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Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:29 am
by ProfitsProphets
Applied on the very last day applications were open, I have a 136 LSAT, and I have been in review 10 weeks now (and counting).
Now before the "retake the test" comments come flooding in, I'm retaking the test on 10/1, barring the unexpected.
3.65/136
URM
Strong app
5 years paralegal exp.
Applied to 1 school - Hastings LEOP.
No one thinks I'll get in, but what's so wrong with me feeling excited about the possibility? Trust me, my app isn't simply, "Let me in because I'm a minority." I get attacked because the idea of URM and Low LSAT score seems to bring out the worst in some people.
I'm just pointing out that contrary to popular belief a 136 did not get auto-rejected. And I would like to "share my experience" without the backlash.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:42 am
by Kabuo
At least it's not in the splitter thread anymore. GL OP, but I really don't think the fact that you've been in review for 10 weeks means anything at all. Hopefully it does though, and then this thread will probably be a great help to someone.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 5:51 am
by 3ThrowAway99
I think a lot of ppl acknowledge that there are some fairly extreme exceptions to normal trends in admissions. It's just that when it happens it is a rare event, and I think it is either tied to extremely good softs or some other special status. Otherwise, admissions is fairly formulaic as far as I can tell (predictably based on numbers). But I don't think that schools generally 'auto-reject' applicants in the sense of basically tossing the app if the numbers aren't at a certain level; I think all apps are at least (cursorily) reviewed. But in general, certain numbers can place a person in what is for all intents and purposes "auto-reject" land (in that it is just a matter of time before the rejection).
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:12 am
by theturkeyisfat
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Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:25 am
by Eponymous
exceptio regulam probat.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:36 am
by aliarrow
Just because it's in review for 10 weeks doesn't mean it isn't auto-reject...
What is this?
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:26 am
by mrwarre85
I'm still convinced he is a troll.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:31 am
by whymeohgodno
aliarrow wrote:Just because it's in review for 10 weeks doesn't mean it isn't auto-reject...
What is this?
+1
It's probably reasoning like this which contributed to your amazing LSAT score.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:36 am
by geoduck
You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:44 am
by mrwarre85
geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
True story: because my dad is a bad guy, he took the LSAT with me the first time I took it, simply to mind fuck me. He lucked out and was placed one row behind me and the whole time he kept clearing his throat real loud and making awkward comments to the girls sitting by him at every break. My dad is a 60 year old alcoholic and he didn't give two shits to the wind about his score-- he got a 137.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:45 am
by ahduth
geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
I did one point better than that. It was awesome.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:45 am
by aliarrow
mrwarre85 wrote:geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
True story: because my dad is a bad guy, he took the LSAT with me the first time I took it, simply to mind fuck me. He lucked out and was placed one row behind me and the whole time he kept clearing his throat real loud and making awkward comments to the girls sitting by him at every break. My dad is a 60 year old alcoholic and he didn't give two shits to the wind about his score-- he got a 137.
180.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:46 am
by ahduth
mrwarre85 wrote:geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
True story: because my dad is a bad guy, he took the LSAT with me the first time I took it, simply to mind fuck me. He lucked out and was placed one row behind me and the whole time he kept clearing his throat real loud and making awkward comments to the girls sitting by him at every break. My dad is a 60 year old alcoholic and he didn't give two shits to the wind about his score-- he got a 137.
That's some twisted shit right there.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:47 am
by aliarrow
And wtf? You were applying to Cornell in 09 with a 136? Yous Trollin
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:48 am
by BeaverHunter
You haven't been accepted anywhere. It is May. This does not bode well for your cycle. Please update us when and if you do get accepted. Until that time, no numbers "myth" has been debunked. A 136 is a dreadful score and should make you honestly assess your ability to be successful in a competitive law program.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:48 am
by whymeohgodno
mrwarre85 wrote:geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
True story: because my dad is a bad guy, he took the LSAT with me the first time I took it, simply to mind fuck me. He lucked out and was placed one row behind me and the whole time he kept clearing his throat real loud and making awkward comments to the girls sitting by him at every break. My dad is a 60 year old alcoholic and he didn't give two shits to the wind about his score-- he got a 137.
Was this your dad by any chance?

Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:49 am
by Ginj
BeaverHunter wrote:You haven't been accepted anywhere. It is May. This does not bode well for your cycle. Please update us when and if you do get accepted. Until that time, no numbers "myth" has been debunked.
Additionally, when the likely outcome is finally revealed, you may want to reconsider law school. A 136 is a horrible, horrible score. Even if it isn't a perfect predictor of success, this score could be achieved by random guessing. A 136 means that your reading comprehension and logical reasoning skills are on par with an 11 year old. You are not prepared for law school, no offense.
Ha.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:49 am
by crit_racer
mrwarre85 wrote:geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
True story: because my dad is a bad guy, he took the LSAT with me the first time I took it, simply to mind fuck me. He lucked out and was placed one row behind me and the whole time he kept clearing his throat real loud and making awkward comments to the girls sitting by him at every break. My dad is a 60 year old alcoholic and he didn't give two shits to the wind about his score-- he got a 137.
LOLOLOLOLOL
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:28 am
by ProfitsProphets
whymeohgodno wrote:aliarrow wrote:Just because it's in review for 10 weeks doesn't mean it isn't auto-reject...
What is this?
+1
It's probably reasoning like this which contributed to your amazing LSAT score.
Actually what contributed to my amazing LSAT score was my lack of experience with standardized test. I'm a non-traditional applicant. Plus, I suppose having been unemployed for nearly a year at the time I took the test didn't help. I'm also a father (15 y/o daughter) and live in SF, so financial worries and family responsibilities trumped LSAT focus. I went blank, and I actually guessed a lot of answers. Sucks for me.
But I will retake, fret not.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:31 am
by ProfitsProphets
mrwarre85 wrote:geoduck wrote:You applied to Hastings LEOP, not regular Hastings admissions. Of course you weren't auto dinged.... You applied for their crappy-stats program! This proves nothing even if you get in.
I'm more amazed at that 136 though. You get 120 for writing your name....
True story: because my dad is a bad guy, he took the LSAT with me the first time I took it, simply to mind fuck me. He lucked out and was placed one row behind me and the whole time he kept clearing his throat real loud and making awkward comments to the girls sitting by him at every break. My dad is a 60 year old alcoholic and he didn't give two shits to the wind about his score-- he got a 137.
Sorry to hear that your dad is a loser. My daughter has a much different opinion about her dad who has been working really hard in life to get to this point.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:32 am
by mrwarre85
ProfitsProphets wrote:whymeohgodno wrote:aliarrow wrote:Just because it's in review for 10 weeks doesn't mean it isn't auto-reject...
What is this?
+1
It's probably reasoning like this which contributed to your amazing LSAT score.
Actually what contributed to my amazing LSAT score was my lack of experience with standardized test. I'm a non-traditional applicant. Plus, I suppose having been unemployed for nearly a year at the time I took the test didn't help. I'm also a father (15 y/o daughter) and live in SF, so financial worries and family responsibilities trumped LSAT focus. I went blank, and
I actually guessed a lot of answers. Sucks for me.
But I will retake, fret not.
This is all I heard. Then I laughed.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:36 am
by law4vus
I feel bad for the OP, and this thread is headed to a bad place. I can tell already. lol
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:36 am
by vanwinkle
I think I'll need to watch this thread closely.
Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:37 am
by aliarrow
vanwinkle wrote:I think I'll need to watch this thread closely.
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Re: Debunking the auto-reject theory
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 11:38 am
by ProfitsProphets
I just received my rejection letter, eeehhhhhh, just kidding. I'm think my app is still sitting in a rejection pile, or maybe they lost my app....hmmm