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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:52 am

Anyone hear anything? Good luck to everyone with another anxiety filled week πŸ™ƒ

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am

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Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?
I did not hear this. They told me that interviews are being conducted during the first three weeks of February, that the hiring attorneys will then need about a week to work with HR after the interviews conclude, so offers are expected to go out in early March.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:37 pm

So does that mean no more interview invites for this cycle?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:58 pm

Does anyone who applied before/work there now know if the clerk opening has its own separate vacancies or is it all just grouped together despite it being a different posting on USAJobs?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:34 pm

I am guessing interview requests have all gone out at this point...very curious if anyone recently received an invite to interview?
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?
I did not hear this. They told me that interviews are being conducted during the first three weeks of February, that the hiring attorneys will then need about a week to work with HR after the interviews conclude, so offers are expected to go out in early March.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:10 am

It does seem like this forum is less busy than it has been in past cycles. So the choices are people got interviews and didn't say anything, more requests are going to go out, or next to nobody who browses this forum for selected..

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:32 am

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:34 pm
I am guessing interview requests have all gone out at this point...very curious if anyone recently received an invite to interview?
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?
I did not hear this. They told me that interviews are being conducted during the first three weeks of February, that the hiring attorneys will then need about a week to work with HR after the interviews conclude, so offers are expected to go out in early March.
My assumption is that if they have not all gone out already, they will have by the end of this week.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:32 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:34 pm
I am guessing interview requests have all gone out at this point...very curious if anyone recently received an invite to interview?
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?
I did not hear this. They told me that interviews are being conducted during the first three weeks of February, that the hiring attorneys will then need about a week to work with HR after the interviews conclude, so offers are expected to go out in early March.
My assumption is that if they have not all gone out already, they will have by the end of this week.
If you read this forum closely, it doesn't look like there were waves of interview invitations in the past few cycles. It does sound like fewer invitations went out than usual this round despite a budget that reflects room for 100 new examiners this year. The last time i interviewed, they said 150 people were being interviewed for 50 spots, which turned into 60 hires that cycle then 40 the following. So much for the USPTO's "as many as possible" answer to the how many will be hired question...

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:11 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:32 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:34 pm
I am guessing interview requests have all gone out at this point...very curious if anyone recently received an invite to interview?
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?
I did not hear this. They told me that interviews are being conducted during the first three weeks of February, that the hiring attorneys will then need about a week to work with HR after the interviews conclude, so offers are expected to go out in early March.
My assumption is that if they have not all gone out already, they will have by the end of this week.
If you read this forum closely, it doesn't look like there were waves of interview invitations in the past few cycles. It does sound like fewer invitations went out than usual this round despite a budget that reflects room for 100 new examiners this year. The last time i interviewed, they said 150 people were being interviewed for 50 spots, which turned into 60 hires that cycle then 40 the following. So much for the USPTO's "as many as possible" answer to the how many will be hired question...
I don't think fewer invitations went out than usual. I think those who received an invitation and interviewed went silent so as to not give their "competitors" any advantage. I was interviewed, and I view the lack of information on the amount of people and spots as encouraging. I think they may have gotten comparably fewer applications for more spots and so did not want to share that information.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 4:21 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:11 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:32 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:34 pm
I am guessing interview requests have all gone out at this point...very curious if anyone recently received an invite to interview?
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:33 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 09, 2023 8:26 am
Start date for this class is April 24 - Offers expected to go out in early March
Every time I've interviewed, they have said how many people were being interviewed for x number of spots in the class. Did they do that here?
I did not hear this. They told me that interviews are being conducted during the first three weeks of February, that the hiring attorneys will then need about a week to work with HR after the interviews conclude, so offers are expected to go out in early March.
My assumption is that if they have not all gone out already, they will have by the end of this week.
If you read this forum closely, it doesn't look like there were waves of interview invitations in the past few cycles. It does sound like fewer invitations went out than usual this round despite a budget that reflects room for 100 new examiners this year. The last time i interviewed, they said 150 people were being interviewed for 50 spots, which turned into 60 hires that cycle then 40 the following. So much for the USPTO's "as many as possible" answer to the how many will be hired question...
I don't think fewer invitations went out than usual. I think those who received an invitation and interviewed went silent so as to not give their "competitors" any advantage. I was interviewed, and I view the lack of information on the amount of people and spots as encouraging. I think they may have gotten comparably fewer applications for more spots and so did not want to share that information.
Highly doubtful. Applications for fully remote gov jobs have skyrocketed during the pandemic, and this position always pulls a huge number of applications. See the fedjobs subreddit. Also, I'm not referring to the number of people confirming their interview invitations but to the larger than usual number of those reporting still waiting/no invite (yet).

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:32 pm

So is the general consensus that this cycle is over for interview invites?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:19 pm

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Wed Feb 15, 2023 1:32 pm
So is the general consensus that this cycle is over for interview invites?
As someone who interviewed, my invite came 6 days before my interview. So if the "waves of invites" theory has not been completely disproven, you may still have time (given that next week is the final week of interviews).

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:37 pm

Are you someone that got an invite on Jan 31st then?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

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Are you someone that got an invite on Jan 31st then?
yes

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:26 pm

Has anyone received an interview request on any other date besides January 31?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:48 pm

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Has anyone received an interview request on any other date besides January 31?
I don't think anyone has. I suspect the "waves" of invites was more when people were doing in person interviews so scheduling was a little more difficult than it is now with virtual interviews.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:10 pm

Not to overly speculate but if all the invites went out at once isn't it weird how silent things have been both here and on Reddit? Obviously not everyone who applied posts on either of these platforms but I personally think it's odd that people really only said they got interview requests on Jan 31st for the following week. Maybe I'm just overly hopeful though.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:51 pm

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Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:10 pm
Not to overly speculate but if all the invites went out at once isn't it weird how silent things have been both here and on Reddit? Obviously not everyone who applied posts on either of these platforms but I personally think it's odd that people really only said they got interview requests on Jan 31st for the following week. Maybe I'm just overly hopeful though.
I'm one of the people who got an interview invite on 1/31 and was interviewed the following week. They told me that they were interviewing through February, with offers going out in early March.

I don't recall what they specifically said, but they didn't give details on the number of interviews or open spots, or if more in invites were going out. It's my first time applying, so I don't know if they used any coded language that others would have caught.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:20 am

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:51 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:10 pm
Not to overly speculate but if all the invites went out at once isn't it weird how silent things have been both here and on Reddit? Obviously not everyone who applied posts on either of these platforms but I personally think it's odd that people really only said they got interview requests on Jan 31st for the following week. Maybe I'm just overly hopeful though.
I'm one of the people who got an interview invite on 1/31 and was interviewed the following week. They told me that they were interviewing through February, with offers going out in early March.

I don't recall what they specifically said, but they didn't give details on the number of interviews or open spots, or if more in invites were going out. It's my first time applying, so I don't know if they used any coded language that others would have caught.
They wouldn't have used coded language. Government employers are very limited in what they can say in interviews. (See, e.g., https://www.reddit.com/r/usajobs/commen ... are_button). In my experience these hiring managers don't veer away from a script (which is why they always ask the same set of questions). The only exception was the "bad cop," but that was limited to nasty comments, none of which were coded.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:20 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:51 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:10 pm
Not to overly speculate but if all the invites went out at once isn't it weird how silent things have been both here and on Reddit? Obviously not everyone who applied posts on either of these platforms but I personally think it's odd that people really only said they got interview requests on Jan 31st for the following week. Maybe I'm just overly hopeful though.
I'm one of the people who got an interview invite on 1/31 and was interviewed the following week. They told me that they were interviewing through February, with offers going out in early March.

I don't recall what they specifically said, but they didn't give details on the number of interviews or open spots, or if more in invites were going out. It's my first time applying, so I don't know if they used any coded language that others would have caught.
They wouldn't have used coded language. Government employers are very limited in what they can say in interviews. (See, e.g., https://www.reddit.com/r/usajobs/commen ... are_button). In my experience these hiring managers don't veer away from a script (which is why they always ask the same set of questions). The only exception was the "bad cop," but that was limited to nasty comments, none of which were coded.
Did those who interviewed this cycle really have a "bad cop" experience? I thought the questioning was fairly standard...

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:35 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:20 am
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:51 pm
Anonymous User wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:10 pm
Not to overly speculate but if all the invites went out at once isn't it weird how silent things have been both here and on Reddit? Obviously not everyone who applied posts on either of these platforms but I personally think it's odd that people really only said they got interview requests on Jan 31st for the following week. Maybe I'm just overly hopeful though.
I'm one of the people who got an interview invite on 1/31 and was interviewed the following week. They told me that they were interviewing through February, with offers going out in early March.

I don't recall what they specifically said, but they didn't give details on the number of interviews or open spots, or if more in invites were going out. It's my first time applying, so I don't know if they used any coded language that others would have caught.
They wouldn't have used coded language. Government employers are very limited in what they can say in interviews. (See, e.g., https://www.reddit.com/r/usajobs/commen ... are_button). In my experience these hiring managers don't veer away from a script (which is why they always ask the same set of questions). The only exception was the "bad cop," but that was limited to nasty comments, none of which were coded.
Did those who interviewed this cycle really have a "bad cop" experience? I thought the questioning was fairly standard...
Bad cop was back in the days of in person interviews and was limited to one manager now retired who made it their mission to find the "best" people through a waterboarding interview style. All the other managers in the room just stood by and let this manager mistreat people who wasted time and money traveling to VA in the dead of winter. What did it yield? A register that's still a mess, ungodly delays, people who need to be let go during the probation period for inability to apply TM law, and head-shaking judgments that materialize in SCOTUS cases striking down parts of the Lanham Act. Perhaps current examiners lurking here can confirm/correct why this manager was allowed to go hog-wild.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:15 pm

So it's safe to assume at this point any chances for this cycle are over?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:34 pm

Did anyone apply for the Law Clerk position and get a callback for an interview? I haven't seen much info on this thread about it.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:30 am

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Did anyone apply for the Law Clerk position and get a callback for an interview? I haven't seen much info on this thread about it.
I think candidates for the Law Clerk and Attorney Advisor roles were being interviewed simultaneously. I only assume this because when I entered the virtual "waiting room"" for my interview as an Attorney Advisor, the screen said something like "Trademark Law Clerks and Attorney Advisor Interviews."

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