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- sabanist
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This is probably (definitely) dumb to ask about, but having spent my entire life in the southeast, I have no idea what to expect in terms of new england winters. I've seen snow fewer than ten times in my life, to give you some idea.
Do any of you dern yankees have any advice on what I should get (especially coats, rain/snow jackets, socks, etc)? I have Bean boots, but I feel like that's the only useful thing among all of my light hoodies and uninsulated coats. Links (and as little cost as possible because I'm a poor) would be greatly appreciated
Do any of you dern yankees have any advice on what I should get (especially coats, rain/snow jackets, socks, etc)? I have Bean boots, but I feel like that's the only useful thing among all of my light hoodies and uninsulated coats. Links (and as little cost as possible because I'm a poor) would be greatly appreciated
- domino
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Re: In at Harvard
never really figured this out, though i went to ug in western mass; however! i have found some things that worked here and there. for instance layers can be even better than a good coat. long underwear might be (sigh okay, is) dorky but it really works. plus the same sweaters/outer layers you can take off inside that you already have, just more of them at once than in warmer climes. a good pair of hunter galoshes worked in the snow for me with just thick socks (or two pairs on top of each other) when it got cold, so it sounds like you are all set w/your boots.sabanist wrote:This is probably (definitely) dumb to ask about, but having spent my entire life in the southeast, I have no idea what to expect in terms of new england winters. I've seen snow fewer than ten times in my life, to give you some idea.
Do any of you dern yankees have any advice on what I should get (especially coats, rain/snow jackets, socks, etc)? I have Bean boots, but I feel like that's the only useful thing among all of my light hoodies and uninsulated coats. Links (and as little cost as possible because I'm a poor) would be greatly appreciated
also i started out being all like, i don't want to wear a raincoat! i will carry this cute umbrella and only the couple of books i need! but by the end i had broken down and wore this big raincoat with layers under it and a backpack all the time, made life much easier.
ETA: Merry Christmas!!!! So excited for claw school!
- Mr. Elshal
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Re: In at Harvard
I'm in a hurry, so I don't have any links to port, but I'm from New York and I find that layers are generally the best option because, as cold as it is outside, it's usually warmer wherever you're going. At least if I wear layers I can adjust throughout the day. Just my 2 centssabanist wrote:This is probably (definitely) dumb to ask about, but having spent my entire life in the southeast, I have no idea what to expect in terms of new england winters. I've seen snow fewer than ten times in my life, to give you some idea.
Do any of you dern yankees have any advice on what I should get (especially coats, rain/snow jackets, socks, etc)? I have Bean boots, but I feel like that's the only useful thing among all of my light hoodies and uninsulated coats. Links (and as little cost as possible because I'm a poor) would be greatly appreciated
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Re: In at Harvard
Oh hey guys, in and most likely attending!
Also - just buy a warm coat, hat & gloves. Lived in Minnesota for four years; we'll all be fine.
Also - just buy a warm coat, hat & gloves. Lived in Minnesota for four years; we'll all be fine.
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- dcg2120
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What fun! Snow is the best. You'll love it. And definitely not dumb to ask about--if I was going down South I would have no clue how to deal with it. Here is my much-too-long opinion. This is my opinion coming from rural Maine, where we have to trudge through more snow than perhaps people in Cambridge do, but maybe it'll be a good approach for someone used to warmer weather (TL;DR: waterproof outer layer, a few warm long-sleeved shirts, waterproof boots and long underwear/lined pants will get you through the worst of it).sabanist wrote:This is probably (definitely) dumb to ask about, but having spent my entire life in the southeast, I have no idea what to expect in terms of new england winters. I've seen snow fewer than ten times in my life, to give you some idea.
Do any of you dern yankees have any advice on what I should get (especially coats, rain/snow jackets, socks, etc)? I have Bean boots, but I feel like that's the only useful thing among all of my light hoodies and uninsulated coats. Links (and as little cost as possible because I'm a poor) would be greatly appreciated
I'll second the above posters' advice on wearing layers. I would add that it's usually best to find a jacket with a waterproof "shell" and some kind of lining. Warm jackets are significantly less so when you get wet, and Boston can sometimes produce some mixed rain/snow precipitation that is pretty icky without a waterproof layer. L.L.Bean's "warm-up jacket" has a nice waterproof outside and a fleece lining--keeps you warm when it's zipped up, but it's not too bulky.
Usually I wear a nice, thick shirt between a t-shirt and that outer layer. I would recommend something like Bean's flannel-lined corduroy shirt (LinkRemoved) or Cabela's flannel-lined "stonewash" canvas shirt (LinkRemoved). The advantage to the latter is that it would give you more protection against the wind. If you want a really nice shirt to wear instead of a jacket you could spring for Bean's water-resistant, fleece-lined canvas shirt, but that's probably not necessary. 90% of the time that I spend outdoors I can get by with an undershirt, a long-sleeve shirt, and the jacket I linked to above; as a bonus, I can tuck in the shirt and look almost decent if I need to go to nice restaurant or something.
That said, you might find it worthwhile to have a heavy coat for extra-cold days or for making snow angels. Again, if you're only buying one coat I would go for something waterproof and heavy. I have something like Bean's Rugged Ridge Parka, but that might be overkill.
Re: long underwear, I've never been fond of it myself but my parents swear by it. I keep a pair of lined pants instead (something like this). Disadvantage is that you have to wear a specific pair of pants if you want the extra warmth, advantage is that you don't have to wear long underwear to be warm.
Also recommended: waterproof, but comfortable, boots. I have a pair of Bean's Trail Model Walker. Not a cheap pair of boots, but I can wear them year-round as walking shoes and they last a while. A hat if you're a hat person, and some warm socks (I wear Wigwam).
Sorry if this sounds like an L.L.Bean commercial. I'm from Maine, so I might be biased, but they have really good stuff. It's not the cheapest, but they will last forever. Furthermore, they guarantee their clothing for life, so if anything you buy gets beat up you can get it fixed or replaced for free (or give you a gift certificate for original value). Not a gimmick, either--my father bought a backpack from them before I was born and hasn't paid for a new one since. New, the whole ensemble might be a little pricey, but they have a few outlet stores where you can get some nice discounts.
- kingsfield69
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Re: In at Harvard
Another veteran (USAF officer) ... also married, w/ 2 kids. Congrats!ns2675 wrote:I'm another military veteran (USMC enlisted). Also married with no kids. I'm pretty sure there's at least one more veteran in here too. Also, merry Christmas to everyone!ksbRambo wrote:Checking in. JS2 on 12/21. Excited to be able to post here. Married, no kids. Any other military veterans here?
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Do you all think we need to buy this sort of stuff before coming to Cambridge or could we buy it as winter approaches next year?dcg2120 wrote:sabanist wrote: Sorry if this sounds like an L.L.Bean commercial.
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I would wait til you get here and get a feel for the weather. Plus, you might get better deals by checking out Boston second-hand shops (I'm guessing--I don't go shopping in the city much) and New Hampshire outlet stores (no sales tax!)--there's a pretty good bus line that goes through Concord and Manchester for the carless.2013hopeful:D wrote:Do you all think we need to buy this sort of stuff before coming to Cambridge or could we buy it as winter approaches next year?
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We have a ton of veterans on campus, I have been pleasantly surprised with the support that the administration gives us.kingsfield69 wrote:Another veteran (USAF officer) ... also married, w/ 2 kids. Congrats!ns2675 wrote:I'm another military veteran (USMC enlisted). Also married with no kids. I'm pretty sure there's at least one more veteran in here too. Also, merry Christmas to everyone!ksbRambo wrote:Checking in. JS2 on 12/21. Excited to be able to post here. Married, no kids. Any other military veterans here?
- sabanist
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Thank y'all so much for the help! I really appreciate the advice and links.
Their customer service really makes the premium worth it for me.
My family are huge fans too, so I was actually hoping for Bean recommendationsdcg2120 wrote:Sorry if this sounds like an L.L.Bean commercial.
Their customer service really makes the premium worth it for me.
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Lifelong Northeasterner and sometimes through-the-winter cyclist here: I highly recommend any article of clothing made of light-grade merino wool. It's very light, it keeps you warm, and it wicks away sweat, which is essential when you have to layer up for the outdoors and then head into an over-heated building afterwards.sabanist wrote:This is probably (definitely) dumb to ask about, but having spent my entire life in the southeast, I have no idea what to expect in terms of new england winters. I've seen snow fewer than ten times in my life, to give you some idea.
Do any of you dern yankees have any advice on what I should get (especially coats, rain/snow jackets, socks, etc)? I have Bean boots, but I feel like that's the only useful thing among all of my light hoodies and uninsulated coats. Links (and as little cost as possible because I'm a poor) would be greatly appreciated
"Smartwool" is a reliable brand but expensive at list price. Poke around online for deals. LL Bean makes some nice Merino stuff if you can find it on sale. Really, there are too many manufacturers to name, but as long as it's made of merino wool and it has good reviews, you'll probably be happy with it.
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- kingsfield69
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Seat deposit mailed. Withdrawals emails sent. Cambridge or bust!
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Same here, Kingsfield. Congrats!!!kingsfield69 wrote:Seat deposit mailed. Withdrawals emails sent. Cambridge or bust!
- StormyDay
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Re: In at Harvard
+1 on leggings and boots with good traction. I went to UG in Wisconsin and I never wore winter boots, only waterproof hiking boots with good traction. SmartWool is a great brand for socks and shirts, although it is expensive.edgeofthenight wrote:I grew up in New England, spent the past four years in upstate NY. dcg2120's post is fantastic, so I only have some very small things to add:
1. I wear thicker leggings under my jeans instead of long underwear. If you have those lying around already, you can save money
2. Above all else, make sure your boots have really really good traction. You can always double up on socks to keep warm, and you don't want to be sliding around.
3. I completely agree that a waterproof coat is a necessity, but you can get a nicer wool coat (for formal things and such) decently cheap if you scope out sales. I have a Calvin Klein peacoat that I adore and got for around $150 five or six years ago. They hold up well!
4. If you want to save money, wait until you get up here and see how you react to the cold - I bought my hardcore winter coat before college and I've only worn it a few times.
For those of you on a budget you can get great deals at http://www.sierratradingpost.com/. The great deals come and go, so check back every now and then. Also, if you sign up for their e-mails they'll send you extra discounts.
- sabanist
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I have plenty of leggings, so not having to buy new stuff is a relief.
Thank y'all SO much. I'm now slightly less scared of the cold.
Thank y'all SO much. I'm now slightly less scared of the cold.
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Re: In at Harvard
I just watched Legally Blonde with my ex-gf. Surprisingly good.
Edit: Elle Woods will be my role model as I tackle Harvard. Don't judge.
Edit to my edit. Elle Woods AND Jed Bartlett*
Edit: Elle Woods will be my role model as I tackle Harvard. Don't judge.
Edit to my edit. Elle Woods AND Jed Bartlett*
- thelawschoolproject
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JedBartlett wrote:I just watched Legally Blonde with my ex-gf. Surprisingly good.
Edit: Elle Woods will be my role model as I tackle Harvard. Don't judge.
Edit to my edit. Elle Woods AND Jed Bartlett*
At the beginning of the year they totally showed Legally Blonde as one of our orientation events.
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I remember, cause I took notes on the movie just in case.thelawschoolproject wrote:JedBartlett wrote:I just watched Legally Blonde with my ex-gf. Surprisingly good.
Edit: Elle Woods will be my role model as I tackle Harvard. Don't judge.
Edit to my edit. Elle Woods AND Jed Bartlett*
At the beginning of the year they totally showed Legally Blonde as one of our orientation events.
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delusional wrote: I remember, cause I took notes on the movie just in case.
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- Doorkeeper
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I'm so sick of the rampant Legally Blonde trolling at HLS.
By all means, change your facebook cover page to Elle Woods. I'm totally not judging you.
Grrrrrr.
By all means, change your facebook cover page to Elle Woods. I'm totally not judging you.
Grrrrrr.
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I also read "One L" (corny Christmas gift from an uncle). Can any of you current HLS students attest to how true/untrue it is?
- englawyer
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not really true. 1L can be a ton of work but it really depends on how much work you want to put into it. as a counterpoint to 1L try to get a hold of "Brush with the law". (although I think orgies/drugs are far less prevalent than portrayed in that book).JedBartlett wrote:I also read "One L" (corny Christmas gift from an uncle). Can any of you current HLS students attest to how true/untrue it is?
- thelawschoolproject
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That book chronicles the author's time at HLS during the 70s. Any HLS grad will tell you the school is completely different now. IMO competition is far less than it was then. Many people in my section just want to stay away from LPs and they're good. I haven't met one person gunning for the decorative DS grade, either. I get the feeling that my section is more laid back than most in that respect, though. Also, most people have interviews for summer work already and people seem generally happy.JedBartlett wrote:I also read "One L" (corny Christmas gift from an uncle). Can any of you current HLS students attest to how true/untrue it is?
In response to your question, I have no idea how true the book is as I know nothing about the author's life. As to how well it depicts life at HLS in 2012/13? IMO, it isn't an accurate depiction insofar as grades/competition are concerned.
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