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Cooley PEP program
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 pm
by bbmela
So has anyone attended Cooley's PEP program? I'm going to be doing it in 3 weeks. I was curious as to what to expect.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:20 pm
by LSATfromNC
bbmela wrote:So has anyone attended Cooley's PEP program? I'm going to be doing it in 3 weeks. I was curious as to what to expect.
Flame.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:22 pm
by bbmela
Actually, I'm very serious, thank you. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm not quite sure how to prove that to you, but whatever.
So if anybody *else* out there has an answer, it'd be appreciated,
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:15 pm
by hjr999
Don't worry, this forum is full of over-achievers, anyway. They cry about 160 scores and 3.5 GPA's, clueless about the real world of the legal profession, dump their entire hopes of any career upon the piece of paper they'll later learn to wipe their ass with, their to-be-diploma, regimenting paper upon paper for some two-bit cocksucker on Wall Street who doesn't give a fuck about them.
Congrats kid. Go to the program if and only it's your only option. My advice? Buy a book or audiobook on how to sell yourself, how to negotiate, and a magazine about fashion/hygiene. Learn to shake hands firmly, and you'll be climbing the ranks in no time.
Good luck.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:45 pm
by Zojirushi
hjr999 wrote:Buy a book or audiobook on how to sell yourself, how to negotiate, and a magazine about fashion/hygiene. Learn to shake hands firmly, and you'll be climbing the ranks in no time.
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lol
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:54 pm
by Kiersten1985
Zojirushi wrote:hjr999 wrote:Buy a book or audiobook on how to sell yourself, how to negotiate, and a magazine about fashion/hygiene. Learn to shake hands firmly, and you'll be climbing the ranks in no time.
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lol
+1 lol
I also like the assumption that no one on here has any clue what the real legal profession is like haha
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:03 pm
by billyez
What's certainly not an assumption is that a number of people here are fonder of pissing on someone's dream or generally ridiculing them rather than helping them out when they ask a question.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:13 pm
by LSATfromNC
Generally when someones first post is about Cooley it's a flame, no disrespect meant. Sorry. I know nothing about Cooley's pep program.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:52 pm
by ChrisC
Out of curiosity, what is this program?
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:09 pm
by kimber1028
I was curious, too.
Grantee: Thomas Cooley Law School
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Project Title: Professional Exploration Program: Increasing the Enrollment and Success of Students Who are Underrepresented in Law School
Amount Funded: $277,000
Category: Direct services to students and families; Education research
Award Year: FY 2007
Through TG funding, the grantee expanded its pilot program, called the Professional Exploration Program (PEP). A law school qualification program, PEP is based on skills instruction, performance on a substantive law test, and student self-evaluation of their "fitness" to study the law. Twelve hours of skills training, nine hours of substantive law instruction, and academic and career testing are the major components of the program. Participants are evaluated by a PEP governing committee and accepted or not accepted into the law school based on their performance at PEP. Students considered for PEP are those who applied to the Law School and do not meet the criteria for regular or alternative admission. TG funding accelerated the law school's ability to give access to more underrepresented students.
OP: Does this mean you'd likely pay sticker at Cooley if you got in? If so, be very, very careful. I understand if you want to go to law school no matter what, but it would probably behoove you to retake the LSAT and apply to new schools next year. I'm pretty certain that Cooley has a horrible forced attrition rate, too, which should factor into your decision. Good luck!
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:34 am
by llawguru
PEP program is for those who can't score above 143 on the LSAT. Thus Cooley rejected them and are making them take this program to be considered for admission.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:52 am
by llawguru
This guy got in with a 139 on his LSAT
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Greg212NJ/jd
Thank goodness for the PEP program.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:58 am
by llawguru
The end result.
Cooley grad after court.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:15 am
by cubswin
That's why you don't major in "Legal Studies." If it turns out you can't score higher than 139 on the LSAT, you have to go to Cooley.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:21 am
by flcath
LSATfromNC wrote:bbmela wrote:So has anyone attended Cooley's PEP program? I'm going to be doing it in 3 weeks. I was curious as to what to expect.
Flame.
Either way, there's virtually no chance that this ends with a constructive thread.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:06 pm
by darknightbegins
llawguru wrote:PEP program is for those who can't score above 143 on the LSAT. Thus Cooley rejected them and are making them take this program to be considered for admission.
Sweet Christ...
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:10 pm
by ndirish2010
Some people on this forum need to grow up. Worry about schools you're actually applying to or interested in, don't waste your time putting down schools just because everyone else is doing it.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:15 pm
by darknightbegins
Oli wrote:darknightbegins wrote:llawguru wrote:PEP program is for those who can't score above 143 on the LSAT. Thus Cooley rejected them and are making them take this program to be considered for admission.
Sweet Christ...
Bumping this thread 1 month later is an ultimate fail
Sorry man just couldn't believe it.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:17 pm
by lawschoolstudent85
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Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:25 pm
by BruceBarr
The only thing thats more annoying than Cooley jokes?
People who boost their ego hating on Cooley.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:32 pm
by SanBun
BruceBarr wrote:The only thing thats more annoying than Cooley jokes?
People who boost their ego hating on Cooley.
+1
poor poor suckers
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:51 pm
by ATOIsp07
TLS is pretty sad for the fact that many users on here need to temper their insecurities by making fun of other users who attend lower "ranked" schools. It is a very poor way of living if the only way you can make yourself feel better is by ridiculing those who didn't have a high enough GPA or LSAT score or didn't go to school at HYS.
I understand this is top law school forum but, still, have some consideration and class. Not everyone could attend the best schools. Not everyone had mommy and daddy bankroll them for tutors and LSAT classes. Not everyone came from a family of doctors and lawyers. Everyone needs to cool off with the snobbery. 5 or 10 years from now, nobody is going to care what you got on the LSAT or where you attended law school. It'll only matter if whether or not you pass the BAR and are a certified lawyer. I highly doubt that 4 years from now, the same people ridiculing OP are going to even remember TLS, let alone trolling on it. Grow up!
Law school is temporary. Class is permanent.
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:53 pm
by SanBun
ATOIsp07 wrote:
Law school is temporary. Class is permanent.
big fat
+1
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:12 pm
by Richie Tenenbaum
Re: Cooley PEP program
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:19 pm
by ATOIsp07
whataboutbahb wrote:I agree elitism=lame. But unrealistic optimism is just as bad. Like it or not, prestige matters in the legal world.
Not to the extent of, "you can't land big law unless you go to HYS and are in the top 10%" or "you have a 3.5/165? You're going to have to settle for a T30". Yes, where you go to school can matter but I feel that people on this board, especially the wet-behind-the-ears 0Ls, take it too far in judging/ridiculing people's lives. Who are they to say who can achieve what?
I'm also fairly certain that, after your first job, a law school's name really doesn't matter.
