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Post by wannabelawstudent » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:02 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:According to LSN, so far there have been 97 acceptances. Last year, only about 350 WUSTL applicants self-reported data and I think that class profile said over 3,800 applications were received.

Even if we were generous to LSN and said that 1 in 3 acceptances were reported on their website, that would mean they admitted way over their likely class target of 200. Of course, they have a super-secret yield formula, but with the pressure they're probably feeling to keep class size down and LSAT median up, I really wouldn't be surprised if they take their time on more acceptances and start trickling things out as admitted students start withdrawing their applications.
I don't like the sound of that.

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Post by crossingfingers » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:04 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:According to LSN, so far there have been 97 acceptances. Last year, only about 350 WUSTL applicants self-reported data and I think that class profile said over 3,800 applications were received.

Even if we were generous to LSN and said that 1 in 3 acceptances were reported on their website, that would mean they admitted way over their likely class target of 200. Of course, they have a super-secret yield formula, but with the pressure they're probably feeling to keep class size down and LSAT median up, I really wouldn't be surprised if they take their time on more acceptances and start trickling things out as admitted students start withdrawing their applications.
LSN is still being ultra-slow for me so I'll just check with you. The 350 you mention is last year's reported accepted students, correct? I'm not trying nit-pick your post, but 97 reported admits this year v. 350 total applicants from last year would make me feel less optimistic about big admit waves, which is what I'm rain-dancing for currently and LSN is not cooperating.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:06 pm

crossingfingers wrote:
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:According to LSN, so far there have been 97 acceptances. Last year, only about 350 WUSTL applicants self-reported data and I think that class profile said over 3,800 applications were received.

Even if we were generous to LSN and said that 1 in 3 acceptances were reported on their website, that would mean they admitted way over their likely class target of 200. Of course, they have a super-secret yield formula, but with the pressure they're probably feeling to keep class size down and LSAT median up, I really wouldn't be surprised if they take their time on more acceptances and start trickling things out as admitted students start withdrawing their applications.
LSN is still being ultra-slow for me so I'll just check with you. The 350 you mention is last year's reported accepted students, correct? I'm not trying nit-pick your post, but 97 reported admits this year v. 350 total applicants from last year would make me feel less optimistic about big admit waves, which is what I'm rain-dancing for currently and LSN is not cooperating.
I used mylsn.info to pull the information because LSN was being slow for me, too. That was the total number of applicants who responded with both a GPA and an LSAT score. I think there were a total of 240-something acceptances.

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Post by shntn » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:06 pm

crossingfingers wrote:
LSN is still being ultra-slow for me so I'll just check with you. The 350 you mention is last year's reported accepted students, correct? I'm not trying nit-pick your post, but 97 reported admits this year v. 350 total applicants from last year would make me feel less optimistic about big admit waves, which is what I'm rain-dancing for currently and LSN is not cooperating.
350 sounds about right for all self-reported applications for a cycle. LSN is a really small sample size.

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Post by alwayssunnyinfl » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:09 pm

shntn wrote: LSN is a really small sample size.
This is a really important detail that a lot of people forget on TLS. If LSN were a representative sample, NYU had an acceptance rate of 62% last year while Berkeley's was 28%.

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Post by crossingfingers » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:18 pm

Awesome. 240 reported acceptances still leaves more than enough room for optimism. I think this cycle is about to get really weird in April and May, but WUSTL is one of those I'm most curious to see, given their LSAT median drop last year. Good luck to those waiting for scholarship offers (but not too much good luck, I still need enough withdrawals to make a little room in that class for me and Dr. Who, of course).

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Post by JayJones78 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:30 pm

crossingfingers wrote:Awesome. 240 reported acceptances still leaves more than enough room for optimism. I think this cycle is about to get really weird in April and May, but WUSTL is one of those I'm most curious to see, given their LSAT median drop last year. Good luck to those waiting for scholarship offers (but not too much good luck, I still need enough withdrawals to make a little room in that class for me and Dr. Who, of course).
For some reason I feel like it's going to be a long wait for me with most apps

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Post by UAX09 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:30 pm

When you guys look at LST reports, you should keep in mind the percentage of students that each law school hires. WUSTL hires less than one percent of its grads. Notre Dame hires 23% of its grads. Overall Notre Dame has a higher employment scores because it hires it grads and gives the appearance that its students get real legal jobs. Cardozo is the same way. It hires about nine percent of its grads. Even Vanderbilt hires 16 percent of its grads.

I think that WUSTL employment figures are respectable compared to its peer schools which are desperately trying to prop up employment figures by hiring their own grads. WUSTL may not be a big law feeder, but a respectable number of students get "mid-law" jobs which pay six-figures.
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Post by shntn » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:31 pm

UAX09 wrote:When you guys look at LST reports, you should keep in mind the percentage of students that each law school hires. WUSTL hires less than one percent of its grads. Notre Dame hires 23% of its grads. Overall Notre Dame has a higher employment scores because it hires it grads and gives the appearance that its students get real legal jobs. Cardozo is the same way. It hires about nine percent of its grads. Even Vanderbilt hires 16 percent of its grads.

I think that WUSTL employment figures are respectable compared to its peer schools which are desperately trying to prop up employment figures by hiring their own grads.
School-funded jobs are LOLOL.

Luckily LST puts that figure front seat and center on each school's profile page. It's crazy how endemic that is, even well into the T14.

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Post by DoveBodyWash » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:35 pm

UAX09 wrote:When you guys look at LST reports, you should keep in mind the percentage of students that each law school hires. WUSTL hires less than one percent of its grads. Notre Dame hires 23% of its grads. Overall Notre Dame has a higher employment scores because it hires it grads and gives the appearance that its students get real legal jobs. Cardozo is the same way. It hires about nine percent of its grads. Even Vanderbilt hires 16 percent of its grads.

I think that WUSTL employment figures are respectable compared to its peer schools which are desperately trying to prop up employment figures by hiring their own grads. WUSTL may not be a big law feeder, but a respectable number of students get "mid-law" jobs which pay six-figures.
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Post by Homelandsagreatshow » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:51 pm

Man, that wustl acceptance is looking better and better every page of this thread... I'm starting to think that there a legitimate chance that I'll end up going to the school predicted in the "predict the above poster's school"

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Post by jmh14 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:09 pm

Just wondering if anyone has been accepted after requesting an interview instead being asked to do one? I know that most people that got asked to interview got accepted, but I'm debating whether or not requesting one really has any effect on the admissions process.

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Post by DoveBodyWash » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:12 pm

jmh14 wrote:Just wondering if anyone has been accepted after requesting an interview instead being asked to do one? I know that most people that got asked to interview got accepted, but I'm debating whether or not requesting one really has any effect on the admissions process.
1. It seems like a lot of people who requested interviews were applicants who went complete in January. So we'll have to wait and see what their decisions are, but it's getting around that time for decisions to be distributed for those with January complete dates

2. I don't think it could hurt to request one..if anything it would show that you're interested, which is never a bad thing.

3. I wouldn't worry too much with your numbers. 3.9/165 is more than solid
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Post by dougfunny » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:21 pm

cusenation wrote:
jmh14 wrote:Just wondering if anyone has been accepted after requesting an interview instead being asked to do one? I know that most people that got asked to interview got accepted, but I'm debating whether or not requesting one really has any effect on the admissions process.
1. It seems like a lot of people who requested interviews were applicants who went complete in January. So we'll have to wait and see what their decisions are, but it's getting around that time for decisions to be distributed for those with January complete dates

2. I don't think it could hurt to request one..if anything it would show that you're interested, which is never a bad thing.

3. I wouldn't worry too much with your numbers. 3.9/165 is more than solid
(GIVE ME YOUR GPA GAH)
I applied in mid-January, requested an interview around the first of February, had my interview on February 6, and was granted admission via phone. I agree with what Cuse said that it couldn't hurt and would show you are interested.

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Post by jmh14 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:27 pm

dougfunny wrote:
cusenation wrote:
jmh14 wrote:Just wondering if anyone has been accepted after requesting an interview instead being asked to do one? I know that most people that got asked to interview got accepted, but I'm debating whether or not requesting one really has any effect on the admissions process.
1. It seems like a lot of people who requested interviews were applicants who went complete in January. So we'll have to wait and see what their decisions are, but it's getting around that time for decisions to be distributed for those with January complete dates

2. I don't think it could hurt to request one..if anything it would show that you're interested, which is never a bad thing.

3. I wouldn't worry too much with your numbers. 3.9/165 is more than solid
(GIVE ME YOUR GPA GAH)
I applied in mid-January, requested an interview around the first of February, had my interview on February 6, and was granted admission via phone. I agree with what Cuse said that it couldn't hurt and would show you are interested.
Thanks guys, and that's really encouraging news dougfunny, congrats!

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Post by nolongermissing » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:33 pm

No movement since the 1st week of November. I wish they would just ding me already.

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Post by dproduct » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:35 pm

nolongermissing wrote:No movement since the 1st week of November. I wish they would just ding me already.
Have some faith. Did you interview? Request an interview?

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Re: WUSTL c/o 2016

Post by shntn » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:35 pm

nolongermissing wrote:No movement since the 1st week of November.
Sounds like something Grandma told me at Christmas.

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Post by nolongermissing » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:38 pm

dproduct wrote:
nolongermissing wrote:No movement since the 1st week of November. I wish they would just ding me already.
Have some faith. Did you interview? Request an interview?
No interview. I didn't know about this requesting an interview thing until 2 minutes ago. Probably too late for that. Oh well, I have other offers on the table.

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Post by andy261 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:00 am

shntn wrote:
Xs20 wrote:
wannabelawstudent wrote:Geez guys, just be patient, it'll come when it comes.
LOLing so hard :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by JayJones78 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:25 am

Spikedude wrote:
JayJones78 wrote:
Xs20 wrote:
JayJones78 wrote: Is the general notion that they are going to hold off accepting below 25th URMs as late as they can still holds?
I'm just speculating too, but it would make sense for schools to do this since they don't really have an incentive to hurry up and admit someone below both 25ths. That means that they have to matriculate someone above both 75ths to balance it out, which costs them $$$. I agree with sunny in that they're probably going to wait until after they release scholarships to make a bunch more decisions, so they can feel out their class size and make decisions accordingly.
Is my 3.41 below their 25th? I believe so
I'm a 168 3.1 URM (not AA) and I was accepted, keep hope alive brudda.
Thanks, but it's my 151 LSAT that's bringing me down aka will prob eventually make me get my head shrunk in the event the all schools will say NO NO NO to me

(Edit: think of Destiny's Child singing when reading this NO NO NO {revealing how old I am here taking about 90s singles})

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Post by Dmini7 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:33 am

Is my 3.41 below their 25th? I believe so
Thanks, but it's my 151 LSAT that's bringing me down aka will prob eventually make me get my head shrunk in the event the all schools will say NO NO NO to me
Don't give up yet Jay.
http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats

Two URM's have been accepted with similar LSAT numbers and worse GPA's(assuming they are not flames). Your GPA puts you above the 25th as far as I can tell. I think you still have a shot man.

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Post by JayJones78 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:39 am

Dmini7 wrote:
Is my 3.41 below their 25th? I believe so
Thanks, but it's my 151 LSAT that's bringing me down aka will prob eventually make me get my head shrunk in the event the all schools will say NO NO NO to me
Don't give up yet Jay.
http://washu.lawschoolnumbers.com/stats

Two URM's have been accepted with similar LSAT numbers and worse GPA's(assuming they are not flames). Your GPA puts you above the 25th as far as I can tell. I think you still have a shot man.
Thanks! I have faith but prepare myself for the worst at all times. As of now I'm basically waiting to be surprised.

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