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Does anyone know what day first-round offers went out for the federal programs branch? Trying to get an idea as to when alternates may hear something… but I guess I sorta doubt anyone would decline.
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has anyone heard from TAX CIV or TAX CRIM? Either a finalist or offer?
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So are they just… not giving any updates this year? Because that’s incredibly frustrating after a months long application process.
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Yeah, this is the bitter truth.
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Thank you for the update. I didn't get the finalist nod for DC, but really appreciate you sharing the timeline. Better to know.rashplawp wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:03 pmI was a finalist for the DC and AZ offices. I am turning down both offers, so I am hoping someone here will hear from them soon!Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:16 amI'm in the exact same boat as you. I haven't heard of any USAO movement.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:52 amMovement from any USAOs?
I had multiple interviews with various ones but still shows “selected for interviews” as to all. Does that mean they either haven’t moved or, if they did, I wasn’t selected as a finalist?
If someone out there has gotten a "finalist" designation for a USAO office, can you let us know?
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I feel yaAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:16 pmSo are they just… not giving any updates this year? Because that’s incredibly frustrating after a months long application process.
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Anyone see any ATR movement?
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Tax Civ - finalist posted last Wednesday, offer the next day. Not sure about Tax CrimAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:32 pmhas anyone heard from TAX CIV or TAX CRIM? Either a finalist or offer?
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Deana Update
Hi, folks:
I've received a number of inquiries about online status updates. Now that the Thanksgiving holiday has passed, I'm in the process of updating online, tracking responses, and so forth. I issued a data call to hiring components this morning and am awaiting responses.
I will post more specific updates as they become available and after I send email notices to candidates who are no longer under consideration. For now, it may be helpful for you to know the following:
1. All hiring offices have identified finalists and all those identified have been updated on Avue. Remember that "finalist" includes alternates. Identification as a finalist does not guarantee an offer.
2. That doesn't mean that a component cannot reconsider and identify more.
3. The timing of offers is a matter of component discretion (following reference checks). Please remember that these attorneys often have trial dockets to manage in addition to participating on a hiring team.
OARM checks for component status updates daily. We depend on the component managers to timely enter status changes (e.g., offer issued, offer responses). Sometimes it works better than others.
We will do our very best to keep you informed.
Best of luck to all.
Hi, folks:
I've received a number of inquiries about online status updates. Now that the Thanksgiving holiday has passed, I'm in the process of updating online, tracking responses, and so forth. I issued a data call to hiring components this morning and am awaiting responses.
I will post more specific updates as they become available and after I send email notices to candidates who are no longer under consideration. For now, it may be helpful for you to know the following:
1. All hiring offices have identified finalists and all those identified have been updated on Avue. Remember that "finalist" includes alternates. Identification as a finalist does not guarantee an offer.
2. That doesn't mean that a component cannot reconsider and identify more.
3. The timing of offers is a matter of component discretion (following reference checks). Please remember that these attorneys often have trial dockets to manage in addition to participating on a hiring team.
OARM checks for component status updates daily. We depend on the component managers to timely enter status changes (e.g., offer issued, offer responses). Sometimes it works better than others.
We will do our very best to keep you informed.
Best of luck to all.
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I was just designated as a finalist for USAO S.D. Cal today (11/29). References were checked two weeks ago. Anyone else in the same boat or received an offer from S.D. Cal?
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Got rejected today. "As of today, the USTP has met its HP hiring goals and will neither identify further finalists nor issue any more offers of employment."Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:43 pmSomeone posted on reddit this morning that they are a finalist for UST.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:55 pmI'm the original poster, just updating that I also still haven't heard about finalist status for UST (status is still "selected for interview"), but 2 of my references were checked around Nov. 10.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:25 pmHaven't heard back, no references checked, and no finalist status.
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Do you know when exactly you were designated as a finalist? Was it after Deana's message earlier today? I am still on "selected as a finalist," and so after reading her message today ("All hiring offices have identified finalists and all those identified have been updated on Avu..."), I assumed that meant I had no chance. But if you were designated as a finalist AFTER she posted that, maybe there's hope for the rest of us stuck on "selected for interview"??Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:04 pmI was just designated as a finalist for USAO S.D. Cal today (11/29). References were checked two weeks ago. Anyone else in the same boat or received an offer from S.D. Cal?
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Has anyone heard about additional movement in the civil division? I’m a finalist (clearly an alternate at this point) for a branch in the civil division, and I’m not sure how long to hold out hope. It seems like at this point all first round offers have gone out, and folks should know whether they’re trying to decide between two offers. If a first-round offer candidate hasn’t declined by now should I give up?
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No:/ I'm also a "finalist" for the Torts branch. Hate riding the alternate waive. Wish they would confirm first round offers. But no news is good news I guess...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:11 pmHas anyone heard about additional movement in the civil division? I’m a finalist (clearly an alternate at this point) for a branch in the civil division, and I’m not sure how long to hold out hope. It seems like at this point all first round offers have gone out, and folks should know whether they’re trying to decide between two offers. If a first-round offer candidate hasn’t declined by now should I give up?
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I feel you. It looks like last year, all of CIV, civil rights, ENRD, antitrust, and some others all finalized hiring within two days of each other. So if that’s any indication, it looks like maybe there’s some jostling that happens once folks who may be holding multiple offers make a decision. The waiting is really demoralizing though after the initial excitement of being designated a “finalist.” I sorta wish they just straight up told alternates they were alternates still under consideration rather than lumping alternates and folks who are actually getting first round offers into one category of “finalist.”Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:37 pmNo:/ I'm also a "finalist" for the Torts branch. Hate riding the alternate waive. Wish they would confirm first round offers. But no news is good news I guess...Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:11 pmHas anyone heard about additional movement in the civil division? I’m a finalist (clearly an alternate at this point) for a branch in the civil division, and I’m not sure how long to hold out hope. It seems like at this point all first round offers have gone out, and folks should know whether they’re trying to decide between two offers. If a first-round offer candidate hasn’t declined by now should I give up?
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Got rejection letter from CIV today (on avue).
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I’m sorry. This process is brutal. Would you mind sharing which branch? It looks like Deana may not necessarily be posting branch by branch updates because I see anything about a CIV branch completing hiring. Of course, if you’d rather not say that’s completely fair. You’re clearly a strong candidate if you got this far, and I’m sure you’ll find something else fantastic!
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Any update? I haven't heard anything.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:47 amI was designated as a finalist for CIV-TORTS last week, but I haven’t heard anything about offers yet.
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Yeah, when people say, "you're clearly a strong candidate, I'm sure you'll find something great," I never find that helpful. Especially after a rejection, when I'm most keenly aware of the fact that I wasn't good enough on whatever measurement mattered.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:18 pmI’m sorry. This process is brutal. Would you mind sharing which branch? It looks like Deana may not necessarily be posting branch by branch updates because I see anything about a CIV branch completing hiring. Of course, if you’d rather not say that’s completely fair. You’re clearly a strong candidate if you got this far, and I’m sure you’ll find something else fantastic!
It also comes across as extra shallow when you do it at the same time as trying to extract information from the rejectee, presumably because you still have a chance for an offer.
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Fair enough, I’m sorry for the offense. I shoulda just left off the question.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:54 pmYeah, when people say, "you're clearly a strong candidate, I'm sure you'll find something great," I never find that helpful. Especially after a rejection, when I'm most keenly aware of the fact that I wasn't good enough on whatever measurement mattered.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:18 pmI’m sorry. This process is brutal. Would you mind sharing which branch? It looks like Deana may not necessarily be posting branch by branch updates because I see anything about a CIV branch completing hiring. Of course, if you’d rather not say that’s completely fair. You’re clearly a strong candidate if you got this far, and I’m sure you’ll find something else fantastic!
It also comes across as extra shallow when you do it at the same time as trying to extract information from the rejectee, presumably because you still have a chance for an offer.
For the record, if you were even interviewed you ARE a strong candidate. Lots of people don’t even get interviewed. I get that rejection sucks, as I’m sure everyone here knows. Getting this far does honestly feel like a hollow victory when what you really need and want is a job - I feel the same way and have gotten many rejections over the past few months, including through this honors program. But that doesn’t mean you weren’t a strong candidate or that you won’t find something else. Best of luck.
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For anyone tracking, I got a rejection notice from OLA. I was not a finalist, so I’m not sure if they just notified non-finalists or if they have finished hiring.
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Has anyone heard from ATR after being designated a finalist?
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I interviewed for CONS. Thanks for the kind words though! No offense taken.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:18 pmI’m sorry. This process is brutal. Would you mind sharing which branch? It looks like Deana may not necessarily be posting branch by branch updates because I see anything about a CIV branch completing hiring. Of course, if you’d rather not say that’s completely fair. You’re clearly a strong candidate if you got this far, and I’m sure you’ll find something else fantastic!
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Did anyone interview or receive an offer from OIP? I applied, but was not selected for an interview. It’s an informal participating component, so they may or may not hire anyone. I was just curious if they do indeed have a position they’re filling. I think they filled a litigating position through USA jobs earlier this year, and I know position there don’t come up very often.
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Imagine getting roasted for saying someone is a strong candidate. You're on a forum my dude, people are gonna ask you questions lolAnonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:43 pmFair enough, I’m sorry for the offense. I shoulda just left off the question.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:54 pmYeah, when people say, "you're clearly a strong candidate, I'm sure you'll find something great," I never find that helpful. Especially after a rejection, when I'm most keenly aware of the fact that I wasn't good enough on whatever measurement mattered.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:18 pmI’m sorry. This process is brutal. Would you mind sharing which branch? It looks like Deana may not necessarily be posting branch by branch updates because I see anything about a CIV branch completing hiring. Of course, if you’d rather not say that’s completely fair. You’re clearly a strong candidate if you got this far, and I’m sure you’ll find something else fantastic!
It also comes across as extra shallow when you do it at the same time as trying to extract information from the rejectee, presumably because you still have a chance for an offer.
For the record, if you were even interviewed you ARE a strong candidate. Lots of people don’t even get interviewed. I get that rejection sucks, as I’m sure everyone here knows. Getting this far does honestly feel like a hollow victory when what you really need and want is a job - I feel the same way and have gotten many rejections over the past few months, including through this honors program. But that doesn’t mean you weren’t a strong candidate or that you won’t find something else. Best of luck.
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