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Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:51 pm
by pantherfan
Interested in Criminal Law, PA resident, and looking to probably stay somewhere in the state. Thanks!

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:53 pm
by gdane
Penn State. Its a school on the rise. Plus, you can be a Nittany Lion!

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:57 pm
by pantherfan
Is the consensus Duquesne, even with its scholarship, is not worth it?

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:04 pm
by gdane
I think so. If you're a PA resident, then you should get In state tuition for Penn state. Add 20k/yr in the mix and it seems like they're paying you to attend.

I would take it. Penn State is not a bad school at all.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:04 pm
by gdane
I think so. If you're a PA resident, then you should get In state tuition for Penn state. Add 20k/yr in the mix and it seems like they're paying you to attend.

I would take it. Penn State is not a bad school at all.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:11 pm
by pantherfan
There is no in/out of state distinction for tuition purposes for Penn State fyi

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:19 pm
by reverendt
pantherfan wrote:Is the consensus Duquesne, even with its scholarship, is not worth it?
No...here in Pittsburgh, Duquesne grads do pretty well (relatively speaking....right now everybody's scared at most schools...)
Outside of Pittsburgh Duquesne doesn't carry much weight.

But if you KNOW you wanna work in Pittsburgh, I'd say go to school for free!
Likewise...if you KNOW you want Philly, maybe consider Drexel.

If you want options, go to Pitt or Penn State. Pitt will obviously place better in Pittsburgh, Penn state will probably put you into Harrisburg better. For Philly it's probably a toss up. See which school you like better....and where you'd rather spend 3 years.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:24 pm
by pantherfan
I don't yet know where I want to live, but I don't want to close doors. Pittsburgh is cool, but hey who knows what the future will bring. The question is then: is an extra 40k worth a bit more degree mobility/portability, or do I risk the prestige hit for paying no tuition. I can't decide :?

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:37 pm
by adameus
I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of duquesne.

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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:40 pm
by darknightbegins
adameus wrote:I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of duquesne.
+1.

Also this is the wrong forum for this, you should put this in the "Choosing a Law School" forum. The answer though is Penn State.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:41 pm
by adameus
darknightbegins wrote:
adameus wrote:I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of duquesne.
+1.

Also this is the wrong forum for this, you should put this in the "Choosing a Law School" forum. The answer though is Penn State.
Penn State is Top 10 no?

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:45 pm
by DoktorZaius
adameus wrote:
darknightbegins wrote:
adameus wrote:I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of duquesne.
+1.

Also this is the wrong forum for this, you should put this in the "Choosing a Law School" forum. The answer though is Penn State.
Penn State is Top 10 no?
U of Penn is t10, Penn State is mid 60's or so.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:49 pm
by pantherfan
A lot of people think Penn State is on the rise and may be a top 50 school in a few years, but who the heck knows. And it doesn't really matter at that rank anyway.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:10 pm
by adameus
DoktorZaius wrote:
adameus wrote:
darknightbegins wrote:
adameus wrote:I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of duquesne.
+1.

Also this is the wrong forum for this, you should put this in the "Choosing a Law School" forum. The answer though is Penn State.
Penn State is Top 10 no?
U of Penn is t10, Penn State is mid 60's or so.
isn't U of Penn the same as Penn State?

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:09 pm
by gdane
Negative. The difference in names should be a clear indicator that they are two completely different schools. University of Pennsylvannia is the Ivy league top school in Pennsylvannia and one of the top schools in the country.

Penn State is a state university. A great school, but not U Penn.

Also, I didnt know there was no distinction between in state and out of state. I still think you should take the Penn State offer. I find it to be the strongest of all the schools you listed. Plus, the Penn State alumni network is huge. Think about that. A schools network is much more important than a stupid ranking by a magazine.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:13 pm
by kevin261186
adameus wrote:I can honestly say this is the first time I've ever heard of duquesne.
It's where the guy in the most recent Grisham Novel did his undergrad before hitting up Yale and BIGLAW.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:24 pm
by reverendt
gdane5 wrote:
Also, I didnt know there was no distinction between in state and out of state. I still think you should take the Penn State offer. I find it to be the strongest of all the schools you listed. Plus, the Penn State alumni network is huge. Think about that. A schools network is much more important than a stupid ranking by a magazine.
I don't think the Penn State LAW alumni network is huge. Out of the T2 schools OP is considering I'd think Pitt Law has a much larger presence. Penn state law is too new.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:09 pm
by pantherfan
PSU still has a lot of alumni because it has all of the Dickinson School of Law alums, it is now called the Penn State Dickinson School of Law. It seems, according to the comments, that Penn State is a pretty decisive choice among those who left comments/voted. I don't know still what to do; Pitt has its market and a strong alumni presence in D.C., but the upward trajectory of Penn State is certainly promising. Maybe double deposit, and figure out in a month or so?

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:01 pm
by pantherfan
Anyone else out there with an opinion?

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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:27 pm
by reverendt
pantherfan wrote:PSU still has a lot of alumni because it has all of the Dickinson School of Law alums, it is now called the Penn State Dickinson School of Law. It seems, according to the comments, that Penn State is a pretty decisive choice among those who left comments/voted. I don't know still what to do; Pitt has its market and a strong alumni presence in D.C., but the upward trajectory of Penn State is certainly promising. Maybe double deposit, and figure out in a month or so?
Always bear in mind that the rankings are for the consumer (prospective students). They're not intended to provide direct, or even indirect, guidance for employers. The employers already have an assessment of each school in their head, and that doesn't change because of a trend in the ranking system.
That said, for someone going to Penn State I think the Dickinson campus is the wise choice.

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:27 pm
by dancer330
I actually would say Pitt is your best option. Considering the times we're in right now, I think it's important to go to the best school you get into if the cost isn't off the wall. 12k a year, to me, is very reasonable for law school tuition—especially at a school like Pitt.

I'm sure you will be successful wherever you go, though. Good luck!

Re: Suggestions welcomed

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:40 pm
by darknightbegins
Yeah but times may not be like "this" when the OP gets out of law school in 2013. A law degree is forever, economic ups and downs are not.