SMU 2011 Forum

jwmalone87 · Post by **jwmalone87** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:55 pm

nfggcaar wrote:Got a letter about Hatton Sumner today.

Do tell!! Interviews coming up...?

HBK · Post by **HBK** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:04 pm

ebo wrote:How popular is the JD/MBA program? Do many students choose to do it after 1L?

I know a few people who choose it. My question is why does anyone want to do it?

Are you planning on opening your own practice when you get out of school? I haven't met a single attorney who has told me that it will give you any real advantage as far as working for a firm.

I've met M&A attorneys for Bryan Cave, I met a securities attorney at a biglaw firm whose Bachelors was in philosophy. Every person I've met has basically said there's really no value added in an MBA.

Does anyone on this board have a good rationale for getting one? Does it make it easier to break into biglaw?

simontemplar · Post by **simontemplar** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:26 pm

HBK wrote:
ebo wrote:How popular is the JD/MBA program? Do many students choose to do it after 1L?
I know a few people who choose it. My question is why does anyone want to do it?

Are you planning on opening your own practice when you get out of school? I haven't met a single attorney who has told me that it will give you any real advantage as far as working for a firm.

I've met M&A attorneys for Bryan Cave, I met a securities attorney at a biglaw firm whose Bachelors was in philosophy. Every person I've met has basically said there's really no value added in an MBA.

Does anyone on this board have a good rationale for getting one? Does it make it easier to break into biglaw?

I have heard a variety of positions on the JD/MBA combo. I think that there are distinct advantages, but only in niche markets. Several big law firms offer an additional $20,000 signing bonus for 1st year associates with an MBA... and in theory, it would give you a strategic advantage over other attorneys vying for a general counsel position. The real value? Networking.

HBK · Post by **HBK** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:32 pm

simontemplar wrote: I have heard a variety of positions on the JD/MBA combo. I think that there are distinct advantages, but only in niche markets. Several big law firms offer an additional $20,000 signing bonus for 1st year associates with an MBA... and in theory, it would give you a strategic advantage over other attorneys vying for a general counsel position. The real value? Networking.

Is networking worth an extra year of school and lost wages? I just don't see the value. Especially because you'll be networking with attorneys in law school and attorneys and clients (eventually) in practice.

nfggcaar · Post by **nfggcaar** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:10 pm

Interviews Mar. 25-26!

txsunshine · Post by **txsunshine** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:41 pm

Eeeek. Complete date changed from 1/11 to 3/2 today

bartleby · Post by **bartleby** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:11 am

Same. Not sure what this means.

sjlawand88 · Post by **sjlawand88** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:19 am

txsunshine wrote:Eeeek. Complete date changed from 1/11 to 3/2 today

bartleby wrote:Same. Not sure what this means.

My part-time application date is still 1/18. Do you mind me asking for your numbers?

ebo · Post by **ebo** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:23 am

bartleby wrote:Same. Not sure what this means.

For all of the admitted candidates so far, the status changed to the current date, and then again to "admitted" a day or so later. I believe those that were held for further review or rejected had their statuses changed directly to that. Take it for what's it worth...

bartleby · Post by **bartleby** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:38 am

Yep, I'm aware of how it's been this cycle but don't want to get my hopes up

I was Held earlier even though I didn't apply EA.

3.3 / 165

deliriousxix · Post by **deliriousxix** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:46 am

bartleby wrote:Yep, I'm aware of how it's been this cycle but don't want to get my hopes up

I was Held earlier even though I didn't apply EA.

3.3 / 165

I'm sure you're accepted! status date update= accepted

I'm surprised you were even held.

ebo · Post by **ebo** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:48 am

bartleby wrote:Yep, I'm aware of how it's been this cycle but don't want to get my hopes up

I was Held earlier even though I didn't apply EA.

3.3 / 165

Hmm...164 was the "magic" LSAT number last time around, I've got similar numbers but applied EA. I can't remember the exact stats from the LSAC website, but last year something like 160 people applied with a 165-169 LSAT and 150 of those were admitted. Good luck!

bartleby · Post by **bartleby** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:05 pm

ahhhhh, let's hope so!

kalvano · Post by **kalvano** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:55 pm

simontemplar wrote:Several big law firms offer an additional $20,000 signing bonus for 1st year associates with an MBA... and in theory, it would give you a strategic advantage over other attorneys vying for a general counsel position. The real value? Networking.

If you have Biglaw grades, then you just paid for an extra year of school to get a $20K bonus when you could have been out of law school making $160K a year.

ebo wrote:Hmm...164 was the "magic" LSAT number last time around, I've got similar numbers but applied EA. I can't remember the exact stats from the LSAC website, but last year something like 160 people applied with a 165-169 LSAT and 150 of those were admitted. Good luck!

It seems like they are trying to raise medians this year.

JRDallas11 · Post by **JRDallas11** » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:19 pm

I have it on good authority some acceptances are going out tomorrow and Monday.

Good luck!

txsunshine · Post by **txsunshine** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:05 am

sjlawand88 wrote:
txsunshine wrote:Eeeek. Complete date changed from 1/11 to 3/2 today

bartleby wrote:Same. Not sure what this means.
My part-time application date is still 1/18. Do you mind me asking for your numbers?

165/3.2

12thman2011 · Post by **12thman2011** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:50 pm

This is a question for the SMU students on here.

How much freedom do you have to choose electives and how much variety is there in your 2L and 3L years? I went to Texas earlier and there seemed to be a ton of elective options to take with clinics and stuff. Does SMU have a comparable variety?

deliriousxix · Post by **deliriousxix** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:19 pm

Did any PTers have their status updated to today's date??? Because mine just did!

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:26 pm

deliriousxix wrote:Did any PTers have their status updated to today's date??? Because mine just did!

Mine also updated! I'm excited, you think a decision has been rendered? At this point I'm just dying to know my options. In or Out, tell me!

deliriousxix · Post by **deliriousxix** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:33 pm

Justathought wrote:
deliriousxix wrote:Did any PTers have their status updated to today's date??? Because mine just did!

Mine also updated! I'm excited, you think a decision has been rendered? At this point I'm just dying to know my options. In or Out, tell me!

ah I hope so. I've been waiting so long it feels like lol... it's my top choice though, so let's hope we're in!

SrLaw · Post by **SrLaw** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:57 pm

Unfortunately, it looks like I am going to have to withdrawal. That puts $76K of scholarship money and an acceptance back on the market.

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:40 pm

Well, its official, I'll be compulsively checking the mail next week.

Burgstaller04 · Post by **Burgstaller04** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:05 pm

Has anyone else gotten a Sumner's invite?

sjlawand88 · Post by **sjlawand88** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:06 pm

I'm PT and my status has not yet changed. From what status did it change? What is your new status?

Justathought · Post by **Justathought** » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:16 pm

sjlawand88 wrote:I'm PT and my status has not yet changed. From what status did it change? What is your new status?

I believe it was "application complete" on 1/26, and now its "application completed" on 3/4. I could swear they added a "D!" But I might be crazy.

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