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Finally got my status checker today. Under review since 11/20. 165, 3.6.

CU is somewhat tempting but those are some pretty bad employment numbers, especially when you see the 8% school-funded rate.

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rebexness wrote:

willio wrote:Finally got my status checker today. Under review since 11/20. 165, 3.6.

CU is somewhat tempting but those are some pretty bad employment numbers, especially when you see the 8% school-funded rate.

General consensus is that a lot of that is self-selection.

What does that mean? That 8% would rather work for the school than go out in the real world?

rebexness wrote: No, that rich hippies would rather snowboard than work.

Ha! Wouldn't we all.

Checking in! Complete as of 11/30.

3.8/172, which sounds kinda weird I guess until you realize it's Colorado. And if you live in Colorado, you know how terrible it would be to leave--even for three years.

cslouisck wrote:Checking in! Complete as of 11/30.

3.8/172, which sounds kinda weird I guess until you realize it's Colorado. And if you live in Colorado, you know how terrible it would be to leave--even for three years.

Also checking in! I left CO for college, but would love to have the chance to come back

I'm a current CU 2L avoiding finals/generally available to answer questions, if anyone has them.

Another 2L available for questions.

willio wrote:Finally got my status checker today. Under review since 11/20. 165, 3.6.

CU is somewhat tempting but those are some pretty bad employment numbers, especially when you see the 8% school-funded rate.

Employment is there but you have to work for it. Overall, the situation is very poor considering the cost of attendance.

With a 165, 3.6 I doubt you get into school with much better employment though. Minus a few execptions like ND, 20-50 all have pretty much the same employment when you factor in regional firm sizes and COL.

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Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:

willio wrote:Finally got my status checker today. Under review since 11/20. 165, 3.6.

CU is somewhat tempting but those are some pretty bad employment numbers, especially when you see the 8% school-funded rate.

Employment is there but you have to work for it. Overall, the situation is very poor considering the cost of attendance.

With a 165, 3.6 I doubt you get into school with much better employment though. Minus a few execptions like ND, 20-50 all have pretty much the same employment when you factor in regional firm sizes and COL.

I think the caveat here is that some of the comparable schools have much bigger legal markets than Denver attached to them. I've discussed the very few number of SA spots available in Denver. It's not very many. During OCI, there were probably 40-ish firms. Most of them were looking for 1 or 2 new SAs for their Denver office. Not to incite AA trolling, but if you're a URM, Pledge to Diversity is going to open a *ton* of doors for you. If you're hoping to get a job through OCI, CU is a bad choice.

The flip side of that: it's easy to get to know all of the major folks in the practice area you want to practice in because there's not as many of them. So, if you're willing to go down to Denver to meet these people, it's easy. You're not going to be sitting on a job offer during fall of your 3L year, but you can easily make yourself the first person these people call when they're looking to hire someone.

in re hippyness: you'll be fine. I don't really notice it ever. I think you probably should be more worried about the impact of the undergrads than hippies. They're pretty easy to avoid though. If you find it overbearing and want a more quiet, suburbia (and to save a lot of money), Longmont, Louisville, etc. are great choices. It's really not that far from Denver and you can easily live in Denver if you want.

LeDique wrote:
I think the caveat here is that some of the comparable schools have much bigger legal markets than Denver attached to them.

Agree. Yeah like UGA-Atlanta for example. We also have an incredibly small "big-law" scene here. Still, for the median student, the opportunities at CU are going to be just like the opportunities at Wisco, UF, Iowa, UGA, UW etc.. Bigger firms in Atlanta may make UGA large law firm score way higher, but for the average joe and jane the only real difference is one will give you a job in Colorado and one will give you a job in Georgia. Also, lets not forget students, myself included, who want to work in Colorado but not Denver. CU is pretty much the only way to go for this..

LeDique wrote:If you're hoping to get a job through OCI, CU is a bad choice.

Agree, unless you are a URM. Scrolling through our job site gives you the impression that Denver is in some serious need for diversity. Go figure...

LeDique wrote:The flip side of that: it's easy to get to know all of the major folks in the practice area you want to practice in because there's not as many of them. So, if you're willing to go down to Denver to meet these people, it's easy. You're not going to be sitting on a job offer during fall of your 3L year, but you can easily make yourself the first person these people call when they're looking to hire someone.

Agree. And unlike DU, you won't find any CU alumni that speak poorly of their school. Everyone "loved their time in Boulder" and would love to talk to you about it.

LeDique wrote:in re hippyness: you'll be fine. I don't really notice it ever. I think you probably should be more worried about the impact of the undergrads than hippies. They're pretty easy to avoid though. If you find it overbearing and want a more quiet, suburbia (and to save a lot of money), Longmont, Louisville, etc. are great choices. It's really not that far from Denver and you can easily live in Denver if you want.

Totally agree. The hippiness is a non-issue. You will only see them on pearl street, especially near the courthouse, or in front of the library on Canyon. They only seem numerous because they stand out-- really you see the same 100-150 hippies. There are around 100,000 people in the immediate surrounding area. Non-issue.

If you are coming from a small school or from the work place, be aware that there are what, 25000 undergrads at CU? They pretty much all live in Boulder. There are also a lot of rich old people... its a unique mix. The good part is that the law school is attached to the beautiful campus but at the very south end. I commute and just see law students all day, never any undergrads.

nickb285 wrote:Randolph, is Boulder as hippie-dippie as it's made out to be? I'm fairly liberal, but I shower, have a job, and don't care for weed. Are there things to do and places to hang out in Boulder that cater to an older/more professional/less free-lovin' crowd, or are the nightlife and social activities mostly centered around Funyuns and philosophical conversations?

Boulder is very wealthy and has a large professional crowd, whether you are in to that or not. Probably like, 100 nice restaurants/wine bars within two miles of downtown? I don't even think I'm making that up. I dunno maybe 80? LeDique?

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:

nickb285 wrote:Randolph, is Boulder as hippie-dippie as it's made out to be? I'm fairly liberal, but I shower, have a job, and don't care for weed. Are there things to do and places to hang out in Boulder that cater to an older/more professional/less free-lovin' crowd, or are the nightlife and social activities mostly centered around Funyuns and philosophical conversations?

Boulder is very wealthy and has a large professional crowd, whether you are in to that or not. Probably like, 100 nice restaurants/wine bars within two miles of downtown? I don't even think I'm making that up. I dunno maybe 80? LeDique?

I never eat out, but yeah - there's a ton of restaurants in town that are more upscale.

I also never have been to the Sink. It's on the Hill. That's where the undergrads are.

rebexness wrote:Is the Sink as credited as it appears?

Haha. I've only been two or three times. Pretty amazing artwork on the walls, good food, and cheap drinks. However, it is close to the "hill." I stick to pearl, 28th street, and of course the Dark Horse. Because I live 10 minutes from Boulder and 15 from Denver, I also go to LoDo.

rebexness wrote:Is the Sink as credited as it appears?

Probably not. As others have said, the Hill is undegrad territory, although my only experience at the Sink preceded an excellent concert at the Fox, so ymmv.

On the other hand, I'd suggest you consider living in Denver and making the commute. 40 minutes each way on the bus (which is free as a student). Colfax Ave between Grant and York in Denver is absolutely as credited as it appears. So are the restaurants on 17th street in Uptown.

I'm not a CU student, but if you're from out of state and considering it, you should know there's a friendly rivalry of sorts between Denver and (The People's Republic of) Boulder. I'm a partisan of course, but I'd suggest checking out Capitol Hill, Uptown, and LoHi in Denver before committing to living next to campus--each offers access to better food, better bars and better sporting events than does Boulder.

cslouisck wrote:

rebexness wrote:Is the Sink as credited as it appears?

Probably not. As others have said, the Hill is undegrad territory, although my only experience at the Sink preceded an excellent concert at the Fox, so ymmv.

On the other hand, I'd suggest you consider living in Denver and making the commute. 40 minutes each way on the bus (which is free as a student). Colfax Ave between Grant and York in Denver is absolutely as credited as it appears. So are the restaurants on 17th street in Uptown.

I'm not a CU student, but if you're from out of state and considering it, you should know there's a friendly rivalry of sorts between Denver and (The People's Republic of) Boulder. I'm a partisan of course, but I'd suggest checking out Capitol Hill, Uptown, and LoHi in Denver before committing to living next to campus--each offers access to better food, better bars and better sporting events than does Boulder.

UG at DU. I second this. Cap Hill, Bonnie Brae and a number of other areas in Denver are much more interesting. Growing up in CO my entire life I've always been bored with Boulder - it's nice, but the hype is undeserved.

As for the law school - when can we expect to hear anything? Just got my status checker last week after submitting about a month ago...

Though CU does have a fun tailgating scene, Denver has way better sports. I don't think Denver has better bars and restaurants, just more of them. Boulder is smaller, so it's easier to get around but you can start to see the same people if you're really social. The People's Republic of Boulder thing is somewhat true and somewhat false. For example, if you look at the latest election results, you'll see that Denver is just as liberal as Boulder. I think a lot of it comes from a perceived snobby attitude from Boulderites.

The truth is both places are awesome, which is why a lot of people live in the middle or commute to Boulder from Denver. If you decide to live in Boulder, there are organized trips to Denver to Nuggets games, bar association happy hours, concerns, etc. You will be fine either way.

rebexness wrote:

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote: Denver has way better sports.

Denver has the best sports. I'm talking about you, Misters Decker and Manning.

I dispute this claim. I got a ticket for 90 dollars to the Broncos playoff game last year, through the team, on the Thursday before the game. That shouldn't be possible.

How has the internship search been going for you current students? I was recently accepted to Denver with a nice scholarship and am still waiting to hear from CU. I love Colorado and want to practice in the Mountain West so I am hoping I have a choice to make.

Also, best of luck with finals!