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Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:22 am
by Snape
After seeing so many comments about "layman's prestige"--though it is completely pointless--thought it would be funny to rank the top ten law schools in regards to "Layman's Prestige"
1. Harvard
2. Princeton
3. Georgetown
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Northwestern
7. Columbia
8. New York University
9. Michigan
10. Notre Dame
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:43 am
by Non-Chalant1
Been done before, but Cornell would have higher lay prestige.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:44 am
by St.Remy
Snape wrote:After seeing so many comments about "layman's prestige"--though it is completely pointless
So you realize this, and yet you do it anyway....
Regardless of how special you may be, this is not the correct part of the forum to start a thread like this.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:45 am
by RPK34
Non-Chalant1 wrote:Been done before, but Cornell would have higher lay prestige.

Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:52 am
by Law Sauce
Snape wrote:After seeing so many comments about "layman's prestige"--though it is completely pointless--thought it would be funny to rank the top ten law schools in regards to "Layman's Prestige"
1. Harvard
2. Princeton
3. Georgetown
4. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Northwestern
7. Columbia
8. New York University
9. Michigan
10. Notre Dame
Princeton doesnt have a law school (though I get the joke)
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Stanford
4. Cornell
5. Georgetown
6. NYU/Columbia
8. Penn
9. Chicago
10. UCLA
edit: I am from the east coast.
also, this is the wrong place for this thread
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:54 am
by nonprofit-prophet
Depends which state you are in. Notre Dame means less in certain states. If you are in Texas, UT law is practically worshipped.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:56 am
by Ginj
Law Sauce wrote:
Princeton doesnt have a law school
also, this is the wrong place for this thread
No one argues with Professor Snape.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:43 pm
by CanadianWolf
It would be interesting to get some West Coast perspectives. Also, I think that many regard their state flagship university's law school as prestigious.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:02 pm
by Ratchet Jackson
top ten from a westcoast perspective: HLS/YLS, Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Cornell, Georgetown, Northwestern, Chicago, Berkeley/UCLA/USC.
UVA gets very little love on the left coast. Penn isn't mentioned much either from what I have heard. And some of my friends I have talked to, after saying I applied to Michigan thought it was a "super safety" and "just a party school". Had no idea it was t10. Their UG reputation definitely affected that.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:05 pm
by artichoke
This thread is giving me major déjà vu.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:08 pm
by paulinaporizkova
haha this is awesome. this is like my parents wondering why i want to hear back from michigan so bad when i already got into gtown and cornell (well, i guess just gtown)
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:35 pm
by vertex
This thread is dumb.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:40 pm
by nsideirish
From a non-academic Chicago family, it looks something like this
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Stanford
4. Notre Dame
5. Northwestern
6. Georgetown
7. Cornell
8. UChicago (they get very little recognition by the general public, even in Chicago)
9. UIllinois
10. John Marshall/DePaul/Loyola
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:42 pm
by ResolutePear
Fuck no. Everybody knows Princeton is the only law school with prestige. Don't listen to any of these haters OP, I believe in you!
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:44 pm
by Ratchet Jackson
nsideirish wrote:From a non-academic Chicago family, it looks something like this
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Stanford
4. Notre Dame
5. Northwestern
6. Georgetown
7. Cornell
8. UChicago (they get very little recognition by the general public, even in Chicago)
9. UIllinois
10. John Marshall/DePaul/Loyola
Very interesting. I know this thread may sound dumb to a lot of people, but what else are we supposed to do up here while admissions is on vacation haha
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:46 pm
by furrywalls
i'm from the south so Duke would have to be on there
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:50 pm
by jackattack17
furrywalls wrote:i'm from the south so Duke would have to be on there
i'm from the south, and dook isn't really considered a "southern" school. it's UG is for northerners who couldn't get into ivy, and it's law grads for the most part don't stay in nc or even the south.
with that disclaimer, it is a good school, as much as it pains me to say it
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:57 pm
by Non-Chalant1
RJ127 wrote:top ten from a westcoast perspective: HLS/YLS, Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Cornell, Georgetown, Northwestern, Chicago, Berkeley/UCLA/USC.
UVA gets very little love on the left coast. Penn isn't mentioned much either from what I have heard. And some of my friends I have talked to, after saying I applied to Michigan thought it was a "super safety" and "just a party school". Had no idea it was t10. Their UG reputation definitely affected that.
So your friends know nothing about Michigan's undergrad then? No one I know would call Michigan a party school.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:01 pm
by Ratchet Jackson
Non-Chalant1 wrote:RJ127 wrote:top ten from a westcoast perspective: HLS/YLS, Stanford, Columbia, NYU, Cornell, Georgetown, Northwestern, Chicago, Berkeley/UCLA/USC.
UVA gets very little love on the left coast. Penn isn't mentioned much either from what I have heard. And some of my friends I have talked to, after saying I applied to Michigan thought it was a "super safety" and "just a party school". Had no idea it was t10. Their UG reputation definitely affected that.
So your friends know nothing about Michigan's undergrad then? No one I know would call Michigan a party school.
Yeah, they probably know nothing, but in all honesty many huge division 1 programs are subconsciously linked to a "party school" classification. Especially schools with storied football programs because of the alcoholic traditions that come along during the season.
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:03 pm
by Bildungsroman
Not this thread again...
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:07 pm
by anonymiB
Bildungsroman wrote:Not this thread again...
Nice hat
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:07 pm
by Grizz
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:11 pm
by calilaw
Lay prestige is definitely regional.
Ranking Law Schools In California (from my experiences):
Vanderbilt sounds familiar, but most likely because of the Vanderbilt family.
Nobody knows about WUSTL.
UPenn is always confused with Penn State.
Nobody would think of UVA.
If you mention UVA or Michigan, people will just think they're "state schools" which surely rank below California's UC's.
Cornell is one of those schools many have heard of, but few know anything about (including that it's an Ivy)
Chicago doesn't have much lay prestige. Same with Northwestern. Mostly off the radar here.
Berkeley is highly respected and if asked, most Californians would rank it right behind Harvard/Stanford/Yale (probably in that order).
It's hard to discuss law schools with friends/family who know nothing about law schools. I got the Michigan viewbook, and a friend laughed and made a comment along the lines of "why would you want to go to a public university in Detroit for 3 years.. there's no way you'll apply, right?"
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:15 pm
by Grizz
Re: Layman's Prestige
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:21 pm
by Grizz
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