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uconjak wrote:DOes it seem that acceptances this year are slower than normal? Everyone seems to be complaining about it.
1. how much behind are the law schools than normal
2. whats the reason?

stillwater wrote:

uconjak wrote:DOes it seem that acceptances this year are slower than normal? Everyone seems to be complaining about it.
1. how much behind are the law schools than normal
2. whats the reason?

If this is indeed true, it is most likely because there are less applicants this year (like last year) and they want to gauge what sort of availability there is out there. They proceed cautiously because they are crooks who want to cook the books the best they can. HTH.

havanese11 wrote:It's only slow if you are at their medians or below. If you are above their medians they have been very quick to admit you based on my experience.

havanese11 wrote:It's only slow if you are at their medians or below. If you are above their medians they have been very quick to admit you based on my experience.

JamesDean1955 wrote: For the T6 + Penn, at least, my opinion is they definitely are moving slower than last year.

Aroldis105 wrote:Some people have danced around this point, but because I'm bored and on the toilet, I'll elaborate. As a result of the dramatic decrease in applicants some schools are/will be facing some serious issues. I imagine the t-14s will continue with business as usual with the next 15-20 schools meeting their medians, albeit by more judicious (<--law word LOL) means. Schools ranked 30th to South Harmon Institute of Technology are potentially in a whole heap of trouble, the farther down the list you go, the more troublesome it becomes. Remember now that the LSAT is graded on a curve, this means that there will still be a similar number of 165s+. However, the more average scores, such as 158-165 (side note: I think of none of you as average, I'm sure you're all very special) are now substantially less abundant. As a result, your "run of the mill regional school" such as U Cincinnati or U Houston, now finds itself competing against schools like UNC and W&M. Well 9 times out of 10, a law school like W&M can make a more appealing offer (both financially and academically) than Houston. As you could imagine, schools even farther down the totem pole are in even more trouble.

So what does this mean for you!?
Well, if you got a 170+ I don't really give a damn about you, you'll figure it out and make lots of pesos.
However, the rest of us (I'll refer to us as the proletariat because Obama is President and class warfare is totally fetch right now) are finally in a position of power! For the last decade law schools have attempted to charge 100k+ for a product that retails closer to 60k. Now it's time for them to fork over that 40k, or risk another dramatic drop off in applications.

So yes, applications are moving slower if you're anywhere near the medians. If you walked through the school cafeteria and the first thing on your plate was broccoli you'd wait until the end of the line to see if you could get anything better, even if it mean't that some of the broccoli would get cold. However, it is my guess that when it's all said and done, most of these schools will eat more broccoli than they are used to, release some BS statement about "looking past the numbers and forming a different kind of law class" and at the end of the day we'll all be sexy lawyers who drink whiskey from tumblers at 11 in the morning

BeeTeeDubs, please don't respond with some stupid comment about my grammar or punctuation, because YOLO.

zackw618 wrote:I don't think so. I applied in early to mid-December, and I've had decisions from 4 out of 8 schools. I think it just seems like time drags on slower when you're in the process, instead of on the outside looking in.

Aroldis105 wrote:Some people have danced around this point, but because I'm bored and on the toilet, I'll elaborate. As a result of the dramatic decrease in applicants some schools are/will be facing some serious issues. I imagine the t-14s will continue with business as usual with the next 15-20 schools meeting their medians, albeit by more judicious (<--law word LOL) means. Schools ranked 30th to South Harmon Institute of Technology are potentially in a whole heap of trouble, the farther down the list you go, the more troublesome it becomes. Remember now that the LSAT is graded on a curve, this means that there will still be a similar number of 165s+. However, the more average scores, such as 158-165 (side note: I think of none of you as average, I'm sure you're all very special) are now substantially less abundant. As a result, your "run of the mill regional school" such as U Cincinnati or U Houston, now finds itself competing against schools like UNC and W&M. Well 9 times out of 10, a law school like W&M can make a more appealing offer (both financially and academically) than Houston. As you could imagine, schools even farther down the totem pole are in even more trouble.

So what does this mean for you!?
Well, if you got a 170+ I don't really give a damn about you, you'll figure it out and make lots of pesos.
However, the rest of us (I'll refer to us as the proletariat because Obama is President and class warfare is totally fetch right now) are finally in a position of power! For the last decade law schools have attempted to charge 100k+ for a product that retails closer to 60k. Now it's time for them to fork over that 40k, or risk another dramatic drop off in applications.

So yes, applications are moving slower if you're anywhere near the medians. If you walked through the school cafeteria and the first thing on your plate was broccoli you'd wait until the end of the line to see if you could get anything better, even if it mean't that some of the broccoli would get cold. However, it is my guess that when it's all said and done, most of these schools will eat more broccoli than they are used to, release some BS statement about "looking past the numbers and forming a different kind of law class" and at the end of the day we'll all be sexy lawyers who drink whiskey from tumblers at 11 in the morning

BeeTeeDubs, please don't respond with some stupid comment about my grammar or punctuation, because YOLO.

alwayssunnyinfl wrote: Please never stop doing whatever this is that you're doing.

Aroldis105 wrote:Some people have danced around this point, but because I'm bored and on the toilet, I'll elaborate.

helix23 wrote:

zackw618 wrote:I don't think so. I applied in early to mid-December, and I've had decisions from 4 out of 8 schools. I think it just seems like time drags on slower when you're in the process, instead of on the outside looking in.

A nice thought and waiting definitely sucks but some schools are going slower than last year. It isn't subjective.

dingbat wrote:

helix23 wrote:

zackw618 wrote:I don't think so. I applied in early to mid-December, and I've had decisions from 4 out of 8 schools. I think it just seems like time drags on slower when you're in the process, instead of on the outside looking in.

A nice thought and waiting definitely sucks but some schools are going slower than last year. It isn't subjective.

But then, other schools are going faster.
Don't overanalyze it, folks, just do it

bananasplit19 wrote:

Aroldis105 wrote:Some people have danced around this point, but because I'm bored and on the toilet, I'll elaborate. As a result of the dramatic decrease in applicants some schools are/will be facing some serious issues. I imagine the t-14s will continue with business as usual with the next 15-20 schools meeting their medians, albeit by more judicious (<--law word LOL) means. Schools ranked 30th to South Harmon Institute of Technology are potentially in a whole heap of trouble, the farther down the list you go, the more troublesome it becomes. Remember now that the LSAT is graded on a curve, this means that there will still be a similar number of 165s+. However, the more average scores, such as 158-165 (side note: I think of none of you as average, I'm sure you're all very special) are now substantially less abundant. As a result, your "run of the mill regional school" such as U Cincinnati or U Houston, now finds itself competing against schools like UNC and W&M. Well 9 times out of 10, a law school like W&M can make a more appealing offer (both financially and academically) than Houston. As you could imagine, schools even farther down the totem pole are in even more trouble.

So what does this mean for you!?
Well, if you got a 170+ I don't really give a damn about you, you'll figure it out and make lots of pesos.
However, the rest of us (I'll refer to us as the proletariat because Obama is President and class warfare is totally fetch right now) are finally in a position of power! For the last decade law schools have attempted to charge 100k+ for a product that retails closer to 60k. Now it's time for them to fork over that 40k, or risk another dramatic drop off in applications.

So yes, applications are moving slower if you're anywhere near the medians. If you walked through the school cafeteria and the first thing on your plate was broccoli you'd wait until the end of the line to see if you could get anything better, even if it mean't that some of the broccoli would get cold. However, it is my guess that when it's all said and done, most of these schools will eat more broccoli than they are used to, release some BS statement about "looking past the numbers and forming a different kind of law class" and at the end of the day we'll all be sexy lawyers who drink whiskey from tumblers at 11 in the morning

BeeTeeDubs, please don't respond with some stupid comment about my grammar or punctuation, because YOLO.

This makes an insane amount of sense.

That being said, stop trying to make "fetch" happen. It's not going to happen.

uconjak wrote:Thanks for all the comments. My idea is that the T-5 will most likely be at where they want to be, maybe down in class size. After all the market is saturated with lawyers. I got some fast acceptances from several of my "safe" schools mostly from T-20+. According to law school matcher. Reach schools, columbia, stanford, chicago. Target are basically the bottom half of the T14. I would like a t14 school. With my numbers (close) 168/3.9 i believe i have a better chance this year than i would have two years ago.
According to LASC web site it loks like the total numbers are down 20-25%. Last year they were down also, with several schools lowering their class size or lowering their numbers slightly. this puts the schools into a real pickle.

I think many schools are either
1. Taking applicants that are in their historical norms more quickly
2. Taking are looking at the softs more closely, esp. On those apps that are close to the norms 3. apps who are splittrs that they can average in to maintain their numbers.
4. Considering, lowering total class size.
5. Increase money and give it out more quickly to students to ge them commited quicker!

I believe that most schools will do a combination of all these strategies

Long and short of it i think those of us who meet or above the medians on either gpa or lsat have a better shot at those "reach" schools and a very good shot at the target schools and will get some pretty good money on top of it.