The Official September 2017 Study Group Forum

[twiix]

Also, we share the same last name.

Hogwash. I think his username is referencing you and your previously unannounced run for presidency in 2020.

[Anon-e-miss]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

[dj9i27]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

the average lsat overall is still what, 151? I don't see thousands of people pulling 180 all the sudden either and i still think 3.8+ are more rare that TLS let's off to be.

[Mikey]

WELP...

today starts my PT schedule.. dreading doing PTs throughout the summer but you gotta do what you gotta do, right...?

ugh

PT52 + 1 experimental today in a bit. not starting 6 section PTs until after maybe 2 or 3 5-sectioners.

[Anon-e-miss]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

the average lsat overall is still what, 151? I don't see thousands of people pulling 180 all the sudden either and i still think 3.8+ are more rare that TLS let's off to be.

It will surely help a small minority of applicants, but yeah I agree. I like the 3 tries rule because unlimited tries indirectly incentivizes sloppiness and advantages those who are willing to pay to take the test 5+ times, potentially at the expense of more prepared or less financially flexible applicants.
Don't think it'll make a big difference for 170+ scorers anyways. Might hurt 155-165 scorers though.

[dj9i27]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

the average lsat overall is still what, 151? I don't see thousands of people pulling 180 all the sudden either and i still think 3.8+ are more rare that TLS let's off to be.

It will surely help a small minority of applicants, but yeah I agree. I like the 3 tries rule because unlimited tries indirectly incentivizes sloppiness and advantages those who are willing to pay to take the test 5+ times, potentially at the expense of more prepared or less financially flexible applicants.
Don't think it'll make a big difference for 170+ scorers anyways. Might hurt 155-165 scorers though.

I think people are going to maybe spam retakes at a higher rate, I knew some people who did that with the GRE. Might actually hurt admissions and the lsat more than anything, some kid taking this 7 times in 2 years and caps at a 163 has a shitloads of 14/5 in there bogging down the average


Full ride for me btw, keep dropping medians

[USayinBoalt]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Here's an update

They are getting rid of the December test next year and adding a November and a March test

http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source ... ateweb.pdf

[Anon-e-miss]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

the average lsat overall is still what, 151? I don't see thousands of people pulling 180 all the sudden either and i still think 3.8+ are more rare that TLS let's off to be.

It will surely help a small minority of applicants, but yeah I agree. I like the 3 tries rule because unlimited tries indirectly incentivizes sloppiness and advantages those who are willing to pay to take the test 5+ times, potentially at the expense of more prepared or less financially flexible applicants.
Don't think it'll make a big difference for 170+ scorers anyways. Might hurt 155-165 scorers though.

I think people are going to maybe spam retakes at a higher rate, I knew some people who did that with the GRE. Might actually hurt admissions and the lsat more than anything, some kid taking this 7 times in 2 years and caps at a 163 has a shitloads of 14/5 in there bogging down the average


Full ride for me btw, keep dropping medians

Not sure that this will benefit any of us though even with potentially high LSAT scores

[dj9i27]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

the average lsat overall is still what, 151? I don't see thousands of people pulling 180 all the sudden either and i still think 3.8+ are more rare that TLS let's off to be.

It will surely help a small minority of applicants, but yeah I agree. I like the 3 tries rule because unlimited tries indirectly incentivizes sloppiness and advantages those who are willing to pay to take the test 5+ times, potentially at the expense of more prepared or less financially flexible applicants.
Don't think it'll make a big difference for 170+ scorers anyways. Might hurt 155-165 scorers though.

I think people are going to maybe spam retakes at a higher rate, I knew some people who did that with the GRE. Might actually hurt admissions and the lsat more than anything, some kid taking this 7 times in 2 years and caps at a 163 has a shitloads of 14/5 in there bogging down the average


Full ride for me btw, keep dropping medians

Not sure that this will benefit any of us though even with potentially high LSAT scores

doubt it, but the 30-60 schools will freak out if the 16X mark drops any more.

[Mikey]

jfc that sucked

[Pozzo]

WELP...

today starts my PT schedule.. dreading doing PTs throughout the summer but you gotta do what you gotta do, right...?

ugh

PT52 + 1 experimental today in a bit. not starting 6 section PTs until after maybe 2 or 3 5-sectioners.

You got this, buddy!

[Mikey]

WELP...

today starts my PT schedule.. dreading doing PTs throughout the summer but you gotta do what you gotta do, right...?

ugh

PT52 + 1 experimental today in a bit. not starting 6 section PTs until after maybe 2 or 3 5-sectioners.

You got this, buddy!

nah, I bombed it. or at least I feel like I did

[chewinggum]

I wish no one would apply to CN this cycle so they're forced to take me.

[presidentspivey]

Have been hitting games hard this week. Done with PS LG and the LG sections of the Trainer. Mercilessly bored of games. I'm quite accurate for this stage of prep but am very slow. Seems like that should be easy to take care of with lots of drilling. Planning on moving to Manny LR today/tomorrow, of which I've done about a third. Will save Manny RC for last. After that, it'll be drilling, PT'ing, and reviewing. Cautiously optimistic about my progress.

[Rupert Pupkin]

WELP...

today starts my PT schedule.. dreading doing PTs throughout the summer but you gotta do what you gotta do, right...?

ugh

PT52 + 1 experimental today in a bit. not starting 6 section PTs until after maybe 2 or 3 5-sectioners.

You got this, buddy!

Time to CRUSH it, Mikey!

[Anon-e-miss]

Spivey with the breaking news, fam

Saw this coming a mile away. Glad I'm applying this coming cycle before the unknowns (namely unlimited test takes, more test times, and the GRE explosion) start really impacting admissions.

I think it will take at least 2 years. Most people aren't even aware of this change yet. I still know people who think schools average LSATs

the average lsat overall is still what, 151? I don't see thousands of people pulling 180 all the sudden either and i still think 3.8+ are more rare that TLS let's off to be.

I think people are going to maybe spam retakes at a higher rate, I knew some people who did that with the GRE. Might actually hurt admissions and the lsat more than anything, some kid taking this 7 times in 2 years and caps at a 163 has a shitloads of 14/5 in there bogging down the average


Full ride for me btw, keep dropping medians

Not sure that this will benefit any of us though even with potentially high LSAT scores

doubt it, but the 30-60 schools will freak out if the 16X mark drops any more.

I would prefer for DCN to freak out and give me a full ride

[dj9i27]

I would prefer for DCN to freak out and give me a full ride

Only 500 are allowed to apply a year, that way they have to give us money!

[Anon-e-miss]

I would prefer for DCN to freak out and give me a full ride

Only 500 are allowed to apply a year, that way they have to give us money!

Do you think PI gunner ambition disincentives schools from giving big $$$ since the student can just ride PSLF/LRAP and then (unless you are YHSC) the feds will foot most of the bill? Or am I neurotic?

[Anon-e-miss]

I wish no one would apply to CN this cycle so they're forced to take me.

Are you applying to the first C in CCN?

[chewinggum]

I wish no one would apply to CN this cycle so they're forced to take me.

Are you applying to the first C in CCN?

Yea, but mostly because why not

[dj9i27]

I would prefer for DCN to freak out and give me a full ride

Only 500 are allowed to apply a year, that way they have to give us money!

Do you think PI gunner ambition disincentives schools from giving big $$$ since the student can just ride PSLF/LRAP and then (unless you are YHSC) the feds will foot most of the bill? Or am I neurotic?

if your PI or bust, NYU has scholarships of your choosing and CLS has something, it starts with R. Both are raised to get than a Hammy or Vanderbilt so I think if you sell your PS as "I don't want corporate under any circumstance " they'll bite

[Alexandros]

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[chewinggum]

In case anyone needs entertainment for the next 54 minutes of the work day:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... &start=150

[dj9i27]

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[Anon-e-miss]

I would prefer for DCN to freak out and give me a full ride

Only 500 are allowed to apply a year, that way they have to give us money!

Do you think PI gunner ambition disincentives schools from giving big $$$ since the student can just ride PSLF/LRAP and then (unless you are YHSC) the feds will foot most of the bill? Or am I neurotic?

if your PI or bust, NYU has scholarships of your choosing and CLS has something, it starts with R. Both are raised to get than a Hammy or Vanderbilt so I think if you sell your PS as "I don't want corporate under any circumstance " they'll bite

+1
also, no. they know LRAP isn't the same as no debt.

and our great administration greatly throttled the LRAP program!
Good luck with that 500g debt while making <100g.
<3
Uncle Donnie

If PSLF is going to be killed, I'd rather it be before I apply to lawl school so that NYU and other T14 can bring back non-IBR, amortizing, fully-endowed LRAPs and relieve me of the uncertainty.

That being said, it would be easier if Feds guaranteed PSLF for the long haul. The danger is in the uncertainty