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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:29 pm

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Have all EOIR components issued offers?
I do not believe so. Deanna will post on the community board when a component has met their hiring goals and she has not put anything up for EOIR. Also, based on previous posts, EOIR takes the longest. If you are waiting on OCIJ, Deanna has posted in the past that it is not unusual to receive offers as late as February/March.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:02 pm

CRM (reg) has completed its hiring - just a heads up

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 01, 2021 7:03 pm

Is it safe to assume I’m an alternate if I haven’t heard anything yet? (Non-EOIR component)

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:51 am

Anyone else applying for this new Vermont USAO gig? Any idea on when we can expect to hear from them? I’m wondering how soon I need to be refocusing my job search

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:02 pm

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Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:58 pm
Any calls from Civil Appellate?
Civil Appellate has finished hiring.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:33 pm

Accepted an offer from Tax (Civil) on Wednesday 12/1. Follow up email came on Thursday 12/2 and initial e-QIP registration email came today 12/3.

I was never designated as a finalist for Tax Civ, but was issued an offer. I point this out because although most components follow the standard finalist designation procedure, it is clear from my experience, that some do not.

So, for those of you still holding out for an offer, if you have not yet received a regrets message, do not give up all hope!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by juliebarnard » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:26 pm

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Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:08 pm
Some BIA offers went out today. (571) area code.
Do you know how many offers went out?? Has anyone accepted/declined?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by juliebarnard » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:39 pm

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Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:08 pm
Some BIA offers went out today. (571) area code.
Do you know how many offers went out? Did anyone accept/decline?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:41 pm

Has anyone heard from BIA or OIL with offers?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:26 pm

Does anyone have any updates regarding offers for EOIR?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Sansa » Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:45 pm

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Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:26 pm
Does anyone have any updates regarding offers for EOIR?
Anyone hear from BIA or OIL-DCS?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:00 pm

Given that the initial 2-week acceptance response period for the first round of finalists has passed at this point, I'm assuming that it's safe to assume the remaining Finalists have not been selected. Has anyone heard any news this week?

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Post by Anonymous User » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:01 pm

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:08 pm

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Given that the initial 2-week acceptance response period for the first round of finalists has passed at this point, I'm assuming that it's safe to assume the remaining Finalists have not been selected. Has anyone heard any news this week?
I received an offer on Wednesday of this week and accepted today. Civil division component but rather not say which.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by captain12 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:43 pm

I was a first round for two EOIR components and given until 12/14 to reply, so it's still not too late to hear if you're an alternative I think!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:12 pm

Any updates on clearances/suitability review for anyone? Submitted e-QIP a few weeks back and been radio silence since then.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:16 pm

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Given that the initial 2-week acceptance response period for the first round of finalists has passed at this point, I'm assuming that it's safe to assume the remaining Finalists have not been selected. Has anyone heard any news this week?
I know someone who got an offer last year at the component I’m interested in, and I was told they were given more than two weeks to accept or deny the offer… I’m trying to stay hopeful !!!!!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:46 am

has anyone in crim div received their formal offers or gotten the e-qip notification yet?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:02 pm

I received an OCIJ offer today, so they are still going out!

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:07 am

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has anyone in crim div received their formal offers or gotten the e-qip notification yet?
No, I followed up with HR relatively recently to make sure there was no issue with my initial forms and they said everything was fine. They didn't say when e-qip would come. If I recall correctly from past threads, I think formal offer comes after you are cleared, maybe even after you are assigned to a section? Sorry I am too lazy to check.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:52 pm

I am confused about the pay scale for entering HP attorneys.

I began a job in October and was originally told that I would enter as a G-12 owing to my one year of legal employment.

However I now received an email notifying me that I would in fact enter as a G-11 because, with a September 2022 start date, I will not have completed one year of post graduate employment.

Is this really how it works? I miss a full year of employment by literally two weeks. So anyone whose HP start date falls before their previous employment’s state date, even hypothetically by a day, would not receive credit for (nearly) one year of employment?

So many legal jobs start in late September or October. It seems many will be short changed by this policy (15k per year difference). I guess I just can’t believe they would be this strict and exact about what counts as a year.

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 09, 2022 9:21 am

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Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:52 pm
I am confused about the pay scale for entering HP attorneys.

I began a job in October and was originally told that I would enter as a G-12 owing to my one year of legal employment.

However I now received an email notifying me that I would in fact enter as a G-11 because, with a September 2022 start date, I will not have completed one year of post graduate employment.

Is this really how it works? I miss a full year of employment by literally two weeks. So anyone whose HP start date falls before their previous employment’s state date, even hypothetically by a day, would not receive credit for (nearly) one year of employment?

So many legal jobs start in late September or October. It seems many will be short changed by this policy (15k per year difference). I guess I just can’t believe they would be this strict and exact about what counts as a year.
That really is unfortunate timing. I feel for you. It seems that this is DOJ’s actual policy. I’m in a clerkship, and I asked HR if I had to stay the full year to receive the GS bump and they told me yes. Is it an option to ask if you can push your start date at DOJ until October?

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:25 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:52 pm
I am confused about the pay scale for entering HP attorneys.

I began a job in October and was originally told that I would enter as a G-12 owing to my one year of legal employment.

However I now received an email notifying me that I would in fact enter as a G-11 because, with a September 2022 start date, I will not have completed one year of post graduate employment.

Is this really how it works? I miss a full year of employment by literally two weeks. So anyone whose HP start date falls before their previous employment’s state date, even hypothetically by a day, would not receive credit for (nearly) one year of employment?

So many legal jobs start in late September or October. It seems many will be short changed by this policy (15k per year difference). I guess I just can’t believe they would be this strict and exact about what counts as a year.
I know someone who started at OCIJ after a year of experience clerking and they had to essentially haggle back and forth with HR to get their offer amended to reflect the appropriate GS and they did this before accepting the offer. I also know someone in DOL Honors who did not argue after clerking, too, and regretted not fighting for it, because it affects your promotion schedule for the rest of your tenure in government (and he heard others did get it who advocated for themselves).

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:42 am

Welcome to how the federal government handles things. Unfortunately yes, to my understanding, this is how it works. They’re this strict and exact because the idea is to apply the rules the same way to everyone. It may seem nonsensical, but it’s intended to be easily administered (the federal government has a LOT of employees) and fair.

Now based on the post above mine, it’s probably worth advocating for yourself - unlike that poster I haven’t heard of that happening, but I didn’t enter a component with lots of other honors attorneys to talk to about such things. The other option is, if it’s only 2 weeks, push back your start date? They were really flexible about that with me (though again, since I wasn’t going into a program with lots of honors attorneys, it might be tougher if there’s any kind of structured on-boarding in place).

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Re: DOJ Honors Program 2021-2022

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:03 pm

Anyone know what the rates for full-time conversion or exit opportunities are like for the two-year clerkships? Particularly with the administrative offices of EOIR (aka not OCIJ/BIA)?

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