going to law school this year. There have been alot of rejections and 4 (by my count) WL. I would have to think they there are definately still PT slots available and patience will be key. At least thats what I keep telling myself after STILL being in review since 4/20/2010 w/ no updates.
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FT - and no I did not get it...choochoo wrote:Did anyone else get the e-mail today about staying on the waitlist/how they are making offers in the next couple of weeks??
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bigred77 wrote:I would imagine that the WL decisions probably only apply to FT at this point as I recently saw something on the admissions blog saying they are trying to have all PT decisions made before JULY
I hope I can give the PT WL some hope as I've been staring at the carnage over at LSN and the good news is this, the one PT acceptance (riburn3 please clarify if your still lurking here) has stated they are leaning towards not even going to law school this year. There have been alot of rejections and 4 (by my count) WL. I would have to think they there are definately still PT slots available and patience will be key. At least thats what I keep telling myself after STILL being in review since 4/20/2010 w/ no updates.
That is what I keep thinking. Even if LSN is only a small representation, it still seems that there are many PT slots left. That is why I speculated that it is as if they only offer a few acceptances, then fill the remaining slots with the die hard WLers still haning on to hope late in the summer. Me, and others on the WL are well within the stats for the PT program, yet we didn't get the accept. The only accepts are those that appear to be above the 25/75 stats.....
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BleedBlue83, is UH your first and only choice?
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It is, and not due laziness or lack of willingness to relocate elsewhere. This is my second application to the program in as many years.rdcws000 wrote:BleedBlue83, is UH your first and only choice?
My FT job is here (relevant if offered PT admission). I place a lot of value in being able to continue networking here, fiance has a stable job here, family obligations here in Houston, it just adds up as the right place for my circumstances.
EDIT: Would someone be kind enough to copy and paste the e-mail sent out 5/18 re: the WL?
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Oh, I wasn't implying laziness! I only asked because I wondered if you considered STCL as a backup option. Believe me, I understand the difference in prospects between the schools, but since you are already employed and considering staying in the same field (same as me) don't you think you could accomplish this goal at another school?BleedBlue83 wrote:It is, and not due laziness or lack of willingness to relocate elsewhere. This is my second application to the program in 3 years.rdcws000 wrote:BleedBlue83, is UH your first and only choice?
My FT job is here (relevant if offered PT admission). I work in the energy (O&G) industry and want to stay in it after obtaining my JD, so I place a lot of value in being able to continue networking here.... Wedding in the fall, fiance has a stable job here, family obligations here in Houston, it just adds up as the right place for my circumstances.
EDIT: Would someone be kind enough to copy and paste the e-mail sent out 5/18 re: the WL?
UH was by far my first choice. I was very let down when I was rejected. I also don't mean to jinx you, the fact that you are on the waitlist is a more positive sign than I received. However, it can help alleviate the stress if you have another, albeit inferior, option.
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BleedBlue83 wrote:It is, and not due laziness or lack of willingness to relocate elsewhere. This is my second application to the program in 3 years.rdcws000 wrote:BleedBlue83, is UH your first and only choice?
My FT job is here (relevant if offered PT admission). I work in the energy (O&G) industry and want to stay in it after obtaining my JD, so I place a lot of value in being able to continue networking here.... Wedding in the fall, fiance has a stable job here, family obligations here in Houston, it just adds up as the right place for my circumstances.
EDIT: Would someone be kind enough to copy and paste the e-mail sent out 5/18 re: the WL?
Here's the e-mail:
Dear XXXX,
Thank you for your continued interest in the University of Houston Law Center and for your patience with our waitlist process. The Admissions Committee has begun to consider the waitlist and is planning to make a number of offers over the next two weeks. In making its decisions, the committee wishes to consider only applicants who are still committed to earning their law degree from the UH Law Center. If you are still interested in enrolling and would like to be considered in this round, please let me know by Friday, May 21st, and I will forward your file to the Admissions Committee for consideration.
If you have already finalized your enrollment and would like to be removed from consideration, please let me know that as well.
I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you!
Jamie Ann West, J.D.
Assistant Dean for Admissions
I thought it had a much nicer tone than the original waitlist letter received by mail... I thought that one was a bit harsh!
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I am PT WL as well. I had previously sent note to Jamie indicating "I'm still here and I'm still interested" status. I did not recieve the email. Hopefully that does not mean they have already rejected me - although I wouldn't doubt it when I see the other LSAT scores on the PT waitlist.
BTW, where is this LSN? I could search but I'm lazy. Thanks.
BTW, where is this LSN? I could search but I'm lazy. Thanks.
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Sorry, I didn't think you were calling me lazy - don't know why I came off defensively in my reply.rdcws000 wrote:Oh, I wasn't implying laziness! I only asked because I wondered if you considered STCL as a backup option. Believe me, I understand the difference in prospects between the schools, but since you are already employed and considering staying in the same field (same as me) don't you think you could accomplish this goal at another school?BleedBlue83 wrote:It is, and not due laziness or lack of willingness to relocate elsewhere. This is my second application to the program in 3 years.rdcws000 wrote:BleedBlue83, is UH your first and only choice?
My FT job is here (relevant if offered PT admission). I work in the energy (O&G) industry and want to stay in it after obtaining my JD, so I place a lot of value in being able to continue networking here.... Wedding in the fall, fiance has a stable job here, family obligations here in Houston, it just adds up as the right place for my circumstances.
EDIT: Would someone be kind enough to copy and paste the e-mail sent out 5/18 re: the WL?
UH was by far my first choice. I was very let down when I was rejected. I also don't mean to jinx you, the fact that you are on the waitlist is a more positive sign than I received. However, it can help alleviate the stress if you have another, albeit inferior, option.
I would imagine it's too late to squeeze and app under the door even for STCL PT(?)
Your post reminds me of a funny story:
When asked by one of my managers who wrote me an LOR if I would consider STCL, I replied that it was UHLC or bust - telling him I just didn't feel STCL quite cut it. He then told me that his daughter graduated with her JD from STCL...
In hindsight I suppose should have sent an application to STCL as a backup, but I'm still not sure that I would choose to attend were I accepted.
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OUCH!!BleedBlue83 wrote:
Your post reminds me of a funny story:
When asked by one of my managers who wrote my an LOR if I would consider STCL, I replied that it was UHLC or bust - telling him I just didn't feel STCL quite cut it. He then told me that his daughter graduated with her JD from STCL...
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Thank you for posting a copy of the letter!
I would also like to add that I sent a 'statement of continued interest' to the admissions office around the time I was WL'ed.
So to add to the speculation, perhaps they are only sending that note to folks who have yet to declare, formally or informally, that they are still interested in consideration off the WL. I certainly hope so...
I'm tempted to fire an e-mail to the office asking why I did not receive an e-mail, but I don't want to be "that guy".
I would also like to add that I sent a 'statement of continued interest' to the admissions office around the time I was WL'ed.
So to add to the speculation, perhaps they are only sending that note to folks who have yet to declare, formally or informally, that they are still interested in consideration off the WL. I certainly hope so...
I'm tempted to fire an e-mail to the office asking why I did not receive an e-mail, but I don't want to be "that guy".
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I'm in similar boat being reluctant to risk good job and wanting that higher probabality the rankings give.In hindsight I suppose should have sent an application to STCL as a backup, but I'm still not sure that I would choose to attend were I accepted.
As stated earlier in thread, I applied to STCL this year and turned them down hoping for UH. I'm retaking LSAT to give it one more try for next yr (if I dont' get in this yr). If I don't get into UH next yr, then I'll just go STCL. Said it before, I was really impressed at open house and from various graduates I have interviewed.
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I really think the letters to WL'ed candidates were for FT people only; has anyone on the PT WL received a letter? The deadline for PT apps was only this past saturday and the deadline for those applicants to have their LSDAS materials reach UH is June 15th. I think there will be a definate wait. However chances are if I don't get my decision by June I will probably have a nervous breakdown
I'm the same as alot of you guys, goin PT, not willing to leave Houston cuz I have a good job that I can't walk away from, plus I want to do a JD/MBA and STCL does not give me that option so I truly am UHLC or bust!!!
Batch,
LSN = http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com
I'm the same as alot of you guys, goin PT, not willing to leave Houston cuz I have a good job that I can't walk away from, plus I want to do a JD/MBA and STCL does not give me that option so I truly am UHLC or bust!!!
Batch,
LSN = http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com
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Speak of the WL devil, this was just posted on the UH admissions blog, just an FYI for you guys, no real groundbreaking news IMO:
"Many of you may now find yourselves on the UHLC waitlist with several questions, concerns, doubts…. Initially you may be wondering, “what does being on the waitlist mean”? Well for starters, your current position on the waitlist means that the UHLC Admissions Committee deemed you a qualified applicant for the J.D. program at the University of Houston. Furthermore, it means that in a perfect world–where we could accept anyone in this “qualified” category–we would be happy to have you join the class of 2013. Unfortunately, we do not live in that perfect world and simply are not in the position to offer you a seat in the class at this time. With that being said, in an effort to help ease your anxiety, here is an update about our waitlist process and what you can do in the meantime while you wait to hear from us.
Generally, we have utilized the waitlist each year and if history repeats itself—as it often does—we should use the list again. Many of you have called and asked if the list is ranked. It is not. Our process for the waitlist is identical to the regular admissions process: time-consuming and thorough. As with the initial file review, the Admissions Committee looks at each waitlisted file AGAIN and make a separate decision AGAIN. While admission largely depends on how the acceptance rate pans out from our originally accepted applicants, you should be at ease knowing that everyone on the waitlist gets a second shot for the vacant seats that open up from now until the end of the summer.
So what can you do while you wait to hear from us?
Letters of continued interest. If UHLC is your first choice and you want us to be aware of this fact, send us a letter for your file and stay in touch. This does not mean that you should call and email us daily or even weekly. Be sincere in your efforts and let us know that you remain interested throughout the summer months.
File updates. If you have recently graduate college and your last semester grades will blow us away, send them into LSAC to supplement your current transcripts on file. If you received honors upon graduating or have been admitted into an elite honors society, let us know about it by updating your resume. If you recently got a promotion at work, a new job, or have been selected to hold an esteemed role in an extracurricular organization—update that resume.
Because we start the review process all over again for the waitlist, consider sending in an additional letter of recommendation. BUT be warned, a letter that merely reiterates one already in your file will bore us. However, if you have a professor, mentor, or boss that would write a thorough and sincere letter on your behalf that highlights something new that we should know about you, that letter can be helpful in our review.
Be flexible. In the past, some of our waitlist applicants have received offers as late as mid-August. This is certainly a reality of the waitlist and you must prepare yourself for this type of timeline and uncertainty. Realistically, we know some applicants do not have the luxury to wait until late summer to make a decision due to family constraints, lease renewals, work obligations, etc. Try your best to keep us informed regarding your individual timelines and if you no longer wish to be considered on our waitlist after a specific period of time, we appreciate knowing these deadlines so we can pull your file from the list.
Bottom line, you must be patient and realistic throughout this process. Make sure to have another option lined up in the event that UHLC does not work out for you. We certainly wish we could take everyone who shows a strong interest in our law school, but that is not our reality.
If you have questions related to the waitlist that I haven’t answered above, feel free to write me a comment & I will do my best to answer your questions on Friday."
"Many of you may now find yourselves on the UHLC waitlist with several questions, concerns, doubts…. Initially you may be wondering, “what does being on the waitlist mean”? Well for starters, your current position on the waitlist means that the UHLC Admissions Committee deemed you a qualified applicant for the J.D. program at the University of Houston. Furthermore, it means that in a perfect world–where we could accept anyone in this “qualified” category–we would be happy to have you join the class of 2013. Unfortunately, we do not live in that perfect world and simply are not in the position to offer you a seat in the class at this time. With that being said, in an effort to help ease your anxiety, here is an update about our waitlist process and what you can do in the meantime while you wait to hear from us.
Generally, we have utilized the waitlist each year and if history repeats itself—as it often does—we should use the list again. Many of you have called and asked if the list is ranked. It is not. Our process for the waitlist is identical to the regular admissions process: time-consuming and thorough. As with the initial file review, the Admissions Committee looks at each waitlisted file AGAIN and make a separate decision AGAIN. While admission largely depends on how the acceptance rate pans out from our originally accepted applicants, you should be at ease knowing that everyone on the waitlist gets a second shot for the vacant seats that open up from now until the end of the summer.
So what can you do while you wait to hear from us?
Letters of continued interest. If UHLC is your first choice and you want us to be aware of this fact, send us a letter for your file and stay in touch. This does not mean that you should call and email us daily or even weekly. Be sincere in your efforts and let us know that you remain interested throughout the summer months.
File updates. If you have recently graduate college and your last semester grades will blow us away, send them into LSAC to supplement your current transcripts on file. If you received honors upon graduating or have been admitted into an elite honors society, let us know about it by updating your resume. If you recently got a promotion at work, a new job, or have been selected to hold an esteemed role in an extracurricular organization—update that resume.
Because we start the review process all over again for the waitlist, consider sending in an additional letter of recommendation. BUT be warned, a letter that merely reiterates one already in your file will bore us. However, if you have a professor, mentor, or boss that would write a thorough and sincere letter on your behalf that highlights something new that we should know about you, that letter can be helpful in our review.
Be flexible. In the past, some of our waitlist applicants have received offers as late as mid-August. This is certainly a reality of the waitlist and you must prepare yourself for this type of timeline and uncertainty. Realistically, we know some applicants do not have the luxury to wait until late summer to make a decision due to family constraints, lease renewals, work obligations, etc. Try your best to keep us informed regarding your individual timelines and if you no longer wish to be considered on our waitlist after a specific period of time, we appreciate knowing these deadlines so we can pull your file from the list.
Bottom line, you must be patient and realistic throughout this process. Make sure to have another option lined up in the event that UHLC does not work out for you. We certainly wish we could take everyone who shows a strong interest in our law school, but that is not our reality.
If you have questions related to the waitlist that I haven’t answered above, feel free to write me a comment & I will do my best to answer your questions on Friday."
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