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Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:33 pm
by BrittVA
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Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:35 pm
by glewz
BrittVA wrote:Hello All:

I applied late this cycle but received Waitlist emails from UVA (today) and William and Mary (about three weeks ago). I also received a call today from the University of Richmond acknowledging my acceptance. Waiting on George Mason, Howard, American.

For context, a little about me: UVA undergrad 2009, VA resident, Master's in Public Admin 2010. have been working in the influential, lobbying subsidiary of a well known law firm headquartered in Richmond VA, since 2010

LSAT 157, UGPA: <3.0, Grad GPA: 3.5, URM

Given my stats, I created quite a compelling package because I figured I'd be an auto reject at UVA.

Thing is, I have a scholarship by the Commonwealth of Virginia w/ 2.5 years of eligibility remaining to attend a public, state university or college and have my tuition and fees waived. Therefore, I would have to pay for law school at UR. I REALLLY need to get in WM, UVA, or GMU. Any advice on making an even more compelling case for my acceptance at these schools, particularly UVA and WM? I absolutely love Charlottesville and UVA and WM is close to my home among other things. I will certainly submit LOCIs to both, but thoughts on visiting to drop off these letters in hopes of catching admissions personnel?
If any of those schools accept the June LSAT, I'd retake it then.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:59 pm
by BrittVA
Normally, I think that would be good advice. Problem is I took the LSAT 3 times, Oct. Dec. Feb. scoring one point higher each time. Admittedly, I didn't study much the first time, not much more the 2nd, same with the 3rd. I was nervous in Oct, graduated 10 min. after I got out of my Dec. test and just figured I was too distracted, and got busy with the Virginia legislative session in Jan. I didn't write an addendum for the LSAT because I wrote one for UGPA. So there's nothing I can do about that, yes I know I shot myself in the foot thrice.

Mainly, I want to know if I should make visits to the schools and try to swing a meeting with admissions folks. Also, anyone know if the waitlist letter at UVA is a generic sent to all, mine sounded a bit different, almost more personal, than I imagined it would.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:03 pm
by dukey
BrittVA wrote:Normally, I think that would be good advice. Problem is I took the LSAT 3 times, Oct. Dec. Feb. scoring one point higher each time. Admittedly, I didn't study much the first time, not much more the 2nd, same with the 3rd. I was nervous in Oct, graduated 10 min. after I got out of my Dec. test and just figured I was too distracted, and got busy with the Virginia legislative session in Jan. I didn't write an addendum for the LSAT because I wrote one for UGPA. So there's nothing I can do about that, yes I know I shot myself in the foot thrice.

Mainly, I want to know if I should make visits to the schools and try to swing a meeting with admissions folks. Also, anyone know if the waitlist letter at UVA is a generic sent to all, mine sounded a bit different, almost more personal, than I imagined it would.
I remember they said specifically on their website that they don't offer admissions interviews.

And honestly...if you can pull off a 6+ point improvement after a lot of studying, you are very likely to get admitted - regardless of having taken it 3 times already.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:08 pm
by BrittVA
LSAC limits 3 tests in a 2 year span.. :(

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:10 pm
by dukey
BrittVA wrote:LSAC limits 3 tests in a 2 year span.. :(
There are ways to circumvent this limitation - search this forum...along the lines of petitioning/asking a law school to sponsor you or something.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:19 pm
by bluecanary622
Hey! My friend talked to w&m about this and I overheard some things at ASW and here are my suggestions...
1. Write a really great LOCI e-mail and "why w&m/uva" essay as an attachment.
2. Go and take a tour and talk to people. See if you can talk to someone while you're there--UVA has said that if someones available sometimes they'll let you meet.
3. Retake the LSAT in June as the others on here said.
4. Get one or two really solid extra recommendations and send them in.
5. ASK the admissions ppl at each school what else you can do. Its good to take initiative on some things but its also a good question to ask just to show you'll do what it takes.

Make sure you don't contact them too much though! Good luck I hope you get in!

Also quick question... when did you submit/get updated from UVA? I'm still waiting on a decision and I'm so nervous! I didn't get anything today and it looks like a bunch of WLs went out. I'm hoping that doesn't mean a ding!

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:27 pm
by BrittVA
Thanks for the great advice! I'll call Dean Trujillo at UVA or just take a visit next week and see if I can get an audience.

Blue: I received my email this evening, about 2 hours ago. Kinda funny story: I got a call from UVA (434 area code) this morning and got my hopes up thinking it was my acceptance call. Dean Trujillo called b/c 2 days ago I visited the admitted students page where one can pay their seat deposit, I didn't actually put in payment information but filled out my LSAC number to see if the site would advance, it did. I exited there, but apparently it registered on their system as if I tried to make a payment. So I clarified that with him and asked a couple of questions while I had him on the phone, specifically if I should continue to expect to hear by April 15th, to which he replied yes. And then I find out my fate, sort of, this evening. They also updated my status on the online checker immediately.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:29 pm
by BrittVA
Found the thread on petitioning LSAC for a 4th exam, I'm going to pursue this. Thanks for the advice guys!

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:30 pm
by BrittVA
Blue: Sorry I didn't answer all of your question, I submitted on the deadline.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:35 pm
by bluecanary622
Thanks so much for the info!! I'm so hoping to at least. Get WL'd... but with all the WLs today I'm worried its a rejection :(

Good luck though getting in!! UVA is amazing.

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:40 pm
by glewz
BrittVA wrote:Thanks for the great advice! I'll call Dean Trujillo at UVA or just take a visit next week and see if I can get an audience.

Blue: I received my email this evening, about 2 hours ago. Kinda funny story: I got a call from UVA (434 area code) this morning and got my hopes up thinking it was my acceptance call. Dean Trujillo called b/c 2 days ago I visited the admitted students page where one can pay their seat deposit, I didn't actually put in payment information but filled out my LSAC number to see if the site would advance, it did. I exited there, but apparently it registered on their system as if I tried to make a payment. So I clarified that with him and asked a couple of questions while I had him on the phone, specifically if I should continue to expect to hear by April 15th, to which he replied yes. And then I find out my fate, sort of, this evening. They also updated my status on the online checker immediately.
Goodness...that's not a funny story at all. That's terrible!

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:45 pm
by BrittVA
I try to stay positive. But talk about a buzz kill!

Re: Waitlisted at UVA, WM need advice!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:16 pm
by BrittVA
Would you suggest requesting a petition to LSAC from a school I am less interested in attending and haven't yet heard from?